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Marvels Secret Wars by Hickman & Ribic |OT| Everything ends... Everything begins
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The Punisher.
bengraven
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After 100+ issues done by the same creative team, I would hate for it to end with a one page silly death that no one will care about two pages in (like, say, the end of AoA).
I'd like their story wrapped up nicely.
Okay I have tears in my eyes from laughingThis will never stop being funny.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Ha! Well alright then, man. I wish I was as coherent and cogent when I got tipsy. I got lessons to learn still.
And levels of liquoredness aside, I *do* see where you're comin' from. I guess I'm just saying I can see a way in which the characterization of the characters, and the highly entertaining way they bounce off each other when done right, can be done in a different setting with a somewhat similar, yet mostly different catalyst at play.
That doesn't mean I'm particularly looking forward to that rumor coming true, but I can see a way for interesting stories to come spinning out of it.
...Scott Summers was right?
Coriolanus
Banned
Cosmically justified. What Stretchy Satan needs is an elder god with future sight to tell him that he a G.
But really, even the massive Vic famboi that i am would readily admit that Stretchy Satan is legit good.
A dimension where only raw kinectic energy exists. There's also a flame dimension and probably a fart dimension too.
Imma go out on a leg and guess that Bendis wrote that. If correct, there's your explanation.
BB has dozens of reasons to disintegrate Maximus. Mutie is the weirdest figure in the marvel universe.
Manmademan
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Manmademan
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the comedy here comes from the fact that Cyclops' mutant power isn't energy generation, like you would assume.
No, cyclops' mutant power is that his eyes open dimensional portals to an unnamed dimension full of energy that seems to exist only to punch bad guys in the face. This is not a joke. this is the canon explanation as to where his optic beams come from.
I think being a deadbeat parent is an innate quality of the X-gene.
Manmademan
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Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
This shit right here is why I read comic books. It's so amazingly stupid that it somehow becomes awesome.
Coriolanus
Banned
It certainly is a trait of the summers gene.
Manmademan
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I see this one becoming a meme in comic threads
same here. some people have the impression that I'm all COMICS: SERIOUS BUSINESS but really, the fun of it all is in how ludicrous most of it is. Some of the silver age plotlines and characters are just unbelievable- but it doesn't matter, you could write anything and fans would forget in 6 months.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
hes a smug dick. and it bothers me that he hasnt been brought up on charges for creating ragnarok. that said, he has the innate secondary mutation of causing immense anger in king type characters. doom and namor constantly dickriding him is constantly hilarious
mystic armor though
....to who?
He is more of a dick in crossover and guess appearance stuff than his own book. Plus outsmarting Reed Richards is the intellect equivalent of beating Wolverine or Hulk (depending on weight class) in a fight as a cheap way to show that character X is badass.
Last I checked, Colossus, Prof X and Wolverine weren't part of the Summers clan.
This will never stop being funny.
This will always be amazing :lol
Coriolanus
Banned
I had to look that up.
Vic dickrides to Val, Speedoboy dickrides to Sue (which dickrides right back).
Reed dickrides to other reeds.
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I miss Dick Rider.
Coriolanus
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Last i checked, every. single. summers was not only a huge twat, but also a horrendous father on cosmic proportions.
Banshee was ok, tho.
Well I know form 90s Dr. Strange that there is a dimension that is in a state of perpetual digestion. Seems like farts would be a natural consequence of that.
Manmademan
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Well, he only has two kids, and one is from an alternate future where he got killed off so doesn't count.
The answer here is Cable.
Cyclops was willing to give up his only (legitimate) son to a time traveler from the future, knowing (at the time) he would never see him again because it was the only way to save him- putting his personal feelings aside for what was good for the kid.
Ok. "so what" you say. That's selfless, but not being a good Dad. Cable would agree, coming back from the future to tell Cyclops what a worthless piece of crap he was, leaving him to grow up in a hellish reality where apocalypse rules everything.
And cable had a point.
UNTIL we find out that after the cyclops and jean grey wedding, Rachel Grey pulls Scott and Jean thousands of years into the future to save a young nate grey and raise him.
Scott and Jean spent about 15 years (give or take) in the year 3000 with busted powers and a broken leg (Rachel didn't have enough energy to bring them there at full strength, and scott was injured in an early attack) not only raising cable in apocalypse's future into someone morally and physically strong enough to overthrow him, but also caring for a geriatric rachel grey that had put herself into a coma using up the last of her powers.
You can say a lot about Cyclops, but "bad father" isn't one of them.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
3 kids.
that kinda sounds like he was forced to raise nate. being somewhere where he couldnt run out on him after all.
googleplex
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Most of the people that hate Reed. Hate him for the same reasons Cyclops Haters hate Scott. They often bump heads with other characters that have some of the most insane fanboys ever. Namely Doom fans and Wolverine fans.
Manmademan
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who was the third kid? I'm drawing a blank. and don't say 'ruby summers' because she doesn't count.
And forced? not really. they didn't have to raise cable into the person he became, they could have just passed as mutants and lived normally there and let apocalypse do his thing.
if you didn't read the cyclops and phoenix series, you should- it's one of the better things to come out of that era, and it really shows how great a family scott/jean/nathan could have been in better circumstances.
Plus, dragging around your hundreds of years old comatose alternate timeline daughter for a decade has to get you some bonus points.
Bonus face:
Goddamn.
X-Men
He seems to always work with groups, even in most of his independent works. Plus, X-Men work well with the grandiose sci-fi tales he likes to tell.
googleplex
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I keep reading this, but in what way is Cyclops crazy?
Manmademan
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outside of "possessed by the phoenix and killing xavier" I can't really think of anything. A bit ruthless, but that's about it.
Yes, I'd love to see him on X-Men. Maybe play around with some Age of Apocalypse stuff.
Peter and MJ survive and retire to the new Marvel Universe.
choaffable
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Finished the issue last night and resisted reading all of Marvel Hickman until 4 am (I then fell asleep).
It's interesting that in the last New Avengers issue it's revealed that the Beyonders can only enter the multiverse via linear time. The "time is broken" stuff from Age of Ultron and All-New X-men makes sense. The broken timeline plays to Doom's advantage. So...Doom has been the puppet master for all Marvel events for the past 5 years!
It's also nuts that basically Marvel editorial signed off on Secret Wars back when Hickman started his Avengers run.
It's interesting that in the last New Avengers issue it's revealed that the Beyonders can only enter the multiverse via linear time. The "time is broken" stuff from Age of Ultron and All-New X-men makes sense. The broken timeline plays to Doom's advantage. So...Doom has been the puppet master for all Marvel events for the past 5 years!
It's also nuts that basically Marvel editorial signed off on Secret Wars back when Hickman started his Avengers run.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Manmademan
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i interpreted that as they only "exist" in linear time. they can't travel backwards, forwards, etc (as some marvel characters can).
they can't physically interact with the marvel multiverse at all, actually. they have to act through proxies (see: mighty avengers)
I'm expecting Bendis to bring him back as a villian during this event and have it carry over.
Manmademan
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"I was hoping that issue #1 of a 12 issue event would top something that happened two thirds of the way through the original series, but instead I got the same sort of build up that happened in the first issue of the original series. Fuck this shit."
This will never stop being funny.
There aren't enough of these.Can I use this as my avatar?
This always makes me laugh:
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Not even the "Same sort of buildup" - I mean - Shooter's Secret Wars was a shitty comic. This is at least worth reading.
shadyspace
Banned
8 issues.
Isn't that two thirds? It's been awhile since I read it, but I remember the first Secret Wars being 12 issues long.
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