PS4 reaches 2m sales in the UK

So I looked at this thread and I noticed that the Wii U is not mentioned at all.

Surely that's near 1 million now.
I'd be extremely surprised if it's anywhere close to that. More closer to half that I'd say.

I'm the only person I know with one!
 
Strange, well the system will get a good boost this month. I'd say 1 million is possible by the end of the year.
Yeah I think that's a bit far fetched, if it has only done 500k in 2 years (I'm speculating I don't know) with all the big guns releasing it has no chance of doing the same in 7 months.

It's been DoA here since launch.
 
Just to give some perspective here.

The Wii U launched November 2012 in the UK.

The PS4 launched November 2013 in the UK. The PS4 outsold the Wii U LTD within 24 hours of the PS4 going on sale.

The Wii U had only sold just over 200k in the UK by the end of 2013 where as the PS4 had sold 530k by the end of 2013.
 
Just to give some perspective here.

The Wii U launched November 2012 in the UK.

The PS4 launched November 2013 in the UK. The PS4 outsold the Wii U LTD within 24 hours of the PS4 going on sale.

The Wii U had only sold just over 200k in the UK by the end of 2013 where as the PS4 had sold 530k by the end of 2014.

damn the PS4 really exploded this year!

you meant end of 2013 :P

edit: regarding Wii U, I'd be surprised if it was even at 400k in the UK by the end of 2014
 
So the Xbox hasn't passed the Wii LTD yet looking at your graph? Then that would mean it did over 1 million by now if only the PS4 beat the Wii U's LTD

What are you talking about? This graph?

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Look harder at this graph.
 
So the Xbox hasn't passed the Wii LTD yet looking at your graph? Then that would mean it did over 1 million by now if only the PS4 beat the Wii U's LTD

What?

You need to label consoles correctly.

Are you talking about Wii U and Xbox One? Or Xbox and Wii?

I'm so confused. Can you be a bit clearer please.
 
Just to give some perspective here.

The Wii U launched November 2012 in the UK.

The PS4 launched November 2013 in the UK. The PS4 outsold the Wii U LTD within 24 hours of the PS4 going on sale.

The Wii U had only sold just over 200k in the UK by the end of 2013 where as the PS4 had sold 530k by the end of 2013.

Wow that's amazing :-)
 
Just to give some perspective here.

The Wii U launched November 2012 in the UK.

The PS4 launched November 2013 in the UK. The PS4 outsold the Wii U LTD within 24 hours of the PS4 going on sale.

The Wii U had only sold just over 200k in the UK by the end of 2013 where as the PS4 had sold 530k by the end of 2013.

500k is the real milestone for the Wii U in the UK.
 
What?

You need to label consoles correctly.

Are you talking about Wii U and Xbox One? Or Xbox and Wii?

I'm so confused. Can you be a bit clearer please.

You said the PS4 beat the Wii U LTD at launch, but not the Xbox One, so that means the WIi U is ahead of the Xbox One, so the Wii u should be aver 1 million by now?
 
You said the PS4 beat the Wii U LTD at launch, but not the Xbox One, so that means the WIi U is ahead of the Xbox One, so the Wii u should be aver 1 million by now?

The PS4 outsold the WiiU's LTD on the day launched. The XB1 fell short of it IIRC.
That in no way means that the WiiU is still ahead of the XB1.
 
Thought you guys may be interested in a bit of a forecast.

Here is what I envision the graph looking like at the end of 2015. It's somewhat conservative but does account for traditional holiday bumps/potential upcoming trends.

To sum up, I strongly believe that the PS4 will track ahead of the PS2 for the rest of this year and have a strong holiday season worldwide. I believe that the Xbox One will fall under the PS3 (aligned) and by the end of this year will have sold in just under the 21.1m units that the PS3 shipped during the same time period. The Wii U will see remain flat YOY in terms of growth. Of course I could be wrong, this is just what I forecast for now.

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Zhuge, your charts are basically impossible to read on mobile, because both GAF and PhotoBucket prevent me from zooming in. PB actually frames the unzoomable image, making it smaller still. ><

Anyway, since I can't read it for myself, you said 21.1M for PS3. Is that more than XB2 had shipped, launch-aligned? Edit: if so, are you putting XB3 ahead of XB2, or behind it?
 
Zhuge, your charts are basically impossible to read on mobile, because both GAF and PhotoBucket prevent me from zooming in. PB actually frames the unzoomable image, making it smaller still. ><

Anyway, since I can't read it for myself, you said 21.1M for PS3. Is that more than XB2 had shipped, launch -aligned?

Just hold down on the image until the menu pops up and then tap "open in new tab" then you can use pinch to zoom.

PS3 had sold 21.1m after 26 months, the Xbox 360 had sold 17.7m after 26 months. The PS3 always tracked ahead of the 360 (apart from first year) when you align launches.

When you use actual launch dates then remember the 360 had a 10m headstart and was released a year earlier. However the PS3 was able to close that gap and even now is slightly ahead of 360, slightly. Kinect was able to push 360 sales up to the same as PS3.

Edit: if so, are you putting XB3 ahead of XB2, or behind it?

Ahead, you have to remember that the Xbox One had a very high launch sell through (due to demand from long previous gen) and was launching off the back of a very successful previous generation console, the 360. When the 360 first launched it was nothing special and Microsoft even overshipped during their first holiday just to prove that the 360 was a success and that they had reached 10m before anyone else. What that meant was that the second and third year of 360 sales were fairly poor. It wasn't until the third year that the 360 actually started to sell a decent number and then people kept buying the 360 with Kinect providing another bump.

If you look at the first 4 years of 360 sales they are nothing special, if you look at the 4 years after that they're quite good. So the 360 actually sold more later in its life then at the beginning which is a bit similar to the PS1 when it first launched.


Also for the love of God, please stop using XB1 for Xbox, XB2 for 360 and XB3 for One. It's confusing as fuck!
 
Zhuge, your charts are basically impossible to read on mobile, because both GAF and PhotoBucket prevent me from zooming in. PB actually frames the unzoomable image, making it smaller still. ><

Anyway, since I can't read it for myself, you said 21.1M for PS3. Is that more than XB2 had shipped, launch-aligned? Edit: if so, are you putting XB3 ahead of XB2, or behind it?
Why don't you just click on it? That makes it come up in a separate window.
 
You said the PS4 beat the Wii U LTD at launch, but not the Xbox One, so that means the WIi U is ahead of the Xbox One, so the Wii u should be aver 1 million by now?

God damn man....you need to spend some more time reading what he wrote.

The new Artisan is alive and well.
 
So I looked at this thread and I noticed that the Wii U is not mentioned at all.

Surely that's near 1 million now.

Strange, well the system will get a good boost this month. I'd say 1 million is possible by the end of the year.

So the Xbox hasn't passed the Wii LTD yet looking at your graph? Then that would mean it did over 1 million by now if only the PS4 beat the Wii U's LTD

You said the PS4 beat the Wii U LTD at launch, but not the Xbox One, so that means the WIi U is ahead of the Xbox One, so the Wii u should be aver 1 million by now?

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Poor Herman. The numbers let you down once again. All those pesky facts getting in the way of your campaign statements.

All of this has happened before and will happen again. So say we all.
 
Is it just me or is it weird how all these accounts from like 2013/2014 who have never posted before have just started actively posting in sales threads and have the same kinda posts.

Hmmmm
 
Just hold down on the image until the menu pops up and then tap "open in new tab" then you can use pinch to zoom.
No love on Safari, unfortunately. With just about any other image posted on GAF, I can just tap it to open it in a separate, zoomable window, but tapping your images just takes me to the shitty PB page. Normally, I can also tap-hold, which brings up a menu to let me Copy/Save/Tabify, but holding your images does nothing at all. =/

Anyway, I don't know if that's just PB or something about how you link — even pasting the URL for the jpg directly in to Safari still takes me to the shitty PB page — but I can never really read your charts until I get home. lol

PS3 had sold 21.1m after 26 months, the Xbox 360 had sold 17.7m after 26 months. The PS3 always tracked ahead of the 360 (apart from first year) when you align launches.

When you use actual launch dates then remember the 360 had a 10m headstart and was released a year earlier. However the PS3 was able to close that gap and even now is slightly ahead of 360, slightly. Kinect was able to push 360 sales up to the same as PS3.
Yeah, I knew the PS3 sold faster and MS were able to coast on their head start for a while, but I know it took Sony a while to ramp up production, so I wasn't sure if it was already ahead by this point, launch-aligned.

Ahead, you have to remember that the Xbox One had a very high launch sell through (due to demand from long previous gen) and was launching off the back of a very successful previous generation console, the 360. When the 360 first launched it was nothing special and Microsoft even overshipped during their first holiday just to prove that the 360 was a success and that they had reached 10m before anyone else. What that meant was that the second and third year of 360 sales were fairly poor. It wasn't until the third year that the 360 actually started to sell a decent number and then people kept buying the 360 with Kinect providing another bump.
Yeah, I know XB3 launched strong and tapered off a bit. I just didn't realize XB2 shipments were only 17M at this point. I figured it would be closer to the PS3 than that.

If you look at the first 4 years of 360 sales they are nothing special, if you look at the 4 years after that they're quite good. So the 360 actually sold more later in its life then at the beginning which is a bit similar to the PS1 when it first launched.
Oh, really? I know it got a bump when Kinect launched, but I didn't know that translated in to any kind of sustained demand. I know that shortly after that, PS3 pulled ahead in annual sales again, so if XB2 sales were up, then PS3 were just up by even more? Any ideas why?

Also for the love of God, please stop using XB1 for Xbox, XB2 for 360 and XB3 for One. It's confusing as fuck!
Not as confusing as referring to the XBox 3 as the XBox One. :p

Anyway, sorry if it confuses you. I do it mostly to save space/typing when referring to the various generations of XBoxen. Do you really find it that inscrutable? What else could XB2 and XB3 possibly refer to? =/ Would it help if I said XBv2 and XBv3? lol
 
Is it just me or is it weird how all these accounts from like 2013/2014 who have never posted before have just started actively posting in sales threads and have the same kinda posts.

Hmmmm

It's the most wonderful time of the year!

With the most astro turfing

And everyone yelling get out of here!

Yes it's the most wonderful time of the year!

Not as confusing as referring to the XBox 3 as the XBox One. :p

Anyway, sorry if it confuses you. I do it mostly to save space/typing when referring to the various generations of XBoxen. Do you really find it that inscrutable? What else could XB2 and XB3 possibly refer to? =/ Would it help if I said XBv2 and XBv3? lol

XBX, 360 and XB1. I don't see how any of those take any more effort to type and they're the accepted and widely used shorthand and what everyone else understands. Use them for the love of God!

/s .... Mostly.
 
Just call them Xbox, 360, and Bone
I like this better. I know Zhuge likes to give me a hard time, but I have a hard time believing it actually took him 20 minutes to figure out what an XB3 is, or that he forgot what it was since the last time I mentioned it.

Pretty sure he's smarter than that. <3

Edit: I've actually never seen XBX before. Should I pretend to be super confused and put out? :p
 
No love on Safari

Then buy a better phone or something :P I can't be bothered to change from Photobucket lol

Yeah, I knew the PS3 sold faster and MS were able to coast on their head start for a while, but I know it took Sony a while to ramp up production, so I wasn't sure if it was already ahead by this point, launch-aligned.

Yeh, PS3 is always ahead really.

Yeah, I know XB3 launched strong and tapered off a bit. I just didn't realize XB2 shipments were only 17M at this point. I figured it would be closer to the PS3 than that.

Nah, 360 did terrible first couple of years, took a bit of time for people to actually buy into it as the HD console of choice in the US. People still had high expectations for the PS3 to be the default.

Oh, really? I know it got a bump when Kinect launched, but I didn't know that translated in to any kind of sustained demand. I know that shortly after that, PS3 pulled ahead in annual sales again, so if XB2 sales were up, then PS3 were just up by even more? Any ideas why?

As an example,

First 4 years of 360 sales were around ~38 million (till end of 2009), the 4 years after that saw Microsoft ship an additional ~44m.

The PS2 saw more than ~70 million shipped in its first 4 years, while the 4 years after only ~60 million were shipped.

With the PS3 we saw about ~48m shipped in 4 years, next 4 years saw about ~38m shipped.

The 360 sort of bucked the trend here. Whilst the Xbox One looks on track to do the opposite. High sales first, low sales later.

Not as confusing as referring to the XBox 3 as the XBox One. :p

Anyway, sorry if it confuses you. I do it mostly to save space/typing when referring to the various generations of XBoxen. Do you really find it that inscrutable? What else could XB2 and XB3 possibly refer to? =/ Would it help if I said XBv2 and XBv3? lol

Na it's cool. Just always have to do a double take when I read it haha.

Pretty sure he's smarter than that. <3

Sorry buddy, if sometimes it may come across as if I'm attacking you. I don't mean it <3
 
You said the PS4 beat the Wii U LTD at launch, but not the Xbox One, so that means the WIi U is ahead of the Xbox One, so the Wii u should be aver 1 million by now?

No. Iirc Xbox One didn't beat Wii U's total LTD in one day, it took an extra week to do so. Nintendo console's sales suck in the UK in general, heck you only have to look at the weekly PAL threads and see that it's fighting toe to toe with the Vita.
 
Wii U case.

PS4 outsold it lifetime on Day 1.
Xbone didn't.

So I guess Wii U was at 100-200k when PS4/Xbone launched... I will use 150k.

After that you have the 2013 holidays, full 2014 and early 2015.

I guess it did a bit more than double the 150k.

Blind guesses: ~400k LTD in UK.


PS. 1m this year is impossible... it will take at least 2 years to Wii U reach 1m... sorry for the bad news guys.
 
As an example,

First 4 years of 360 sales were around 38 million (till end of 2009), the 4 years after that saw Microsoft ship an additional 44m.

The PS2 saw more than 70 million shipped in its first 4 years, while the 4 years after only 60 million were shipped.

With the PS3 we saw about ~48m shipped in 4 years, next 4 years saw about ~38m shipped.
Huh. Interesting.

Na it's cool. Just always have to do a double take when I read it haha.
<3

Sorry buddy, if sometimes it may come across as if I'm attacking you. I don't mean it <3
<3!
 
You said the PS4 beat the Wii U LTD at launch, but not the Xbox One, so that means the WIi U is ahead of the Xbox One, so the Wii u should be aver 1 million by now?

Hey man, if you want to use avatar and name of hermain cain, at least act like one.... read and comprehend please.
 
Thought you guys may be interested in a bit of a forecast.

Here is what I envision the graph looking like at the end of 2015. It's somewhat conservative but does account for traditional holiday bumps/potential upcoming trends.

To sum up, I strongly believe that the PS4 will track ahead of the PS2 for the rest of this year and have a strong holiday season worldwide. I believe that the Xbox One will fall under the PS3 (aligned) and by the end of this year will have sold in just under the 21.1m units that the PS3 shipped during the same time period. The Wii U will see remain flat YOY in terms of growth. Of course I could be wrong, this is just what I forecast for now.

FCWW_zpso8bmwut2.jpg~original
Sounds about right, but if Sony really drops the price to $299, the PS4 might end up doing better than we all expected. But 36 million shipped at the end of this year is definitely a safe bet, though I wouldn't be surprised if the PS4 manages to surpass that in sold through numbers.

P.S. I know you said you were being conservative with your forecast, but I'm just stating my opinions. :)
 
Wii U case.

PS4 outsold it lifetime on Day 1.
Xbone didn't.

So I guess Wii U was at 100-200k when PS4/Xbone launched... I will use 150k.

After that you have the 2013 holidays, full 2014 and early 2015.

I guess it did a bit more than double the 150k.

Blind guesses: ~400k LTD in UK.


PS. 1m this year is impossible... it will take at least 2 years to Wii U reach 1m... sorry for the bad news guys.
More bad news. It'll never hit 1 million in the UK.
 
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