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Marvel's Daredevil |OT| Legally Blind *spoilers for all of S1*

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I totally understand what you mean, but I think
that's exactly what made his death so powerful. Ms. Cardenas dying was sad, but Ben dying was tragic, because he had so much left to contribute. The fact that he was so obviously going to do so much is what makes his death so damn good.

Still stupid. Going for tragedy points at the cost of story.
 
Still pissed that the dummies at Netflix spoiled the costume, but whatcha gonna do. I like the black suit better anyway. :P

I noticed that. I don't usually lose my shit over stuff like that, but it was a pissy move by whoever made that decision.
 
Episode 8 may be my favourite yet. D'Onofrio proving again what a great bit of casting he was.
Really felt quite sorry for Fisk - what a horrible dad. Unfortunately he's ended up turning into something as bad, if not worse.
 
Finished them all this weekend. HOLY SHIT one of the coolest superhero shows ever.

Especially D'onofrio's performance, I love that guy ever since Men in Black and FMJ.
 
You did it Marvel/Netflix. You got my girl to actually like anything superhero. I played her the first episode last night and she was captivated and winced quite a bit lol.

I'm up to episode 10 myself. Show is soooooo good! Gonna give brief thoughts on each episode when I'm done, hopefully by tonight.
 
Finished them all this weekend. HOLY SHIT one of the coolest superhero shows ever.

Especially D'onofrio's performance, I love that guy ever since Men in Black and FMJ.

Yeah, at first it seemed like he was hamming it up BAD. Like he was thinking, oh this is how a evil bad guy talks. It was strange. Then after each episode of them showing The Kingpin's backstory it started to make more sense. I could finally see the thought behind his performance. He's character is just socially awkward, hates being in the public spot light. The weird accent is him trying to hide his born NYC accent, while also trying to project strength to the people around him, which he is also afraid of since he seems to constantly be walking on a tightrope to just keep it together.
 
Watched Episode 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 today.

Woah at the
fight against Nobu. That was some real brutal shit and you could feel every hit Matt took. So it's safe to assume it was not a ninja from The Hand?
And hell yea, I just love Karen Page, and yeah, she
did a dick move but it wasn't really as bad as I had come to expect
from someone else mentioning it in here. And
BAM, she shot James Wesley, redeemed!
.

I really can't wait to see the
red suit in action
, as it looks goofy on still images. He looks like a raccoon.
 
Watched Episode 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 today.

Woah at the
fight against Nobu. That was some real brutal shit and you could feel every hit Matt took. So it's safe to assume it was not a ninja from The Hand?
And hell yea, I just love Karen Page, and yeah, she
did a dick move but it wasn't really as bad as I had come to expect
from someone else mentioning it in here. And
BAM, she shot James Wesley, redeemed!
.

I really can't wait to see the
red suit in action
, as it looks goofy on still images. He looks like a raccoon.

I thought the same thing about the suit. Looks weird straight on. Seeing it in action though, I think it's great.
It reminds me of the Shadowlands outfit, but with the colors reversed.
 
is this show any good? I might start to watch it.

It's ok.

Action scenes start out good but they become stale after awhile until
Nobu
and then make an unexpected turn into the silly with
Matt getting surrounded by the blind mob being handwaved away and the gunfire sequence in the same episode.
I liked the last episode's fight but some people felt it was misplaced.


The acting was usually on point. The problem though was that
most of the best actors were killed off
which dampens your expectations for next season.

The writing and plot was ok. They had some very good moments such as
the build up that allowed Vanessa's and Fisks relationship to survive their first date, Foggy's outrage over Matt's manipulation, Fisk and Murdoch father flashbacks.
Then they had some really bad moments like
Karen's stupidity and stubbornness getting quite a few people in bad situations, Gao's and Leland's atrocious mishandling of pushing Fisk in the proper direction, Claire partially falling for Matt.


The production values was generally good. The only misstep is how
Matt's damage from the fight with Nobu wasn't carried forward properly with the roof top scene when he was looking for Gao's heroin factory.
It's all the more jarring considering how much they took that type of thing into account in every other episode.


In the end I felt I wasn't watching great television. I felt as if I was watching something on the cusp of being something memorable but it just fell short most of the time. The consequences of Karen's actions are the only brain burning parts.
 
I think something this show does incredibly well is just the fact that it brings in sort of a villain of the week in a plausible way per episode. It never feels forced like it may in other shows, but everything works together. It was one of the first things I noticed. It just finished episode 10, but I'm excited for the last 3 episodes.
 
I finished the series yesterday.

Episodes 1-4: decent, great, bad, decent.
Episodes 5-8 were all good-great.
Episodes 9-13 were just okay.

I thought the overall vibe was cool and the action scenes were fairly well done, but the characters were all stock (despite the actors doing their best to elevate the material) and the plot was never particularly interesting.

I still liked it overall though - it's way better than most of the other superhero shows on TV and I'm definitely looking forward to the rest of the MCU Netflix crop.
 
Me and my wife finished the series on Saturday, and loved it.

I didn't even think episodes 10 and 11 were weak. I enjoyed it thoroughly, and those kinds of episodes, I feel, helped relieve so much of the tension and chaos of earlier episodes.

I think D'Onofrio is fantastic as Wilson Fisk. No, he's not Kingpin yet. And I think that's a smart, realistic choice. If Wilson Fisk was at the level of Kingpin, at the same time that Matt Murdock is a Level 2 Daredevil, Daredevil would be dead within the week. There's no way Murdock could have handled dealing with a top of his game Fisk.

By having both characters go through their origins at the same time, we get a nice mirror reflection of the two and their ideologies, and why they conflict, as well as setting the stage for a rivalry that will, almost literally, break them. They put each other through the ringer, a back and forth like a boxing match between two evenly matched foes.

Seeing a vulnerable and "weak" Fisk is just as important as seeing a vulnerable and weak Matt. I'm looking forward to seeing how that plays out if we get a second season sooner, rather than later.

The show was amazing.
 
Watched up to episode 4 so far. Absolutely love it. Really like seeing a darker story still being present in the MCU. Makes me crave for punisher.
 
I have NO idea how they're going to pull Defenders. Daredevil arguably looks and feels completelly detached from the rest of MCU, with Jessica Jones going for that teenage detective audience, I can't seem to place them together just like I can't imagine Mickey Mouse in Beowulf. Putting an R rated hero together with PG13 rated hero is going to be weird.
 
BRUH BRUH BRUH (Episode 9 spoilers)
'If I could get inside the head of the man who won the heart of such a charming woman...it would inform my decision.'

'Well...you could always ask him yourself.'
INCOMING FISK OH FUCK, BRO, BRO, BRO
 
I have NO idea how they're going to pull Defenders. Daredevil arguably looks and feels completelly detached from the rest of MCU, with Jessica Jones going for that teenage detective audience, I can't seem to place them together just like I can't imagine Mickey Mouse in Beowulf. Putting an R rated hero together with PG13 rated hero is going to be weird.

Can you imagine Mickey Mouse in Final Fantasy?
 
I have NO idea how they're going to pull Defenders. Daredevil arguably looks and feels completelly detached from the rest of MCU, with Jessica Jones going for that teenage detective audience, I can't seem to place them together just like I can't imagine Mickey Mouse in Beowulf. Putting an R rated hero together with PG13 rated hero is going to be weird.

Isn't Alias a R-rated comic? Like worse than daredevil R-Rated?
 
I have NO idea how they're going to pull Defenders. Daredevil arguably looks and feels completelly detached from the rest of MCU, with Jessica Jones going for that teenage detective audience, I can't seem to place them together just like I can't imagine Mickey Mouse in Beowulf. Putting an R rated hero together with PG13 rated hero is going to be weird.
Teenage detective audience

Right

You have no idea what you're talking about. Alias was really dark
 
Wesley
getting killed
was the dumbest thing that happened in this show. The level of carelessness involved in that scene was ridiculous.

Ben
getting killed
was the most predictable thing that happened in this show.
 
I have NO idea how they're going to pull Defenders. Daredevil arguably looks and feels completelly detached from the rest of MCU, with Jessica Jones going for that teenage detective audience, I can't seem to place them together just like I can't imagine Mickey Mouse in Beowulf. Putting an R rated hero together with PG13 rated hero is going to be weird.

Wut...where in the hell do you get that idea? Behind the scene photos?

Done Episode 7. Will we get to see what the hell was that all about?
Pretty sudden changes to the flow, like the show become superhero-ish all of a sudden.
 
That
Buddha Palm
that Matt ate, though. Can't wait for Season 2 when they go deeper into that.


EDIT: That TERRIBLE line from Karen about how
the three of them stopped Fisk.

Yeah, there were more people involved, dummy.
 
Foggy was fucking fantastic. Those jokes and puns were phenomenal, I laughed.

The only character I could NOT stand was
Karen.
Just the way she...how she...EYAAAHHHH.

But for real, Episode
11
made me like her.

Anyway, just finished the show and it was soooooo good.
Finale was a little anti-climactic and I was expecting some foreshadowing to something else plot-wise in the end but damn what a well produced show.

Is Agents of Shield or Agent Carter this good?
 
Foggy was fucking fantastic. Those jokes and puns were phenomenal, I laughed.

The only character I could NOT stand was
Karen.
Just the way she...how she...EYAAAHHHH.

But for real, Episode
11
made me like her.

Anyway, just finished the show and it was soooooo good.
Finale was a little anti-climactic and I was expecting some foreshadowing to something else plot-wise in the end but damn what a well produced show.

Is Agents of Shield or Agent Carter this good?

Agents of Shield is good too but the tone is very different. It's also more of a slow burn. It may seem silly but the extra ten minutes per episode in Daredevil makes each episode feel like it has different pacing from most shows as well. AoS is definitely worth binge watching as Season 2 has been pretty cool so far. As for Agent Carter, it was alright but there were elements that were pretty disappointing. I'd only watch it if you were a big fan of Captain America 1.
 
I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere but I just found this out today and it blew my mind.

The actor who played Foggy also played Fulton Reed from The Mighty Ducks

Fulton-Reed.jpg
 
just finished it.

really good, but it did kind of feel like the show gets a little worse in the final stretch. Overall still easily the best comic show and one of the best pieces of media in the genre period.
 
Just watched episode 11. Dunno why people don't like it, I thought it was a pretty strong episode actually.
Matt being a badass again, progress on the suit, Wesley getting killed (although it was dumb of him to do that with his gun, but I thought it worked considering his total lack of respect for Karen and "average" people)
. The episode was really well shot too, the bar scene with foggy and Karen had gorgeous lighting, as did the final scene.
 
Episode 8

Damn, Fisk had a fucked up childhood.

Great episode so far.

Yo it's crazy seeing Fisk seemingly be afraid(?) of Nobu and Gao. Possibly even Fisk. Dudes is gonna snap one day, and mess them all up. Also, lol Wesley. Your translating was all for naught.
 
Just finished it today.

Hot damn, this show is absolutely fantastic!

And more brutal, violent, and bloodier than I anticipated from a Marvel Daredevil production, but I guess not being on network TV and going for a MA rating certainly made it easier to let loose, more or less an R-rated Daredevil, wow.
 
Agents of Shield is good too but the tone is very different. It's also more of a slow burn. It may seem silly but the extra ten minutes per episode in Daredevil makes each episode feel like it has different pacing from most shows as well. AoS is definitely worth binge watching as Season 2 has been pretty cool so far. As for Agent Carter, it was alright but there were elements that were pretty disappointing. I'd only watch it if you were a big fan of Captain America 1.

Thanks, sounds like AoS seems worth getting into, for the second season at least.
 
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