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[ivysaur12]

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-b...r-he-would-have-gone-to-war-with-iraq/2229076

Jeb Bush says he would have invaded Iraq, as his brother did in 2003, but told Fox News’ Megan Kelly that mistakes were made.

“I would have [authorized the invasion], and so would have Hillary Clinton, just to remind everybody,” Bush said in an interview recorded Saturday after his commencement speech at Liberty University. “And so would almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got.”

Bush said the U.S. did not secure the country, leaving Iraqis to reject the military.

“By the way, guess who thinks that those mistakes took place as well? George W. Bush,” Jeb Bush said. “Yes, I mean, so just for the news flash to the world, if they’re trying to find places where there’s big space between me and my brother, this might not be one of those.”

The full interview airs Monday. Kelly also asked Bush about immigration.

“I mean, there’s got to be a point where we fix this system so that legal immigration is easier than illegal immigration and show some respect for people,” he said. To “a kid that might have been here 10 years, that might be a valedictorian of their high school, to say, 'No, no, no, you’re not allowed to go to college,' I just think there’s a point passed which we’re over the line. “

“If I go beyond the consideration of running to be an actual candidate, do you want people to just bend with the wind, to mirror people’s sentiment whoever is in front of you? ‘Oh, yes, I used to be for that but now, I’m for this.’ Is that the way we want to elect presidents?”

"Yes, I mean, so just for the news flash to the world, if they’re trying to find places where there’s big space between me and my brother, this might not be one of those” is probably not a winning sound byte.

 

[BronsonLee]

He's just racking up the soundbytes lately.

 

[wenis]

At least this just confirms that the Bush's(es?) are just a bunch of jackasses.

 

[JordanN]

“And so would almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got.”

Funny how France and Canada didn't. What does that say, Bush?

 

[RDreamer]

Pack it up, we're done here. Nobody asked for another Bush that would have gone to war.

 

[TheSeks]

“I would have [authorized the invasion], and so would have Hillary Clinton, just to remind everybody,” Bush said in an interview recorded Saturday after his commencement speech at Liberty University. “And so would almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got."

So you would've authorized an invasion even AFTER the UN found NOTHING in Iraq?

Okay, Jeb. Thanks for letting me know to never vote for you. Much obliged.

Spoiler

As if I ever was going to.

 

[m_shortpants]

So basically, he's blaming Obama for "not securing the country"?

 

[Vestal]

So many ways to answer that question were he could have not sounded like an idiot. Guess if you are an idiot the idiot answer is all you got.

 

[ivysaur12]

I like Marco Rubio's foreign policy better

https://twitter.com/TeamMarco/status/597113893975130113

Marco on radical jihadists.

 

[uncredited male]

“And so would almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got.”

"they got"

 

[Siegcram]

Man, being called "the smartest Bush" really doesn't go a long way, huh.

 

[jayu26]

I don't think we wants to be president you guys.

 

[Frank Serpico]

Dubya is still pretty well liked by republicans, people forget that

 

[Tesseract]

impressive spell caster, this jeb of bushels

 

[Meowster]

Trying to end his bid early, I see. No one wants another W. Bush.

 

[hydragonwarrior]

Lol so he's saying his brother did a shit job in managing the invasion?

 

[Mesousa]

Trying to end his bid early, I see. No one wants another W. Bush.

People have short memories. He's probably going to win the nomination.

 

[Fracas]

I like Marco Rubio's foreign policy better

https://twitter.com/TeamMarco/status/597113893975130113

hoooooly shit that's real

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

I didn't know jeb's brother was dick cheney

 

[SolarPowered]

Stay away from the white house, Jeb. Just stay the fuck away.

 

[Merc_]

Hahaha, they still haven't learned yet.

 

[FiggyCal]

So basically, he's blaming Obama for "not securing the country"?

He's doing basically what every other Republican is doing. Admitting that the unpopular and unsuccessful war in Iraq was unpopular and unsuccessful, but then saying it was because we didn't spend enough money or troops on it and not because it was a bad idea in the first place. This of course is ignoring how unpopular, unsuccessful and already expensive it was, but then our conservatives don't care too much about actually being conservative or learning from their mistakes.

'Oh, yes, I used to be for that but now, I’m for this.’ Is that the way we want to elect presidents?

Yes. I should hope sane people that learn from their mistakes be the ones leading this country.

I really hope he keeps talking. We're up to: he wants to get rid of the minimum wage and he supports the War in Iraq.

He also wants us to believe he's different from his brother. Tell us more.

 

[Plinko]

That immigration statement will go over like a lead balloon in the GOP primaries. He'll get booed right out of the arena.

 

[Laconic]

How much did it cost Hillary?

This can't be real life.

The Republicans might be even more out of touch with their constituency than the Democrats.

And, as much as I am Pro-Democrat - for the simple fact of their not being Republican - that takes A LOT.

This is great.

 

[NumberTwo]

I like Marco Rubio's foreign policy better

https://twitter.com/TeamMarco/status/597113893975130113

These are the people are elected to govern us.

 

[RobotChant]

Got to do something, anything, to get in the news right Jeb.

The scary thing is he still polls well with republicans nationally and if it wasn't for his leanings about immigration reform, he would be doing even better.

 

[GreatestHits]

I like how this is supposed to be considered a surprise. What's his last name?

Got to do something, anything, to get in the news right Jeb.

Yep

 

[Ecotic]

I'm having flashbacks from 2008 all over again. This just reminds me of how awful Hillary was on this issue, and how Bush admitting this is useless politically. Pot can't call kettle black. Bernie Sanders was just on Face the Nation this morning touting his vote against it compared to Hillary.

 

[ivysaur12]

I like how this is supposed to be considered a surprise. What's his last name?

...says who?

 

[SolVanderlyn]

These are the people are elected to govern us.

God forbid they have a sense of humor

 

[GreatestHits]

...says who?

There was a thread created about it as if it was news. Or perhaps I am mistaken and you were just posting a mundane sentence about Jeb Bush?

Anyways I think it's impossible not to get political in this thread so I'll just say thank God someone like Bernie Sanders is actually making a run. I don't care that Hilary is going to be the next pres, I'm just glad to see Bernie up there. But anyway this is about Jeb. Just say NO to war, unless of course you are part of the war economy/stand to profit from war. In that case I'd vote for Bush and also I'd promptly off yourself (in an environmentally friendly way, please)

 

[kingkitty]

so...what's the big difference then?

he has a Spanish speaking wife?

 

[Siegcram]

God forbid they have a sense of humor

I doubt he's joking.

 

[Kusagari]

so...what's the big difference then?

he has a Spanish speaking wife?

He's sort of for immigration reform and is for Common Core.

That's it really.

 

[FiggyCal]

God forbid they have a sense of humor

I think it's pretty easy to forget how many innocent people die in our counter terrorism efforts. It's like when George Bush made a joke about looking for WMD's under oval office furniture or when Obama makes jokes about using drones. Or McCain singing "bomb Iran". Maybe it's not totally appropriate for him to joke about killing people -- especially at the expense of so many innocent ones. I'm assuming he'll either continue Obama's policies or probably go further even; I certainly don't want him to have a good laugh about it as he's bombing foreign countries.

It shows a total lack of concern for what our foreign policy actually means.

There was a thread created about it as if it was news. Or perhaps I am mistaken and you were just posting a mundane sentence about Jeb Bush?

Anyways I think it's impossible not to get political in this thread so I'll just say thank God someone like Bernie Sanders is actually making a run. I don't care that Hilary is going to be the next pres, I'm just glad to see Bernie up there. But anyway this is about Jeb. Just say NO to war, unless of course you are part of the war economy/stand to profit from war. In that case I'd vote for Bush and also I'd promptly off yourself (in an environmentally friendly way, please)

It's newsworthy because this man wants to be our president; not because it was supposed to be surprising or fun.

I do like me some Bernie Sanders though. Even if I don't agree 100% with his definition of socialism. He's got a lot of good ideas.

 

[Dark_AnNiaLatOr]

I'm grateful for Jeb's stance on immigration. When I heard him talk about it, he seemed very sincere and understanding of the subject, while trying not to offend some of the harsher tea party people at the event. I wish more people thought like him on this subject. That being said, I hope Hilary wins for her stance on immigration.

 

[GreatestHits]

It shows a total lack of concern for what our foreign policy actually means.

Yeah i'd go a little further and say it shows apathy towards the true outcomes of their actions. Jeb is saying he supports the whole charade

It is news. But it's also not surprising. Don't conflate the two.

 

[Zvonimir Boban]

I think it's pretty easy to forget how many innocent people die in our counter terrorism efforts. It's like when George Bush made a joke about looking for WMD's under oval office furniture or when Obama makes jokes about using drones. Or McCain singing "bomb Iran". Maybe it's not totally appropriate for him to joke about killing people -- especially at the expense of so many innocent ones. I'm assuming he'll either continue Obama's policies or probably go further even; I certainly don't want him to have a good laugh about it as he's bombing foreign countries.

It shows a total lack of concern for what our foreign policy actually means.

'If they were innocent, why did we bomb them?'

 

[kingkitty]

He's sort of for immigration reform and is for Common Core.

And funny enough, those are the two things that aren't gelling with a lot of vocal conservatives.

 

[adamsappel]

He's doing basically what every other Republican is doing. Admitting that the unpopular and unsuccessful war in Iraq Vietnam was unpopular and unsuccessful, but then saying it was because we didn't spend enough money or troops on it and not because it was a bad idea in the first place. This of course is ignoring how unpopular, unsuccessful and already expensive it was, but then our conservatives don't care too much about actually being conservative or learning from their mistakes.

Fixed for historical repetition.

 

[ivysaur12]

There was a thread created about it as if it was news. Or perhaps I am mistaken and you were just posting a mundane sentence about Jeb Bush?

Anyways I think it's impossible not to get political in this thread so I'll just say thank God someone like Bernie Sanders is actually making a run. I don't care that Hilary is going to be the next pres, I'm just glad to see Bernie up there. But anyway this is about Jeb. Just say NO to war, unless of course you are part of the war economy/stand to profit from war. In that case I'd vote for Bush and also I'd promptly off yourself (in an environmentally friendly way, please)

It is news. But it's also not surprising. Don't conflate the two.

 

[PopeReal]

So despite what a clusterfuck Iraq currently is and how many have died, he would still invade.

Smart.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

WELP.

 

[FollowTheWind]

Surprised to see so many comments against the Iraqi invasion, does everyone feel the same about it? That it shouldn't have happened or just it didn't work out?

 

[_Ryo_]

I dont understand. He admits it was a mistake, yet refuses to learn from it? What is the point of even acknowleding the mistake in the first place then?

 

[The Technomancer]

Surprised to see so many comments against the Iraqi invasion, does everyone feel the same about it? That it shouldn't have happened or just it didn't work out?

The Iraq invasion shouldn't have happened. It was based on faulty intelligence that basically everyone involved knew was faulty, and whatever bad stuff Saddam was up to in the region, well, its really hard to argue that things are now any better for our involvement.

 

[Sheroking]

Surprised to see so many comments against the Iraqi invasion, does everyone feel the same about it? That it shouldn't have happened or just it didn't work out?

A combination of bad intelligence and outright lies by the Bush administration got the United States into a decade long war, illegally, with a Country that neither sponsored terrorism against the United States nor had weapons of mass destruction (while the US was allied with Countries that both sponsor terrorism and have nuclear programs). It got 4500 American soldiers killed and incurred hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi casualties.

The post-Hussien political climate of Iraq helped give birth to ISIS, a far more extreme terrorist group that Al Queda ever was, and hundreds of thousands more will die at their hands.

There is not even the tiniest, smallest, quark-sized reason it should have happened.

 

[Siegcram]

Surprised to see so many comments against the Iraqi invasion, does everyone feel the same about it? That it shouldn't have happened or just it didn't work out?

Weirdly enough, most people unaffiliated with the military-industrial complex are uncomfortable with starting wars based on lies. Which is what happened in Iraq.

That it then proceeded to "not work out" doesn't necessarily help.

 

[electroshockwave]

I think there are probably still a contingent of people who feel that it was the right thing to do (rabble rabble defending America/freedom) and a statement like this is a way of playing to them.

The Iraq invasion shouldn't have happened. It was based on faulty intelligence that basically everyone involved knew was faulty, and whatever bad stuff Saddamn was up to in the region, well, its really hard to argue that things are now any better for our involvement.

And the faulty intelligence came from the Bush administration's desire to get involved in Iraq. They were looking for any excuse to sell the war and pushed intelligence agencies to find it.

 

[BocoDragon]

"Bush"

It does what it says on the tin.