AMD Radeon Fury X Series | HBM, Small Form Factor And Water Cooling | June 16th
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jfoul
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Here's a video with an interesting discussion about the Radeon 390X. David Kanter thinks it will have 8gb HBM, and the GPU based on Tonga. He's held Fiji in his hands, and seems to be holding info back of course.
Tech Report Date: 5.15.15
Tech Report Date: 5.15.15
I just got done watching that. The part about David having it in his hands and that 4GB not being likely is interesting.
This whole leaks and rumors show is giving me a lot of flashbacks to before the 290X launched. Most rumors indicated that it would come short of the 780/Titan while only a few showed the 290X beating those. As it turned out the "crazier" rumor was right after all. I'm still skeptical about the 390X beating the Titan X, but I'd welcome a pleasant surprise.
jfoul
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Cheeseman Battitude
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No RF connector? How the fuck am I supposed to connect it to my black& white TV?
that was interesting
Felix Lighter
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I can't imagine there wouldn't be fans on the radiator.
It probably will be similar to most AIO coolers: fan is attached to the radiator and you either use it as in our outtake.
I'm currently watching the entire show, and they touched on many interesting things [for example, price of 14/16nm finfet wafer]. Thanks for recommending it.
pettson3816
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Would it be really unlikely that this card has similar benchmark results to the Titan X and a cost of 600-700 usd? If that is the case i'm going team red next time for sure.
TitanX is priced high for professional users, but Nvidia promotes it a lot for a gaming. In reality, that card costs $350 [or even less] to be produced.
dgrdsv
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If only production costs would be the sole part of a videocard cost structure...
it will probably be better than a gtx 980 and cost around the same price (for a guess looking at past amd released) wether it matches a titan x remains to be seen.
It could still be, but if it was, it would say the "most powerful" instead of "most advanced".
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Theonik
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Probably. If it is, nVidia will probably re-release the Titan X as a GTX 980Ti at a lower price as it should have been.
Edit:
Powercolor is a Taiwanese card OEM. Just a typo.
They're awake. and from what I can see, they're selling their midrange cards for $500, their value midrange for $350, their high end for $1000 and their midrange "premium" cards for $700.
value = 970
mid = 980
mid premium = 980 Ti
High = Titan
(the rest of the GPUs are not worthy of gaffers. They are garbage.)
Those are some awesome margins for nVidia on mid and higher cards. Really awesome. Value and below GPUs are priced more reasonably, though still pretty high.
Theonik
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Well this is in part because a couple of generations ago nVidia decided to start selling mid cards in their high bracket and introduce new 'silly' brackets on which they sell what used to be their high end cards (500-600 bracket sold for 1000)
They're unlikely to stop doing that as long as AMD continues not to bring on the heat and as long as there are people that still buy these cards.
It's a very unfortunate situation for gamers.
Edit: Also a 980Ti would be closer to a discounted High than a mid premium since they basically are stopgap cards derived from Titan.
HazySaiyan
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Just an aside, does anybody here use RadeonPro? I have a 7950 in my rig ATM but I want to switch to NVidia for the Adaptive VSync as I absolutely can't stand screen tearing. Has anybody used the Dynamic VSync for RadeonPro, and is it any good? Cause if it is I might just reconsider and stick with AMD.
BossDarkseid
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So....my computer died a few days ago.
Our "old" computer is doing me for the rest of the course I'm on and for a few months at the start of Uni....I'm mainly waiting for Skylake to be out but...in terms of GPU...seems like 390x might be a helluva thing to save up for/work towards.
I want to make the jump from 1080p to 2k or 4k ( the monitors seem sooo expensive though) and the boasts of 390x on 4k seem too good to be true. Also previously we had 7970s in Xfire and tbh...partly because of the games we play but also other reasons but I never felt like I saw the fruits of the labour as it were. I'd rather get a batshit insane card like the 390x than have to run stuff in SLI but I also...generally prefer Nvidia.
Which is weird because a year ago (or just under) my laptop's GPU killed itself while I was playing Borderlands and it was a 680m or something like that.
Please be good AMD.
And include regular/good driver support.
Our "old" computer is doing me for the rest of the course I'm on and for a few months at the start of Uni....I'm mainly waiting for Skylake to be out but...in terms of GPU...seems like 390x might be a helluva thing to save up for/work towards.
I want to make the jump from 1080p to 2k or 4k ( the monitors seem sooo expensive though) and the boasts of 390x on 4k seem too good to be true. Also previously we had 7970s in Xfire and tbh...partly because of the games we play but also other reasons but I never felt like I saw the fruits of the labour as it were. I'd rather get a batshit insane card like the 390x than have to run stuff in SLI but I also...generally prefer Nvidia.
Which is weird because a year ago (or just under) my laptop's GPU killed itself while I was playing Borderlands and it was a 680m or something like that.
Please be good AMD.
And include regular/good driver support.
jfoul
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Date： June 3, 2015, Wednesday
Press Conference Reception: 9:30 a.m.
Press Conference: 10:00 a.m.-11:00 a.m.
Venue：BELLAVITA (B1 Floor)
Address:No. 28 Song Ren Road, Xinyi District, Taipei, 110)
dgrdsv
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1080p is 2K.
Bye AMD.
ohyouagain
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Steep price.
ThoseDeafMutes
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If it it does outperform Titan X that's not necessarily unreasonable, but I'm unsure if the market would accept that as the price point.
Ricky Ricardo
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LOLno
Azzurri
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I mean, it does act as a heater too, so at least you get added value in the Winter.
AMD trying to ape Nvidia is going to be their fnal nail in the coffin. The market perception is such that they need to be significantly cheaper (or offer significantly better value). If it's going to trade blows and cost as much as the Titan X for one-third the frame-buffer? AMD execs smoking something.
ThoseDeafMutes
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That guy who goes into every graphics card thread to ask why they want a 970 instead of a 290/X probably would.
Theonik
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$849 seems like a bad price for this card even if it outperforms the Titan X unless the difference is very significant. AMD should be trying to aggressively out-price nVidia at this point in the game imo. At $849, nVidia can, and probably will release a 980Ti to counter the small price-gap over the Titan X, and could even out-value them with such a card.
At the same time, maybe AMD is trying to get as much money as possible out of this card before the inevitable price skirmish and nVidia's next get cards in 6 months or so.
At the same time, maybe AMD is trying to get as much money as possible out of this card before the inevitable price skirmish and nVidia's next get cards in 6 months or so.
Still cheaper than a Titan X and very close (or perhaps even faster).
I'd say this is a good price, and no doubt lower end cards will be priced competitively as well (the 390 / 380X / 380).
Hopefully that will make Nvidia reconsider some of their GPU pricing, the 960 is way too expensive for what it is but I know market tolerance decides what is the price and not the actual specs.
Will there be a cheaper alternative? Will the 380x feature HBM or do we even know anything about the lower tier cards at this point?
LiquidMetal14
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I don't understand why some are being cynical if the price is still cheaper than nvidia's higher end GPU and perform similarly or better then AMD should be applauded. I am all open for competition to flourish and have not had an AMD piece drive my rig for the last few years but that doesn't mean that I am not interested in seeing what they offer or have closed the door on ever getting another set of GPUs from them.
McHuj
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Allegedly just rebrands for the lower cards. Hold in your excitement, please.
I'm simply saying what the market wants. I dont want AMD to go away, trust me. But having a similarly performing card ("trade blows") with a smaller frame-buffer and AMD name doesnt instill that much confidence that people will buy this in droves.
Having said that, fudzilla is all over the place (as usual).
Fiji is 4GB
No wait, its 8GB
No it's 4GB
No it's 8GB
Much faster
Trade blows
Much cheaper
$849
I'll wait for a more trust worth source like videocardz or 3dcenter or sweclockers.
That supposedly is the $850 card according to fudzilla. Unless I'm just reading the article wrong.
TaintedHotSauce
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It'll likely blow away the Titan X in compute performance. The trade-off with Maxwell was FP64 performance. Lower power consumption partly due to removing FP64 support from the dies.
Now what I don't understand, and maybe someone more knowledgeable can answer: What does all this extra bandwidth that HBM provides actually do for us? We already know that it'll reduce power consumption, board size, but it doesn't seem like current video cards are currently bandwidth starved.
Now what I don't understand, and maybe someone more knowledgeable can answer: What does all this extra bandwidth that HBM provides actually do for us? We already know that it'll reduce power consumption, board size, but it doesn't seem like current video cards are currently bandwidth starved.
380x will likely be re-badged 290x with a tiny core clock bump.