Devil May Cry 4 SE: Vergil, Trish & Lady Playable, Release Date 18th of June

I would like co-op to be kept in its separate mode, away from the main campaign. I don't want to have this follow the route RE took where co-op was the focus.
 
The problem is that their games don't tend to sell well.

MGR did well enough but the strength of the MG IP had a lot to do with that, W101 and Bayo2 bombed right after.

They are very talented and make great games but they are still just guns for hire and make one wonder how long they will continue to get hired if their games continue to sell like they do, it doesn't help that they specialize in just one genre, which isn't exactly on fire sales-wise generally speaking.

Here's hoping MS markets Scalebound properly (wasn't Kamiya disappointed in how Nintendo marketed W101 and Bayo2?) and they are able to stay afloat and keep getting work. Though with the X1 doing well only in the UK and US, that may be a problem.

Oh, you meant in terms of sales. I can't really argue with that, because Platinum games always bomb.
 
The problem is that their games don't tend to sell well.

MGR did well enough but the strength of the MG IP had a lot to do with that, W101 and Bayo2 bombed right after.

They are very talented and make great games but they are still just guns for hire and make one wonder how long they will continue to get hired if their games continue to sell like they do, it doesn't help that they specialize in just one genre, which isn't exactly on fire sales-wise generally speaking.

Here's hoping MS markets Scalebound properly (wasn't Kamiya disappointed in how Nintendo marketed W101 and Bayo2?) and they are able to stay afloat and keep getting work. Though with the X1 doing well only in the UK and US, that may be a problem.

It mattered but MGR still being a good game had a lot to do with it too.
 
Sales? well then Rising did good for them, lets see if recent developments don't affect the future of that series,but should be a safe proposition, GoW is very successful (best selling in the genre) except for the last one, another is coming up. Scalebound is funded and published by Micosoft, seems to be a bit more targeted to Wester audiences, could sell good or bad.

Wonderful 101 was a total disaster, Bayonetta 2 sold badly but at least was a critical darling. Nintendo could consider Platinum for another collaboration on other system.

Team Ninja has problems but its likely they will release another Ninja Gaiden someday, its possible.

DMC itself sold below their insane expectations but its still a successful series for the company, they just treat it badly at times.
 
So I've compiled a lot of the footage that we've been getting from Capcom's event. Naturally, since it's from the niconico stream understand quality is 360p/480p at best. Remember some of it you've seen before, some of it is new. But I think it would be nice to start compiling it together in larger videos.

There is also one segment of footage in which the sound was terrible with annoying background music and commentary so I just overlayed Vergil's special edition theme over it. These guest challenges are interesting because you see people of various skill level. And even poorly skilled players are picking up Vergil very quickly. Vergil seems very pick up and play friendly.

30 minutes of Trish and Lady gameplay

30 minutes of Vergil Bloody Palace Guest Player challenges. Some players are better than others. Naturally.

30 Minutes of Vergil Bloody Palaace Guest Player challenges Part 2. No sound, so I overlayed the special edition theme over it. Which sounds good in action IMO. Wish they actually used it in-game

I also have an hour and 50 minutes of Vergil gameplay where he's a new game Vergil going through the missions all the way up to and beyond the Berial fight. So...that's mission 4 + right?
that's still processing.
 
Co-op is a natural progression to the formula. Heck, DMC3 has bootleg co-op with Super Dante and Doppleganger style.

People should expect it in Bloody Palace at this point. It's been in NG, it's been in Bayonetta... DMC has to catch up.

Yep.

Agreed, though, that it should stay out of the campaign mode and should be only in Bloody Palace mode (or some vastly-expanded-and-improved version of the same).
 
So I've compiled a lot of the footage that we've been getting from Capcom's event. Naturally, since it's from the niconico stream understand quality is 360p/480p at best. Remember some of it you've seen before, some of it is new. But I think it would be nice to start compiling it together in larger videos.

There is also one segment of footage in which the sound was terrible with annoying background music and commentary so I just overlayed Vergil's special edition theme over it. These guest challenges are interesting because you see people of various skill level. And even poorly skilled players are picking up Vergil very quickly. Vergil seems very pick up and play friendly.

30 minutes of Trish and Lady gameplay

30 minutes of Vergil Bloody Palace Guest Player challenges. Some players are better than others. Naturally.

30 Minutes of Vergil Bloody Palaace Guest Player challenges Part 2. No sound, so I overlayed the special edition theme over it. Which sounds good in action IMO. Wish they actually used it in-game

I also have an hour and 50 minutes of Vergil gameplay where he's a new game Vergil going through the missions all the way up to and beyond the Berial fight. So...that's mission 4 + right?
that's still processing.

Thanks a lot man :)
I really don't have time to watch nico stream so your videos are my savior.
 
Feels like we know everything there is to know about Vergil at a base level. The rest we won't know until hands on experience.

Like we know all of Vergil's moves in the game.
 
Vergil is not going to have any trouble against any enemy in the game. That is a fact.

If only they had the time to implement a Vergil boss...

Though I guess I can't complain if his omission was the only way to have a playable Trish and Lady. Hopefully bosses based on all playable characters become a priority in 5 - aren't Lucia, Nero and Trish the only playable characters in the series to not also have been enemies at some point?

I would like co-op to be kept in its separate mode, away from the main campaign. I don't want to have this follow the route RE took where co-op was the focus.

A copy-paste of Raid mode would be an awful idea, but the underlying concept could work as a way to implement co-op outside of just Bloody Palace. Especially if 5 moves away from a linear mission-based structure; having a mode that consists of a faster-paced linear route through segments of the main game's environments with altered enemy layouts would be a good way to allow a majority of the game's content to be playable in co-op; without compromising the rest of the game's design, as in RE games following 5.
 
Why no ps3 or xbox 360 version??

LDK mode wouldn't work.

And it would probably be 720p at 60 fps not 1080p at 60 fps.

But you're right, they could still have included the new characters and not the other new features.

Although a lot of the attacks are heavy on the special effects, those would likely have to be toned down as well. Lady and Trish truly have some destructive shit.
 
So, Trish has Dante's Trickster dash, i wonder if that's her default dodge move(i really hope so). The only new moves i've seen so far are the spinning bird kick and the round trip move that pulls enemies towards her, the rest are pretty much Dante's moves but they managed to mix them in new combos, Itsuno did what he could with the little budget and time they gave him.
 
LDK mode wouldn't work.

And it would probably be 720p at 60 fps not 1080p at 60 fps.

But you're right, they could still have included the new characters and not the other new features.
Yes. I love games & it doesn't matter if its 720p or 1080p. 30 or 60 fps. As long as it looks & plays good I am game.
Moreover the visual difference wouldn't have been too much. I think developing for other platforms would have cost them more thus they opted out. since most of the recent capcom games are failing.
 
So, Trish has Dante's Trickster dash, i wonder if that's her default dodge move(i really hope so). The only new moves i've seen so far are the spinning bird kick and the round trip move that pulls enemies towards her, the rest are pretty much Dante's moves but they managed to mix them in new combos, Itsuno did what he could with the little budget and time they gave him.

I wonder how Trickster dash is performed, since O is devoted to Sparda based attacks now.


hey, guys... in all this videos, some used "jump cancel" with Vergil?

Vergil has Enemy Step as a purchasable skill at 5,000 Proud Souls.
 
So, Trish has Dante's Trickster dash, i wonder if that's her default dodge move(i really hope so). The only new moves i've seen so far are the spinning bird kick and the round trip move that pulls enemies towards her, the rest are pretty much Dante's moves but they managed to mix them in new combos, Itsuno did what he could with the little budget and time they gave him.
Where did you see the Trickster Dash? Because the one I saw was the dash before the Dance Macabre move which Trish has.
 
I wonder if the trophies/achievements are going to be the same as the original game because DMC4 had it's own in game achievement progress cause it would be weird to have all of this new content and none of the achievements reflect that. I.E. I don't wanna have to S rank this game (more annoying than fun) to get the plat.
 
Sales? well then Rising did good for them, lets see if recent developments don't affect the future of that series,but should be a safe proposition, GoW is very successful (best selling in the genre) except for the last one, another is coming up. Scalebound is funded and published by Micosoft, seems to be a bit more targeted to Wester audiences, could sell good or bad.

Wonderful 101 was a total disaster, Bayonetta 2 sold badly but at least was a critical darling. Nintendo could consider Platinum for another collaboration on other system.

Team Ninja has problems but its likely they will release another Ninja Gaiden someday, its possible.

DMC itself sold below their insane expectations but its still a successful series for the company, they just treat it badly at times.

Still wonder if Kamiya would hold true to that Mysterious Murasame Castle revival since StarFox is already being done in house with EAD.

On topic, it's good to know that there's going to be regular streams of the SE for the near future.
 
Looking forward to the Capcom-Unity stream.

I wonder if the trophies/achievements are going to be the same as the original game because DMC4 had it's own in game achievement progress cause it would be weird to have all of this new content and none of the achievements reflect that. I.E. I don't wanna have to S rank this game (more annoying than fun) to get the plat.

Those in-game achievements were actual achievements on the 360 version. The PS3 never got a trophy patch.

I imagine they'll revamp the achievements for the Special Edition to include the new characters and modes.
 
Ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow is the day. Livestreams with Greg have begun. It'll be just like the DmC DE streams.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregama...-cry-4-special-edition-gameplay-on-wednesdays

There will be a livestream every wednesday for the next five weeks.

Upcoming Streams
(NOTE: Schedule may be subject to change.)
4/28 - Vergil
5/6 - Trish
5/13 - Lady
5/20 - Dante
5/27 - Nero
So that must have been the order of votes.. Poor Nero. Will be interesting to see Gregaman's take on Dante compared to notable DMC4 players (not like I'd be any better)...
 
Looking forward to the Capcom-Unity stream.

Those in-game achievements were actual achievements on the 360 version. The PS3 never got a trophy patch.

I imagine they'll revamp the achievements for the Special Edition to include the new characters and modes.

The Steam page also list achievements for the Steam version, vanilla DMC4 PC version didn't have achievements either.
 
I imagine LDK is selectable from the start as well.

Yeah, it looked like it was available from the get go when they started a new game with Vergil during the Nico stream.

So that must have been the order of votes.. Poor Nero. Will be interesting to see Gregaman's take on Dante compared to notable DMC4 players (not like I'd be any better)...

Nero and Dante being at the bottom and Vergil at the top is no surprise.

Was hoping for Trish or Lady to be first though, we have seen a lot of Vergil already. Wonder who is the more competent between Greg and that girl Itsuno put on stream :P
 
Nero and Dante being at the bottom and Vergil at the top is no surprise.

Was hoping for Trish or Lady to be first though, we have seen a lot of Vergil already.

Yeah, they were taking votes before the deluge of Vergil info. Still, we'll finally get some high quality footage with English commentary.


The Steam page also list achievements for the Steam version, vanilla DMC4 PC version didn't have achievements either.

Yep. That'll be nice. It was unfortunate that vanilla DMC4 never got any achievements for PS3 or PC.
 
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