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[prwxv3]

Who cares.

Says a lot when people care more about mere "things" than the lives of people.

how about you get a loan, start a business then have it destroyed by a riot and come back here.

I don't like it when people use the rioting a distraction from the main issue but the excuse bullshit is just a irritating to me.

 

[King Tubby]

Who cares.

Says a lot when people care more about mere "things" than the lives of people.

The people looting don't give a shit about anybody's lives.

 

[sestrugen]

"A flier was sent via social media inviting young people to participate in a 'Purge'"

 

[Icedburden]

I'm not against people using anger or hitting the headlines with fire and rage to make a point. Unfortunately the popular response to black men being shot in cold blood has not been bold enough - this is bigger than small businesses and temporary inconvenience in the here and now. It's sad if innocent people get hurt, but continued injustice would be even sadder. Although kids, looters and chumps always take advantage of situations like this, the fires should burn until justice is served IMO - I'm white, I'm from the UK - but my race is the human race - I feel every solidarity.

You wouldn't say that if your own front yard was being destroyed and set fire to.
That's what's happening here.

 

[esms]

Those kids were pissed in that video.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Just have police and government treat minorities better. Its simple really.

The problem isn't simply police, it's the socioeconomic system that has created cities like Baltimore, Detroit, etc. You could have the nicest police in the world and it wouldn't result the problem being fixed. But obviously having corrupt police departments is like the icing on a shit cake.

There are a mixture of agitators and opportunists mixed in with people who are legitimately airing grievances. At the end of the day this type of rage is baited when you have police beating the life out of someone in a van and lying about it.

 

[Macho Madness]

Crazy.

 

[The Llama]

I think part of the problem with the modern explosion is that the way teachers and schools have taught the civil rights movement has been hugely problematic. They teach Martin Luther King Jr. and nonviolence and maybe mention Malcolm X incidentally. What they don't focus on enough is just how much actual violence exploded despite the nonviolence movement. In the 60s, blacks were furious too. And just like now, sometimes protests were peaceful, but often they were extremely violent and stores were looted and people were killed.

Many people love to say bullshit like "MARTIN LUTHER KING DID IT PEACEFULLY", but it's such a comically shallow view of what actually happened that it betrays how little education these people have.



I agree, but with this congress exactly what do you think will get done?

I didn't even learn about the civil rights period in my AP history class, since I had a history teacher who was obsessed with Reagan and skipped from the Korean War to the 80's to teach him to us. Of course the main essay on the AP History test that year was on the Vietnam war, too.

Spoiler

I still got a 4.

 

[Jakten]

Pictures from inside the looting of a 7-11.

I wonder how many of these people live in poverty and/or in a food desert?

Baltimore food desert map.

 

[Rembrandt]

The people looting don't give a shit about anybody's lives.

That's a very absolutist and dumb statement to make.

 

[Cmagus]

So looting a CVS is accomplishing what?

Sadly nothing and the problem now is that this is what the news will run over and over making all the peaceful protesters look bad.

 

[Enron]

who are these two on this live feed? They are terrible. Seems unprofessional

 

[AmyS]

I was going to visit Baltimore this spring, my first trip to the northeast. Looks like those plans are on hold.

 

[Amir0x]

I didn't even learn about the civil rights period in my AP history class, since I had a history teacher who was obsessed with Reagan and skipped from the Korean War to the 80's to teach him to us. Of course the main essay on the AP History test that year was on the Vietnam war, too.

Spoiler

I still got a 4.

Man if I had a history class like that I would have been the world's most sarcastic student lol

 

[Mesoian]

I didn't even learn about the civil rights period in my AP history class, since I had a history teacher who was obsessed with Reagan and skipped from the Korean War to the 80's to teach him to us. Of course the main essay on the AP History test that year was on the Vietnam war, too.

Spoiler

I still got a 4.

Literally everything about this post is bewildering.

 

[CrimzonSamurai]

I was going to visit Baltimore this spring, my first trip to the northeast. Looks like those plans are on hold.

Bmore sucks anyway. DC would make for a much better trip.

 

[Macho Madness]

This is what they keep replaying

 

[Velcro Fly]

All it does is work to validate the already shit view that many racists have of blacks in America.

 

[Coketruck]

Who cares.

Says a lot when people care more about mere "things" than the lives of people.

As the owner of a small business, you're an idiot.

 

[Maninthemirror]

I was going to visit Baltimore this spring, my first trip to the northeast. Looks like those plans are on hold.

it is likely going to be fine by next week compared to today

 

[Delicious Waffles]

Free Newports? What the fuck do you think looting accomplishes?

Absolutely nothing. That's my point.

If you want to protest, keep it peaceful and civil. Doing something like this in the name of change doesn't accomplish anything.

 

[Coffee Dog]

The sad truth is that once all other options are exhausted, if change is to be made eventually you have to start breaking shit and hurting people. Because that's all some will listen to.

 

[m3k]

This is what happens when you keep persecuting people. The 60's were chock full of race riots, and just like the 60's, the only way this is going to get better instead of worse is if we legislate some real changes to our racist system. Not just lip service.

Yessir

 

[Lil'DigiOp]

how about you get a loan, start a business then have it destroyed by a riot and come back here.

I don't like it when people use the rioting a distraction from the main issue but the excuse bullshit is just a irritating to me.

CVS and 7-11 is a corporation, they'll be just fine

You wouldn't say that if your own front yard was being destroyed and set fire to.
That's what's happening here.

Who is setting fire to anyones front yard? Nobody.

Actually funny thing, in Bmore thread pt 1, people asked why no violence is directed towards the police instead of bystanders.

Well here you go, is this a problem now too?

 

[prwxv3]

As the owner of a small business, you're an idiot.

But you are obviously rich and can pay for all the damages easily. /s

 

[The Incarnation]

how about you get a loan, start a business then have it destroyed by a riot and come back here.

I don't like it when people use the rioting a distraction from the main issue but the excuse bullshit is just a irritating to me.

Perhaps you should learn to control your emotions then if you're that easily irritated, much like those rioters and looters.

 

[Maninthemirror]

The sad truth is that once all other options are exhausted, if change is to be made eventually you have to start breaking shit and hurting people.

anarchy is never a solution in the long term

 

[LiK]

stay safe Baltimore-GAF

 

[Macho Madness]

 

[Kreed]

I agree and asked him to clarify, which he did.

The "message is lost" is also a reference to the previous riot thread where posters were arguing that because of violence from some individuals, the overall message of the protest had been lost.

 

[Jakten]

That's a very absolutist and dumb statement to make.

Everyone thinks that everyone lives as comfortably as they do. It might make them feel sad if they have to think that not everyone gets to eat/live well everyday.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Absolutely nothing. That's my point.

If you want to protest, keep it peaceful and civil. Doing something like this in the name of change doesn't accomplish anything.

A small percentage of people are looting. They may not have been protesting at all.

 

[Amir0x]

anarchy is never a solution in the long term

Actually events like this have frequently been hugely instrumental in massive change that have altered history over the long term.

You don't have to like it, but revisionist history suits no one. This stuff works OFTEN.

 

[The Incarnation]

As the owner of a small business, you're an idiot.

Constructive.


Much like those rioters and looters.

If you're that quick to anger and insult, why should anyone care about you, or your business?

 

[8 X 11 Printer Paper]

I didn't even learn about the civil rights period in my AP history class, since I had a history teacher who was obsessed with Reagan and skipped from the Korean War to the 80's to teach him to us. Of course the main essay on the AP History test that year was on the Vietnam war, too.

Spoiler

I still got a 4.

I would of had a mental breakdown in that class at some point.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Wouldn't they be heavily clothed and armored though?

5lbs is somewhat heavier than I was thinking originally though, so that explains the disconnect.

I highly doubt every officer is armored with protection. Even small rocks thrown to the face will do some damage. Did you even see these rioters throwing the rocks? From the footage, they're throwing them pretty damn hard.

 

[Henchmen21]

Absolutely nothing. That's my point.

If you want to protest, keep it peaceful and civil. Doing something like this in the name of change doesn't accomplish anything.

100% factually wrong. Every major change in human history has come from violent uprising. America as a country wouldn't exist if the American Revolution was "civil".

 

[King Tubby]

That's a very absolutist and dumb statement to make.

I can understand the people throwing bottles and rocks at police, even if I don't agree with it. The looting of neighborhood businesses is just incredibly stupid and counterproductive on several levels. This isn't a Sal's pizza situation it's just opportunists taking advantage of chaos.

 

[Volimar]

Are they really still going to have the game there tonight?

 

[Omegasquash]

Absolutely nothing. That's my point.

If you want to protest, keep it peaceful and civil. Doing something like this in the name of change doesn't accomplish anything.

"Sit down and don't get out of line."

People have tried keeping it peaceful and civil, yet we get more stories of black men being killed with no recompense all the time. They are fed up, and this is what happens when pressure builds.

 

[Netherscourge]

This will only get uglier.

 

[DrForester]

Fuck every single person there.

Hope that CVS was closed and there aren't any employees inside.

 

[timetokill]

anarchy is never a solution in the long term

When the "archy" is corrupt, anarchy is the inevitable short term solution to a long term problem.

 

[JZA]

Free Newports? What the fuck do you think looting accomplishes?

Funny because I thought CVS doesn't even sell cigarettes anymore. Maybe they can loot for some Nicorette and toothpaste.

 

[Rembrandt]

Everyone thinks that everyone lives as comfortably as they do. It might make them feel sad if they have to think that not everyone gets to eat/live well everyday.

But the businesses man.. These threads are annoying.

Actually events like this have frequently been hugely instrumental in massive change that have altered history over the long term.

You don't have to like it, but revisionist history suits no one. This stuff works OFTEN.

Please stop being right.

 

[Enron]

"Sit down and don't get out of line."

People have tried keeping it peaceful and civil, yet we get more stories of black men being killed with no recompense all the time. They are fed up, and this is what happens when pressure builds.

In the meantime, people who don't have anything to do with it or (since most of destructive looting happens in the communities the protesters are in) probably agree with you get their shit ruined just because. Go destroy some police cars, go destroy some public or state property, but why loot and burn down the convenience store on the corner?

 

[FairXchange]

The American obsession with "private property" runs deep. It even takes precedent over people's lives.

There's also the issue of 7 officers being injured today, so this has escalated from being a property issue in the eyes of law enforcement.

 

[CrimzonSamurai]

CVS and 7-11 is a corporation, they'll be just fine

Wow, you have no concept of how franchise businesses work, do you?

Insurance will ultimately cover it but still, can't imagine all the opiate pills going out to the street from the CVS are going to do much good for Baltimore.

 

[Suikoguy]

Part of the problem is the overlap of Protestors and Looters is not 100%

Sure, some of the violent protestors are looters, but you also have a subset that is taking advantage of the situation.

People fail to understand this concept when thinking about it conceptually.

 

[Vincent Grayson]

100% factually wrong. Every major change in human history has come from violent uprising. America as a country wouldn't exist if the American Revolution was "civil".

Yeah, well then what about the *civil* war?

Game. Set. Match.