Gawker put up an article accusing Louis CK of sexual misconduct

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withholding judgement for now, but for me at least, the number of people jumping to CK's defense is pretty shocking. i thought most of us were beyond needing a fucking rape kit to verify claims of sexual abuse

Christian Bale raped me in 2003. This new Christian Bale rape accusation story, which I just started right now, has as much substance to it as the rumor and hearsay around Louis CK. Hell, it might actually have more because I'm coming out and directly accusing him of doing it.

No, Christian Bale didn't really rape me.
 
Let's play "compare GAF's reactions to C.K. and Cosby allegations and see who gets the benefit of the doubt".

There is no comparison. There is a mountain of evidence against Cosby including civil suits that were settled out of court.

There's only two stories against C.K. and the source isn't exactly reputable. No one is excusing his behavior if true but there's not enough evidence to say. You have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
Can't really decide anything for certain, but dude definitely has some darkness in him (like any comedian). I mean Jesus look at the material on his show, has gotten progressively darker in content since the first season, dude has some demons. Last episode was some legit through the looking glass exploration of his subconscious, with some certifiably spooky imagery. Sure that stuff could've just been made up for the sake of "art" or whatever, but I have a feeling a lot of his show's content is pretty autobio. Okay maybe not seeing a homeless person being decapitated by a truck...

This reads like a Mega64 bit. Did you hear Louis CK has demons???

Quick, we need a photoshop of Louis with 'damaged' on his forehead as a tribute.
 
Let me know when someone is pressing charges. Until then, so what? We're only getting this one guy's secondhand account, HIS narrative of something he didn't witness, and he is obviously pretty eager to milk it for all it's worth. Why the email to CK and why involve Gawker rather than, oh I dunno, calling the police? Because it's not as serious as it's being made to sound, it's an embellishment.
 
withholding judgement for now, but for me at least, the number of people jumping to CK's defense is pretty shocking. i thought most of us were beyond needing a fucking rape kit to verify claims of sexual abuse.


Junior needs to read this:

Innocent until proven guilty, ffs


According to your logic, necro, whoever is claiming to have been sexually raped or abused is verified until proven wrong?

I'll be the first guy to condemn somebody who has done such a terrible thing. I don't particularly like Louis, I think he's ok. But as harsh as it may sound, we can't legally or publicly burn metaphorical witches based on fucking hearsay. Lives have been destroyed because of this.
 
While blocking the entrance, did he say "Yeah tell me about Libya"...

...I'm sorry.

I feel like such a patriarchal asshole for thinking "Well at-least he didn't pin someone down and forcibly sex them", I just like the guy's output too much to dismiss him entirely. :/
 
Both of these stories are like some of his material on stage, or his show. For some reason I laughed when I read the bit about him blocking a door while masturbating. I'm horrible, and I hope it's not true.
 
A year ago, a friend told me a similar story about Louis whipping it out in front people in an elevator or something like that. She heard it from some Hollywood friends. I didn't want to believe it, and just chalked it up to being a random industry rumor.

So either the rumor/urban legion is still going on or this is actually a thing. Unless someone actually steps up and accuses him proper, I don't know if I can take these claims seriously.

But that's a problem in its self, anyone who publicly makes claims against Louie will get torn apart, because everyone loves Louie.
 
People are jumping to his defense because there's no proof, literally no proof, of any of it and Gawker isn't above publishing bullshit rumors for clicks. The Cosby thing is different because there was a history there and actual real people accused him. If this was in a reputable paper or news show that's one thing, Gawker isn't those things.

This is "he said she said" only without the "he" or "she." There's literally no sourcing going on.

lmao, you're shocked the majority aren't exactly willing to brand someone a fucking rapist(one of the most detestable things a person can be) with literally no proof, and from a shitty rag like Gawker? Thank fucking god people like you aren't in charge of anything

jesus christ.

and of course i quote the wrong person!
 
, he said, pettily.

Oh, please. He completely ignored my argument. If he's going to engage me, only to disengage later, what value was there to be had? I was genuinely interested in his response, so I could understand his outlook and perhaps improve my own (since I believe there is some truth in his statements), but he then chose to disappoint me. Presumably because he didn't have a response. I don't like wasting my time with milquetoasts.

do you think oj simpson is really innocent of murder? or that the cop who choked eric garner to death didn't break the law since he wasn't prosecuted?

legality != morality

You're assuming the justice system is perfect, which it isn't, and I never claimed it was. Yet, in those cases, we have evidence that suggests the result of the system is wrong. Simpson's behaviour before and after the trial lends evidence (my God, that stupid book he released), and for Eric Garner's death, that video is indisputable. But we have no authority to judge them, as we are ordinary civilians without due process. While I have no sympathy for either being burnt on the grill of public opinion, I still retain they shouldn't be. You can keep arguing otherwise, but I'll remember those that didn't deserve it, and I'll keep arguing right back. I've yet to hear any convincing argument to change my outlook.

And of course legality != morality; that's elementary, and hardly relevant. The legal system is always a step behind morality, but it aspires to be reflective of the morality of the community. And through due process, tries to reach a fair and accurate judgement. Neither of those things happen in public discourse, but it results in tangible punishment all the same.
 
Christian Bale raped me in 2003. This new Christian Bale rape accusation story, which I just started right now, has as much substance to it as the rumor and hearsay around Louis CK. Hell, it might actually have more because I'm coming out and directly accusing him of doing it.

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Regardless of the truth or not of it, the Gawker writer is acting really sleazy in the comments of his own article. Every time someone tells a story they overheard from a friend of a friend he's replying "wanna email me?"

That's not investigative journalism dickhead, that's just asking to talk to people who have heard a rumour.
 
I heard that Rod Stewart had swallowed so much semen that he had to be rushed to the hospital and have his stomach pumped. I've heard this multiple times from friends over the years. Hope it not true!

Quick someone get Rollingstone on the case.
 
lmao, you're shocked the majority aren't exactly willing to brand someone a fucking rapist(one of the most detestable things a person can be) with literally no proof, and from a shitty rag like Gawker? Thank fucking god people like you aren't in charge of anything

jesus christ.

and of course i quote the wrong person!

I would consider a murderer to be worse actually, but let's not compare shitty people to one another.

Oops just read you said "one of" my bad.
 
Linked in the article in the OP, but here it is.



IANAL but I think he would have to show the claims were false and, because he is a public figure, that Gawker made them with actual malice.

EDIT: actually, there wouldn't be a case since Gawker does not come out and accuse CK of anything. It simply mentions the rumors and allegations.

Show the claims are false because he is a public figure? How do you come to that conclusion? You're basically saying any tabloid or journalist could make up any old shit about anyone and that it would be the accused who has to disprove the journalist.

Its the other way around. If a journalist prints any potentially harmful information regarding someone, the honus is on them to be able to substantiate their claims. If for instance Louis feels he has been wronged in this instance, gawker would have to provide sufficient evidence to back their claim and would likely have to reveal their sources in court who would also have to verify their their information. Gawker can't print any random rumour that passes their desk and claim no responsibility for putting the rumour out there. It is up to them to verify sources and ensure that their sources are legitimate.

A lot of tabloids get away with gossip and misinformation because it is usually superficial or doesn't have the potential to damage a persons job prospects or personal life; but if you are alleging something as serious as sexual assault, you want to be pretty fucking certain you got it right; even if you did, unless it can be substantiated in court, no matter how true it maybe, you could be setting yourself up for litigation.

Not saying Louis CK didn't do what they claim, but its a very slippery slope to run an article suggesting he did.
 
I choose not to believe it. Judding from his stand-up routines I think he's smart enough to not do shit like that

Who knows. I think for a lot of rich people, you expect to get away with shit. There's a big, "Why can't I jerk off in front of you? I'm fucking Lous CK!" mentality that probably gets inflated when alcohol or weed is added.

As Kendrick would say, it's the yams.
 
Not giving this "story" a second thought until a more credible organization verify anything. Given Gawker's reputation for drama and BS, and the writer of the article begging for sources in the comments section, I won't be holding my breathe.
 
Christian Bale raped me in 2003. This new Christian Bale rape accusation story, which I just started right now, has as much substance to it as the rumor and hearsay around Louis CK. Hell, it might actually have more because I'm coming out and directly accusing him of doing it.

No, Christian Bale didn't really rape me.

I also know someone who was raped by Christian Bale. I can't go into much detail but one of my female friends says Bale walked up behind her and said "I'm gonna make you my Robin, bitch"

I have it on good authority (friends in the biz)
 
Oh, please. He completely ignored my argument. If he's going to engage me, only to disengage later, what value was there to be had?

No, I didn't ignore it. I didn't agree with it. I don't have to quote the entirety of a post to prove that I read it all, especially when the post in question essentially does nothing more than detail the difference of opinion that prompted the discussion in the first place. And once we both determined the point at which we weren't going to come to an agreement, I ended the argument. There was an attempt to find common ground, and it failed. If you found no value in in that, that's on you. It appears other people might have found some value in the exchange between us, which is at least something.

jaffaboy said:
Innocent until proven guilty, ffs

And some didn't.
 
Yeah these stories seem pretty vague. There's literally no proof.. there's not even a real quote from the alleged victims. This whole story is basically "so I heard this story from a friend of a friend."

You would think if Louis CK was so willing to whip it out so easily, somebody you have sued by now.. or at least really come out with info.. not a vague description.

I don't know the guy personally but it always seemed like he was more family oriented.. Plus with the success of his career, you would think he could get any chick he wanted and really wouldn't have to just whip it out
 
I also know someone who was raped by Christian Bale. I can't go into much detail but one of my female friends says Bale walked up behind her and said "I'm gonna make you my Robin, bitch"

I have it on good authority (friends in the biz)

A guy I know told me that he has a female friend who once saw Christian Bale force a roomful of women to watch him masturbate while he sang the Batman theme song, and when anyone tried to leave he would block the exit and say, "My dick is the hero that Gotham deserves!"

I'm submitting an article about it to Gawker as we speak.
 
Junior needs to read this:




According to your logic, necro, whoever is claiming to have been sexually raped or abused is verified until proven wrong?

I'll be the first guy to condemn somebody who has done such a terrible thing. I don't particularly like Louis, I think he's ok. But as harsh as it may sound, we can't legally or publicly burn metaphorical witches based on fucking hearsay. Lives have been destroyed because of this.


did you actually read anything that i posted

i explicitly stated that i am withholding judgement until these claims can be either verified or discredited. the gawker article in question also says this, actually

"according to my logic," accusations like these shouldn't be dismissed out of hand because it's entirely possible that they have merit
 
No, I didn't ignore it. I didn't agree with it. I don't have to quote the entirety of a post to prove that I read it all, especially when the post in question essentially does nothing more than detail the difference of opinion that prompted the discussion in the first place. And once we both determined the point at which we weren't going to come to an agreement, I ended the argument. There was an attempt to find common ground, and it failed. If you found no value in in that, that's on you. It appears other people might have found some value in the exchange between us, which is at least something.

I misinterpreted the intent of your style of quotation, then, and I apologise. We have a difference of opinion, but I still feel it's a narrow divide. Mostly semantic, as we both feel a need to refrain from judgement without evidence. Yet few things disturb me more than the effects of the unfettered court of public opinion. It can make a villain of a saint.

Though to be fair...we're unlikely to see Louis canonised by the Pope.
 
Christian Bale raped me in 2003. This new Christian Bale rape accusation story, which I just started right now, has as much substance to it as the rumor and hearsay around Louis CK. Hell, it might actually have more because I'm coming out and directly accusing him of doing it.

No, Christian Bale didn't really rape me.

disgusting! i wonder if christian bale can sue?? lives have been ruined because of this
 
Would not surprise me at all really. Love the guy and his shows. Getting your dick out in front of strangers is one thing i mean i ran around with my pants down at a festival while people where cheering. But blocking the door and forcing people to watch you masturbate ... Thats just a step too far even if you're Louie.
 
The "doesn't sound like something he'd do" comments are hilarious. As if anybody here knows him personally. Might as well say "i enjoy this mans comedy and public persona so la la la la"
 
The "doesn't sound like something he'd do" comments are hilarious. As if anybody here knows him personally. Might as well say "i enjoy this mans comedy and public persona so la la la la"

The ironic thing is judging by the nature of his comedy persona and his some of the things on his show, this seems exactly like something he would do.

The style of his humor doesn't mean he did of course.
 
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