The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c
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Xamtheking
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Guys, what if the singularity wasn't created by Eddie killing himself....
What if it was created by Jay Garrick?
Or Vandal Savage?(Thus helping to set up plot for Legends)
What if it was created by Jay Garrick?
Or Vandal Savage?(Thus helping to set up plot for Legends)
TTOOLL
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You may have something here, sir, I think. This show messes up with my head completely.
RellyRell28
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AoS is how you do a season finale. They had a big cliffhanger too
PhoncipleBone
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Well, the season is on sale for $30 on Google Play right now. Still $40 on iTunes, but it goes on sale frequently there.
GraceflAnger
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What a finale! That's how you finish a season strong and hype everyone for the next!
I'm imagining Thawne's inner monologue when Flash came through and busted his machine was "Oh no you did not just do that?!" I also find most time travel stories like this really bring out the disgusting selfish nature of even those you consider heroes.
Everybody "Oh hey Barry, you know if you go back and change just one thing it will totally screw the here and now and we would all be changed, you may not know us and hey some of us may not even be alive, who knows, you are basically royally screwing with all of us."
Barry "I don't care about you all, I GOTTA SAVE MY MOM!!!"
Everybody "Well screw you too buddy"
Everybody "Oh hey Barry, you know if you go back and change just one thing it will totally screw the here and now and we would all be changed, you may not know us and hey some of us may not even be alive, who knows, you are basically royally screwing with all of us."
Barry "I don't care about you all, I GOTTA SAVE MY MOM!!!"
Everybody "Well screw you too buddy"
This episode is one of the reasons I hate time travel stuff ... I have to hope they'll fix this next season. Clearly, if RF never existed, he couldn't have killed Barry's mom, and, once again, the season didn't happen. Hopefully, they have an explanation as to why everything didn't reset.
the assault on arkham design is probably my favorite design of hers
would love to see Danielle Panabaker in that costume, no lie.
Eddie created a paradox when he killed himself, so basically he fucked things even more. Time is trying to 'fix' things basically by erasing that timeline out of existence.
And I'll take AoS's cliffhanger over the Flash's any day. AoS wrapped up a lot of plot points and the cliffhanger was such that it would set up more plot points while still technically being linked to season 2. I dislike cliffhangers where they more or less will determine the outcome of a lot of the season's plot points.
That being said, both excellent shows, both excellent finales. Had AoS not raised the bar so much last week, I think the Flash's finale would definitely be the best finale of any show this year.
After watching AoU, I need to go back and watch Winter Solider (I know, I know. Don't kill me.) and need to figure out where to start with AoS.
Xamtheking
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Also, guys:
Thawne visited Earth-2 at one point
Think about that
Thawne visited Earth-2 at one point
Think about that
Jade Knight 08
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She reminds me of Illyria from Angel. Deja vu... Sort of.
Sorry, couldn't paste image on this tablet. Sooo annoying!
Entryhazard
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While Flashpoint Barry did this in pure selfishness, there is a point in saving Nora in this universe as she wasn't supposed to die at all, Thawne changed the timeline to begin with
Maybe he just saw him in the Speedforce?
Has there ever been a Flash storyline where Barry was in jail? I actually found that the most intriguing image from that sequence.
We both know there's only two reasons you want to see that costumethe assault on arkham design is probably my favorite design of hers
would love to see Danielle Panabaker in that costume, no lie.
Eddie created a paradox when he killed himself, so basically he fucked things even more. Time is trying to 'fix' things basically by erasing that timeline out of existence.
Also they made it a point to show Eddies body getting sucked up into the wormhole so definitely something going on there. Eddie is The Master confirmed.
Closing the blackhole is just a nice set piece for next season.
Most other plotlines have been closed.
She reminds me of Illyria from Angel. Deja vu... Sort if.
I can kind of see that. She looks good as killer frost though. Wonder when We'll see it come to fruition.
Xamtheking
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And maybe Wells has a thing for tall, imposing black men
JoeXWells 5ever
He knew Rip Hunter, at least
START WORK ON THE NEW HYPE TRAIN IMMEDIATELYWe both know there's only two reasons you want to see that costume
Also they made it a point to show Eddies body getting sucked up into the wormhole so definitely something going on there. Eddie is The Master confirmed.
I agree with this guy. Can we not.
Nah I think from your post on that discussion should end.
Can't wait for next season. You have to believe we'll see Jay Garrick at some point.
Of course a Kryptonian would cheat by flying.
Anyway this episode was fantastic. Everyone delivered great performances even the dying mom. Even though this episode was low on action there was a lot of fuckary that made various moments either intense (like Barry choosing to only say goodbye to his mom) or aggravating (like Wells expressing his love and admiration for Sisko) or clowny (Well's petty promise to end the lives of everyone after he kills Barry.)
R.I.P. Best Thawne and Based Thawne.
TheGreatDirector
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Goddamn the potential Flash has now that parallel universes have opened up...
In the mere time Barry spent in the Speedforce we saw the Flash museum, Barry in jail, and Caitlin as Killer Frost. With the confirmation of multiple speedsters next season this further opens up the door for characters like Bart Allen and Wally West. This also means that characters we know now could e entirely different once Barry comes out of that black hole.
In the mere time Barry spent in the Speedforce we saw the Flash museum, Barry in jail, and Caitlin as Killer Frost. With the confirmation of multiple speedsters next season this further opens up the door for characters like Bart Allen and Wally West. This also means that characters we know now could e entirely different once Barry comes out of that black hole.
The Cowboy
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I think the likely idea is its a set piece to amp up Barry's power, all though its been inconsistent its generally considered slow in Arrowverse (mach 2 for time travel for example) - with this ending sequence and it being the start point for season 2 it will be a massive power level jump for Barry (god knows how fast he'd need to run to close it)..
The reason eddie killed himself is because of eobard and the sequence of events of until that point.
So everything before still exists but everything after is all messed up.
Entryhazard
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thus even what happened before
it's only natural that it tears a hole in reality.
I for one won't mind if the events of this season are somehow rewritten, we know some characters will remember what happened
Xamtheking
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Eddie got dim sum from a chinese place
I don't see how that's so hard to understand
None of us fucking know tbh
Wait! What? This actually happened?
Fair enough, that is true. I guess it just doesn't feel that way to me because, really, anything could happen at this point. Not sure why I feel a problem with it because this is why I've loved the Flash all season.
Can't wait for Season 2.
LumpOfCole
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The thing that Doc Brown warns about in BttF actually happens tonight
RF is a paradox though.
He's from a different timeline, everything regarding killing Barry's mom already happened. There's no reason why Eddie dying would affect any of that.
Not the image of her I've come across or was picturing her. Maybe it's just the non-comic versions I've seen like in Young Justice and Injustice: Gods Among Us. .
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Entryhazard
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The fact that he erased Eboard is pretty telling though
gundamkyoukai
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Ep was good and i expected a big cliffhanger .
Eddie killing him self i saw coming but all in all a good ep.
Eddie killing him self i saw coming but all in all a good ep.
True then I'm still confused I take it all back I'm being stupid.
TheGreatDirector
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That's what is throwing me off. The Thawne that would have descended from Eddie would be a completely different Eobard than the Wells one. Eddie's death must've triggered something entirely different in order for Wells to be "erased" from existence.
I agree. Eobard called Eddie his "insurance policy" which I always took to mean that Eddie was a temporal ripcord Eobard could always pull- by killing Eddie- to set himself back to a point before his plans are completely undone.
Maybe there's more to Eddie than just being a "coincidence" or maybe him being a "coincidence" allowed his actions to have a far reaching effect.
Deadly Joker
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Yup.
The Cowboy
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I'm just wondering what Eobard expected Cicso to do when Eddie shot himself, as soon as Eobard realised what was happening he said "Cisco, help me" - we know Cisco has some powers, can his powers do something to help him?.
Oh yeah it did. Static Shock was the bomb.
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