derExperte
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http://store.steampowered.com/streaming/
And works with non-Steam games too.
Also take a look at Steam's most-played games while you're there, lots of them are exclusives and run fine on a low-budget PC. Not everyone cares for Bb.
PS4 performance on a ~£300 PC. Can it be done? (spoiler: yes)
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http://store.steampowered.com/streaming/
And works with non-Steam games too.
Also take a look at Steam's most-played games while you're there, lots of them are exclusives and run fine on a low-budget PC. Not everyone cares for Bb.
Tomeru
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Its also not hard to see that articles like this have no place in gaming communities. On paper it looks fine, in real life its not what it says.
I can appreciate the goal of this article, but itspoint is still moot for gamers. Because pcs like this are not fit for gaming, regardless of what some tests that happen on a day old pc says. I know, I also own a weak pc (weak for a pc) like this. It can never match the performance of a console. It can never match a console experience. It is a pc small business gets for work. Its a pc a gamer buys before he learns what gaming pcs are really like.
These kinds of articles are never right, no matter how many times they are published.
uncleniccius
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These comparisons are somewhat meaningless but also interesting I guess.
I went with all three consoles over a PC because I like exclusives (especially Nintendo's) and because when I go to university it'll be much more convenient.
I would love a PC though... damn finances not being able to support three consoles and a PC
I went with all three consoles over a PC because I like exclusives (especially Nintendo's) and because when I go to university it'll be much more convenient.
I would love a PC though... damn finances not being able to support three consoles and a PC
Tidus_Great
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will it hold up as well as a ps4 for 6-8 more years though?
fact is i bought a ps4 in 2013 for 400 dollars.
no way a 400 dollar PC from 2013 will run games as well as ps4 in th future.
fact is i bought a ps4 in 2013 for 400 dollars.
no way a 400 dollar PC from 2013 will run games as well as ps4 in th future.
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Yeah I left my gaming PC at home and got a PS4 when I moved out for grad school. Though I'm not sure taking 3 consoles will be very convenientThese comparisons are somewhat meaningless but also interesting I guess.
I went with all three consoles over a PC because I like exclusives (especially Nintendo's) and because when I go to university it'll be much more convenient.
I would love a PC though... damn finances not being able to support three consoles and a PC
I don't see a OS or a bluray player in that build.
JimmyRustler
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Yeah, this. PC always needs more powerful hardware to even pull the same performance like the consoles.
Sorry but this is dumb. The best option is always either you buy a PS4 or built a beastly PC.
Have they actually test all the game? not every game will be optimise for entry level pc - Where you cant brute force the problem.
There is no satisfaction for this kind of machine might as well save the trouble and buy a console.
I tried once - instead of feeling happy with the perfomance you wanted to upgrade it for more. Then what's the point? You built it in the first place to save money you know?
So the choice either PS4 for it's price with decent performance or Best looking performance on better PC (definitely not this kind)
Have they actually test all the game? not every game will be optimise for entry level pc - Where you cant brute force the problem.
There is no satisfaction for this kind of machine might as well save the trouble and buy a console.
I tried once - instead of feeling happy with the perfomance you wanted to upgrade it for more. Then what's the point? You built it in the first place to save money you know?
So the choice either PS4 for it's price with decent performance or Best looking performance on better PC (definitely not this kind)
Atraveller
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PC doesn't need BD players to run games.
derExperte
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400W is more than enough to power a much stronger CPU and even a GTX970-class GPU on top, despite what many believe PCs have become pretty energy-efficient as long as you're not doing high-end. Granted, this isn't top quality stuff so I wouldn't want to push it that far but I don't forsee any problems with the build they chose.
The main problem it's that. To me a bluray player it's a fundamental part on a machine. Of course you can have a PC comparable to a ps4 at a comparable price point but it's a waste of money, because lack completely of other interesting hardware components and with the risk to not handle some multiplat. But if the question it's just to have a comparable hardware well, you can. But I don't think it's a good invest.
uncleniccius
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Yeah I left my gaming PC at home and got a PS4 when I moved out for grad school. Though I'm not sure taking 3 consoles will be very convenient
Yeah, I'm definitely not taking all of them.
I'll probably take my WiiU +Smash +GC controllers and maybe my PS4, some of my friends are planning on taking their huge PC towers which will not be great if they have to come back by train.
Everyone already knows the PS4 is stronger than the Xbox One, so if the article already concluded that their PC is on par with a PS4 there's no need to mention the Xbox One at all since that'd just be stating the obvious.
Darkroronoa
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Its really great seeing pc hardware being so cheap. Not only you can performance match a console at about the same price (sure might need to spent just a bit more) but also you can upgrade down in 3-4 years with the money you will save from cheaper games (if you buy lots of games of course, if you buy2 games per year you wont save enough) and no online subscription and enjoy much better performance .
For me who needs a PC anyway for internet etc upgrading my pc (saves a bit of money there and i was able to do it in a span of a year) was a no brainer. If i had to buy a console i should have to stay with my pentium d805 with the 1gb of ram and suffer :/
Now i only want a steam link and i am set for my desk and my tv
Also that alienware is so sexy!
For me who needs a PC anyway for internet etc upgrading my pc (saves a bit of money there and i was able to do it in a span of a year) was a no brainer. If i had to buy a console i should have to stay with my pentium d805 with the 1gb of ram and suffer :/
Now i only want a steam link and i am set for my desk and my tv
Also that alienware is so sexy!
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Bloodborne is a great game, I enjoy it. But any day of the year I will take PC exclusives over it.
Atraveller
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The article in the OP just proved it's not always the case.
The PS4 probably draws more under load than the 750 ti does, considering it uses a modified 7870. Over twice as much as the desktop equivalent, actually.
I knew it's a modified 7850.
FunkyDealer
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Why would you though? If you're gonna spend on that budget, you're better off with a console thanks to exclusives and ease of use.
If you want a gaming PC, you really should put more money into it. You don't want to match consoles, you'd want to beat them.
The only reason I can think of is if you're starved for cash and all your friends are PC gamers.
If you want a gaming PC, you really should put more money into it. You don't want to match consoles, you'd want to beat them.
The only reason I can think of is if you're starved for cash and all your friends are PC gamers.
He had this to say about that
Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. Run beta software? Beta OS is not sound advice and what happens when the preview ends? Secondly does he mind pointing out what "relatively cheap" license would be legal for this personal build at the very least? I'm not even asking for the price which he's skirted around.
Why always ignoring PC exclusives? Do you know they exist, right?
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You can't get a completely legal version of Windows 7 on reddit for $15.
Maybe you prefer 60fps at lower settings?
Maybe you like to emulate your old consoles?
Maybe you want to play the vast amount of older games PC offers?
Streaming PC/emulated games to other rooms of the house?
Free online?
Obviously you may not want any of that, and that's ok.
Darkroronoa
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About the console exclusives, sure consoles have exclusives, but guys... pc has lots of exclusives too (more actually)..
It might be different genres but why people put pc exclusives in a "lower level", because they are not blockbuster AAA exclusives?
COA?
Mendax
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pointless; graphics output might be similar but a ps4 will always be 5x faster in booting up, starting games, minimizing games etc. that alones makes it more useful for gaming than even an $800 pc imo.
yeah but there are even less (per year) than there are xbox exclusives. so negligible^2...
yeah but there are even less (per year) than there are xbox exclusives. so negligible^2...
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Are you asking if they're authentic? Yes, they are. They're digital license codes.
People will fall for this, but it was funny.
It's the god honest truth,
If you have money, a little bit of time - you can build a PC which largely outperforms consoles on a budget. In the end Steam an no online fees will end up saving you some dough long term.
People either want particular exclusives, AAA multiplats(which usually are not PC optimized) or don't have the time to watch a couple of YouTube tutorials on how to build their own rig.
In terms of patching and running the correct environment - we have come a long way. PC gaming is much more friendlier place right now and is no where near as time consuming to get operation than it was a decade ago.
The other thing I can see happening is that unless Valve publishes something themselves - building a high end rig this year ensures you won't have to upgrade in the next few years. Simply put the current gen consoles aren't going to push visuals much more than what we are going to see in the next few years. Studios will just get better at optimizing their games on consoles and hopefully more studios will provide mode options for PC ensuring customers are able to find fixes for poorly optimized games.
If you have money, a little bit of time - you can build a PC which largely outperforms consoles on a budget. In the end Steam an no online fees will end up saving you some dough long term.
People either want particular exclusives, AAA multiplats(which usually are not PC optimized) or don't have the time to watch a couple of YouTube tutorials on how to build their own rig.
In terms of patching and running the correct environment - we have come a long way. PC gaming is much more friendlier place right now and is no where near as time consuming to get operation than it was a decade ago.
The other thing I can see happening is that unless Valve publishes something themselves - building a high end rig this year ensures you won't have to upgrade in the next few years. Simply put the current gen consoles aren't going to push visuals much more than what we are going to see in the next few years. Studios will just get better at optimizing their games on consoles and hopefully more studios will provide mode options for PC ensuring customers are able to find fixes for poorly optimized games.
Atraveller
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On a 800-dollar-PC you can install a SSD.
hemtae
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Not sure if this is a joke post but the PC has the most exclusives. They are just not the AAA marketing budget type of games.
No, I'm asking if it's the type of license where somebody salvages a license code from a COA sticker on an old PC and sells it. I suspect it is.
Ok how many PC passionate do you know who want a PC like a ps4? In all honesty. There is no reason to build such PC maybe just for simple curiosity.That's what he tried to say.
Did you ever hear of SSD harddrives? PS4 booting up faster than a PC, that's gotta be a joke.
Also, less PC exclusives than Xbox exclusives? Wrong again. Dead wrong.
Because only consoles have exclusives ... oh dear this thread. As someone else said unbvelieveable how insecure some people act.
Does it really matter? (spoiler: no)
People who enjoy playing on a console will make their case for it and those who enjoy playing on PC will make their case. Along the way, people from both groups will end up arguing the same arguments that have been done numerous times before.
If you could have PS4 performance on a PC for $100 more or $100 less, it wouldn't matter. Most aren't going to move away from their preferred gaming method. I think that's proven to be true by how often we still have the discussion of performance/price between the two types of systems.
Honestly, these threads just feel like breeding grounds for fanboyism. There are many points/arguments I've seen already that are just ridiculous and forcing myself not to get involved in, because it's clear the person making them isn't thinking clearly.
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My brother and two best friends have PCs specced similarly to the PS4, if not a bit weaker. They built them on a budget to play PC exclusives and multiplats.
The market for a budget PC is far bigger than you assume, not speaking solely out of my anecdotal evidence.
What? People reselling the keys they get from their Universities isn't completely legal. You aren't licenced to use it.
More Fun To Compute
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PC will never have blast processing or heavy rain play on PC at your own risk.
I don't think that's the point though. There is a big misconception that a console experience cannot be achieved on PC without spending a lot of extra money, and as the contributors of this thread have proved, you can get an even richer experience on PC with similar money.
Now you have to be a PC passionate to play PC games?
Its really great seeing pc hardware being so cheap. Not only you can performance match a console at about the same price (sure might need to spent just a bit more) but also you can upgrade down in 3-4 years with the money you will save from cheaper games (if you buy lots of games of course, if you buy2 games per year you wont save enough) and no online subscription and enjoy much better performance .
For me who needs a PC anyway for internet etc upgrading my pc (saves a bit of money there and i was able to do it in a span of a year) was a no brainer. If i had to buy a console i should have to stay with my pentium d805 with the 1gb of ram and suffer :/
Now i only want a steam link and i am set for my desk and my tv
Also that alienware is so sexy!
see my post
sure if you're buying a new PC. But with this kind of built you really expect it to last for 3-4 years?
Mendax
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booting windows, even with a SSD, is still slower than booting a ps4. just because its windows and windows is slow.
Very apt username
latin is pro
yes in total, but what i oringally meant to say is there are fewer exclusives releasing than there are xbox exclusives (per year or per gen w/e). unless we count shovelware and indies but those never seem to count when looking at the ps4 and its library.....
yes ,unless you are a casual dota, lol or wow player
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