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It's almost like you've had experience playing the game already.
ISee
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Congratz. I bet it does
They are very good. You can even stagger some bosses with them and then do good damage.
WhiskerFrisker
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Goodness gracious, you guys are still talking about vials? Some people like it, others don't so there is no point arguing over it. As Yoshi aptly put it, the vial system works in accordance to Bloodborne and the regain mechanic.
WhiskerFrisker
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I'm doing that now and I use runes that you find in depth 5 dungeons. Stack runes that give 19.5-21% damage increase.
What the hell are you talking about?
It is mindless work yes, but so is running through the level after dying to the boss, it's there to punish you for failing, you don't want to die because you might lose your echoes, you're gonna have to run back to the boss, & you're gonna run out of blood vials if you die to the boss a million times in a row
you still won't, since the path to the boss always contain enemies that hold ~10 blood vials
The game is tense for a reason, if you fail, there is punishment, if you have infinite healing items, the game won't be tense anymore, the least tense situation is if you spent all your currency, opened the shortcut, & then went to fight the boss, in that particular situation there won't be any tension at all, since you have nothing to lose if you die to the boss anyway.
If you have nothing to lose = no tension, with infinite blood vials, the tension is gone, since nobody fights a boss without going back & leveling up first anyway.
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Chalice+Dungeon
You can see the requirements there. As for the route, you pretty much just have to do the non-root chalices. You'll find/get the next chalice as you clear them.
You can click the materials on that page to see if you have them already, or if you can find them in the open world.
The one item I missed, and had to play through nearly the whole NG+ game to get was the
Living String
Mother Brain
Mensis' Nightmare
That's some good advice, too.
toastyToast
Member
You'll need the Living String which you get from
the brain in Nightmare of Mensis
What you can do which I felt simplified things is do upto the end of the defiled dungeon in NG then head into NG+ and quickly get your ass to the
Lecture Building
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
How does this rank in terms of difficulty against the other souls games?
Cos I pissed through demons and dark 1 but getting slapped up here. Still on the first level
EDIT: I'm just really struggling with no shield and have to get used to dodging more
Cos I pissed through demons and dark 1 but getting slapped up here. Still on the first level
EDIT: I'm just really struggling with no shield and have to get used to dodging more
Dark Souls 1/2 had infinite healing items and it was tense as fuck. Considering how easy it is to farm Blood Vials I don't feel tension from using them up, just hassle that I have to go run through central Yarhnam again.
WhiskerFrisker
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How could I get to
Ebrietas
Some think it's the easiest, some think it's just as hard, and some think it's hardee. There is no one answer or even a general consensus.
Never felt any tension because of blood vials, just annoyance.
So, I'm new to the series and I've never experienced the PVP before. Bell ringing woman appeared as soon as I entered the Nightmare Frontier, so this was my forced introduction.
Have to say, despite shivering right now from the fear of being invaded, it was nice. Guy bowed before we fought, bowed after he killed me.
Have to say, despite shivering right now from the fear of being invaded, it was nice. Guy bowed before we fought, bowed after he killed me.
Thanks, guys! Luckily I've done all those late game shenanigans and gotten the Living String already. Much appreciated.
GwyndolinCinder
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The most incredible music is up that way
toastyToast
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Outside of a glitch which I don't know about you'll need to get to
post Rom Unseen Village
foxdvd
Member
Everything you need can be had in the chalice dungeons as you play...the one exception is make sure you get the 2 Red Jellies in the lecture hall..You need 4, and finding two more in the chalice is hard enough as it is.
Reposting:
Hey guys, I'm (probably) finishing up my first play through of the game and have no idea about cords and haven't met some of the NPCs I've seen mentioned here.
Read that I need three endings for the Platinum - am I fucked if I play through the game again trying to get a different ending without referring to a walkthrough? I want to be on the right path but would prefer if it wasn't blatantly told to me, if you get where I'm coming from.
Hey guys, I'm (probably) finishing up my first play through of the game and have no idea about cords and haven't met some of the NPCs I've seen mentioned here.
Read that I need three endings for the Platinum - am I fucked if I play through the game again trying to get a different ending without referring to a walkthrough? I want to be on the right path but would prefer if it wasn't blatantly told to me, if you get where I'm coming from.
Looking for some pointers without spoilers!
Basically I'm a little confused with the geography in Yarnham and what I'm supposed to be chasing.
spoiler tagged just in case
Thank you!
And fuck me, I love this game.
Basically I'm a little confused with the geography in Yarnham and what I'm supposed to be chasing.
spoiler tagged just in case
I'm probably just midway through the game, maybe less. I've beaten : Cleric Beast, Father G., Blood Starved Beast, *girl-that-turns-to-beast*, The Witches.
I have been kidnaped and taken into the Unseen city. I've seen a boss there ( elecrtic beast) but he just straight up kicked my ass 2 or 3 times, one of them was a 1 shot.
I know that I should probably start carving my way through the Unseen city. But on the other head I feel like I've missed something.
The game seems to me, since the beggining, is pointing me to the Healing Church, which I assume is the tower with the round glass that we can see from almost everywhere on the city.
This seems to be right above the place where I killed the *girl-that-turns-to-beast* - I don't remember her name but I remember it being a reference to her being a member of the church.
The whole place around Oedon chapel seems to be referred to as "Cathedral Ward" - I'm also assuming that the cathedral = church.
I remember something or someone mentioning that I need a "password" to enter the Church. However, the door that has a man asking me for a password doesn't seem to be anywhere near the church. I also remember being told that the scholars of Bygreraretn (can't spell it
) hold the password, and that the "school" is now deep within "tangled woods". The only tangled woods I've found is in the place where I fought the Witches, and that was basically a dead end that just led me to being able to use Runes.
On the other hand, there were some notes near the password door that were pointing me to the Unseen Village.
The guy in the wheelchair in The Hunters Dream also pointed me to the top of "Oedon Chapel". I took an elevator up, fought my to the top only to once again come to a dead end ( locked door at the top ). It also didn't feel like it was actually the top of the chappel as I crossed a bridge to get there, and the place was called " **** workshop".
I'm basically confused as to where exactly is the Church, if the password is indeed for the church, if that is indeed my "main objective", and why hasn't anyone in the game mentioned the Unseen City yet. It almost feels like an optional area since I only got there because I was captured.
Am I missing something? Is the Unseen Village the place where I need to go now?
No spoilers please, I just want some clarification and pointers but without giving to much away!
I have been kidnaped and taken into the Unseen city. I've seen a boss there ( elecrtic beast) but he just straight up kicked my ass 2 or 3 times, one of them was a 1 shot.
I know that I should probably start carving my way through the Unseen city. But on the other head I feel like I've missed something.
The game seems to me, since the beggining, is pointing me to the Healing Church, which I assume is the tower with the round glass that we can see from almost everywhere on the city.
This seems to be right above the place where I killed the *girl-that-turns-to-beast* - I don't remember her name but I remember it being a reference to her being a member of the church.
The whole place around Oedon chapel seems to be referred to as "Cathedral Ward" - I'm also assuming that the cathedral = church.
I remember something or someone mentioning that I need a "password" to enter the Church. However, the door that has a man asking me for a password doesn't seem to be anywhere near the church. I also remember being told that the scholars of Bygreraretn (can't spell it
) hold the password, and that the "school" is now deep within "tangled woods". The only tangled woods I've found is in the place where I fought the Witches, and that was basically a dead end that just led me to being able to use Runes.On the other hand, there were some notes near the password door that were pointing me to the Unseen Village.
The guy in the wheelchair in The Hunters Dream also pointed me to the top of "Oedon Chapel". I took an elevator up, fought my to the top only to once again come to a dead end ( locked door at the top ). It also didn't feel like it was actually the top of the chappel as I crossed a bridge to get there, and the place was called " **** workshop".
I'm basically confused as to where exactly is the Church, if the password is indeed for the church, if that is indeed my "main objective", and why hasn't anyone in the game mentioned the Unseen City yet. It almost feels like an optional area since I only got there because I was captured.
Am I missing something? Is the Unseen Village the place where I need to go now?
No spoilers please, I just want some clarification and pointers but without giving to much away!
Thank you!
And fuck me, I love this game.
The tension is when you're low on blood vials & you know that you have this one last chance to win or you're gonna have to do something unpleasant, it's similar to how when you're running back to your souls/echoes, you know that if you die again without retrieving them you lose all the currency you've made.
I didn't say Dark Souls wasn't tense, I described a particular situation, if you level up right before fighting a boss, there's no tension because you don't have anything to lose, there's still tension throughout the entire level because you're carrying souls with you.
Would you say it's the same feeling when you lose 50k echoes?
Chaos2Frozen
Member
It may not be too late, one of the cords is on the critical path so you'll get it anyway, the other is in an optional area which you can still access.
Only two are directly related to npcs, both of them are women.
You only need 3 to get the ending.
ISee
Member
Good question... with or without DLC areas, optinal areas and bosses?
It also depends wich one you've played first, i think. I had problems with DeS but after the 'training' in DeS and DaS 1 I had nearly no problems in DaS 2 but I have to admit that the DLC areas were harder then anything inside the original game..
Bloodborne was in between till i reached certain chalice bosses and now the game just keep on handing my own ass to me... but those are optional areas...
You said "if you have infinite healing items, the game won't be tense anymore", which is exactly what Dark Souls is, no?
We're going to have to disagree on this. Like the other guy said, I'm not tense because I know I'll have to farm blood vials again. I'm tense because there is so much at stake - the echoes I collected, a harrowing trudge back to the boss, my progress in the game curtailed.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I think I just got to the point where the game clicked with me and I'm really starting to enjoy it and get the hang of it, something that didn't happen with Demon's Souls as I didn't give it the time it needed.
I'm an Arachnophobic and I just got to Byrgenwerth, so something tells me I'm about to stop enjoying it again.
I'm an Arachnophobic and I just got to Byrgenwerth, so something tells me I'm about to stop enjoying it again.
It's kind of hard to tell you without telling you. As for a different ending, you don't need the cords to get two of them, they're only required for the third "good" ending. The first two endings are based on what your
reply
Gerhman
You can get 2 of the cords at any point. The final two, which you only need one of, are the ones you can screw up.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
I see. Now that I remember, I always found the earlier parts most difficult. After that they were a breeze
Thanks, there are more than 3 then? Is there anything in the game hinting me to this?
Thanks!
milkham
Member
Looking for some pointers without spoilers!
Basically I'm a little confused with the geography in Yarnham and what I'm supposed to be chasing.
spoiler tagged just in case
I'm probably just midway through the game, maybe less. I've beaten : Cleric Beast, Father G., Blood Starved Beast, *girl-that-turns-to-beast*, The Witches.
I have been kidnaped and taken into the Unseen city. I've seen a boss there ( elecrtic beast) but he just straight up kicked my ass 2 or 3 times, one of them was a 1 shot.
I know that I should probably start carving my way through the Unseen city. But on the other head I feel like I've missed something.
The game seems to me, since the beggining, is pointing me to the Healing Church, which I assume is the tower with the round glass that we can see from almost everywhere on the city.
This seems to be right above the place where I killed the *girl-that-turns-to-beast* - I don't remember her name but I remember it being a reference to her being a member of the church.
The whole place around Oedon chapel seems to be referred to as "Cathedral Ward" - I'm also assuming that the cathedral = church.
I remember something or someone mentioning that I need a "password" to enter the Church. However, the door that has a man asking me for a password doesn't seem to be anywhere near the church. I also remember being told that the scholars of Bygreraretn (can't spell it
On the other hand, there were some notes near the password door that were pointing me to the Unseen Village.
The guy in the wheelchair in The Hunters Dream also pointed me to the top of "Oedon Chapel". I took an elevator up, fought my to the top only to once again come to a dead end ( locked door at the top ). It also didn't feel like it was actually the top of the chappel as I crossed a bridge to get there, and the place was called " **** workshop".
I'm basically confused as to where exactly is the Church, if the password is indeed for the church, if that is indeed my "main objective", and why hasn't anyone in the game mentioned the Unseen City yet. It almost feels like an optional area since I only got there because I was captured.
Am I missing something? Is the Unseen Village the place where I need to go now?
No spoilers please, I just want some clarification and pointers but without giving to much away!
Thank you!
And fuck me, I love this game.
The girl that turns into a beast i think you're referring to is V
icar Amelia
altar with that giant skull in the middle
Forbidden Woods
Hey guys, I'm kinda lost. Currently I'm lvl. 59 and the only place I haven't explored yet (that I have found) is the n
. The most recent bosses I've killed are R
, The O
, and A
. Is there someplace I'm supposed to go first? Right now, the s
ightmare of Mensis
OM
new Reborn
mygdala
piders are just swarming me and killing me before I can get more than one or two attacks off.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
There are 4 cords in total.
As for hints... Yeah actually, but it's sort of vague that's why it's a secret ending.
Btw there are 3 endings, you only need the cords for the last one.
toastyToast
Member
Uploaded the Y
fight coz I'm feeling myself over the plat.
Fight is pretty damn fun. The visceral attacks are beyond fucked up though lol
harnam
Fight is pretty damn fun. The visceral attacks are beyond fucked up though lol
milkham
Member
if you head off to the right as soon as you enter the spider chamber, you'll go up a set of stairs leading to a bridge platform thing that goes across the spiders (bell maiden is also there). you can throw pebbles or shoot them to activate one or two at a time so you don't get swarmed. after the little ones are dead you can just run to the next room since the big momma spider is too big to follow if you wish.
if you haven't explored the upper cathedral yet you might want to go check it out. couple more bosses to fight there but they're optional.
if you haven't explored the upper cathedral yet you might want to go check it out. couple more bosses to fight there but they're optional.
I have never at any point cared about losing souls/blood tbh. I don't feel like vial grinding is a punishment, either. To me, it's just to pad the game length since it's a bit shorter than its predecessors. If they really wanted to challenge people they would limit vials to 5, 10 at most, so people wouldn't tank their way through bosses so easily and learn the bosses properly.
There are other, optional, areas to explore. You might be slightly under-leveled for that area. But, that is the right direction.
Assuming you haven't done them already, there is;
Cainhurst
Upper Cathedral
As for the spiders, you can pull them down one at a time by shooting them as they're hanging.
There's nothing at stake if you leveled up after unlocking the shortcut that makes the run back to the boss take 30 seconds. Which is why the new Blood Vials system is great. There is a lot at stake throughout the level, but certainly not when facing the boss.
I hope Miyazaki doesn't use a system similar to the estus in his next new up, it's cool in Dark Souls 3 since it's part of the lore & all, but I prefer finite resources, you may feel annoyed if you die to the boss a lot & then having to farm for blood vials, but I feel tension because I know this is my last chance at facing him before suffering the consequences of repeated failure.
Well, I'm going to shelve the Chalice Dungeons for another day and just finish the game. They're an interesting challenge, but are a little tedious and really above my skill level. I can't get passed R
and I can barely dent him, I can't even imagine what the others bosses are like.
The main story content itself is what makes the game for me and it's flawless from beginning to end.
Maybe one day, when I grow a third testicle I can return to the Chalice dungeons.
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The main story content itself is what makes the game for me and it's flawless from beginning to end.
Maybe one day, when I grow a third testicle I can return to the Chalice dungeons.
What's the difference between the two?
I know "git gud" is a terrible response, & I hope you don't take offense to that, but it's simply that, if you're not good enough to beat the boss in 5-10 tries, then you need a break.
The last thing I want to do is farm yharnam bridge for blood vials ad nauseum. All sarcasm from my previous post aside, blood vials are real easy drops at the beginning to the middle of the game. Later they don't seem to drop as much or as easily. The bosses also get tougher some of them having multiple one shot kills that unless you read about it before hand or you knew it was coming, you are probably going to die.
You couple this with the multiple load times you see going back to hunters dream then going back to yharnam then going back to hunters dream again, it equals boredom not tension. Yes I wish I could one shot kill every boss in this game and brag about it on here, but the reality is that for me not having estus flasks means that I spend a fuckton of time farming like an MMO instead of playing the game. It's not a deal breaker, in fact I'm near the platinum trophy for the game, but it's needlessly annoying and the defense for it always seems to be: I don't have a problem with it because I'm a better player, rather than actually justifying why it adds anything to the game.
DeadManWalking
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Hes an optional boss. Did you equip the crown?
toastyToast
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