exmachina64
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It's tie-ins like this that make me wish stories could be edited when they're being collected into graphic novel form.
Marvels Secret Wars by Hickman & Ribic |OT| Everything ends... Everything begins
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It's tie-ins like this that make me wish stories could be edited when they're being collected into graphic novel form.
bengraven
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I thought a lot of these books would be a complete re-make of older stories but with new twists, so I'm glad to see there are some continuations of old stories.
Ultimate End feels like a continuation of Spider-Men but from a Miles-less Ultimate Universe. The whole "616 TALKS LIKE THIS and 1610 talks like this". It's what made me realize we had a mixed world.
Spider-verse and
And thank you Planet Hulk for giving us a
Thor.
I'll be sticking with these books until the end.
EDIT: Ooooh, okay, see the explanation of the Ultimate End thing. You know Young U Tony is going to become canon Tony though...
Ultimate End feels like a continuation of Spider-Men but from a Miles-less Ultimate Universe. The whole "616 TALKS LIKE THIS and 1610 talks like this". It's what made me realize we had a mixed world.
Cool to see that the 616 guys are stuck there. Tony vs. Tony. Spider-man patrolling the city even though it's a weird to him. I'm actually really liking it. I just don't get how they figure the weird portal thing from Spider-Men had anything to do with the incursions.
Spider-verse and
U Jess Drew and British Spider-man are still together and in a PParker-less 616 NY. Poor Gwen hanging out in public housing.
And thank you Planet Hulk for giving us a
Magneto
I'll be sticking with these books until the end.
EDIT: Ooooh, okay, see the explanation of the Ultimate End thing. You know Young U Tony is going to become canon Tony though...
Spider Verse is interesting.
It seems the gang had their memories altered since they keep saying they all look familiar and how did Gwen end up in 616? And where's Pete?
And yeah, it's highly likely
Ultimate Tony is gonna be the Iron Man in ANAD Avengers, funny enough, he's the less douchey character in Ultimates.
Also, reread Ms. Marvel 15. Is her comic the only one that doesn't have the "There is only Secret Wars" thing at the end?
Coriolanus
Banned
Indeed. What makes 616 Tony interesting is the fact that he's a walking insecure alcoholic shitstain. 1610? Sentient Brain Cancer! Bah.
Huh. Would they be crazy enough to keep 1610 Cap around?
Huh. Would they be crazy enough to keep 1610 Cap around?
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
we dont need anymore asshole steves.
Man... we agree on almost everything. Except... well, you know.
Alcoremortis
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At least it's better than the original version where all his nervous tissue was BRAIN?
(that was one time in comics when I just stopped reading and laughed my head off for the next few minutes)
Napoleonthechimp
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Didn't that turn out to be an infinity gem lodged in his brain?
BKatastrophe
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Well, shit.
Fucking what?
Man, how long do you think it would take to read the entire Ultimate universe? Months, probably?
My friend did it in a bit under a month. If you have Marvel Unlimited it should be pretty easy to get everything.
Edit: He said it is all up on Unlimited and he used this guide.
http://www.comicbookherald.com/the-...guide/ultimate-marvel-universe-reading-order/
Napoleonthechimp
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You heard right. Comic books *shrugs*
BKatastrophe
Member
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Coriolanus
Banned
Hmhm. Doesn't quite explain all the other brain cancers he had, but hey.
Unless you consider that it was his brain trying to give birth to the gem, in which case brb, gotta strangle an author.
That's cause there are still the Last Days books.
Everything that had "There is only Secret Wars" ended their runs.
This is excellent.
Which once again begs the question why they didn't get all of the Last Days books out before Secret Wars. It's like I'm reading and in the back of my head I know the character is probably dead.
This is a similar case for me for Spider-Gwen.
slightconfuse
Banned
Planet Hulk is off to a good start. Steve and devil dinsaur team up should be great.
Manmademan
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Spider Gwen is alive in secret wars tho
Technically, everyone is. 99% of them fell victim to the universes' collapsing.
bengraven
Member
The art in Spider-verse is really really bad, I do agree with you guys on that.
Spidey 616 is in the Ultimate universe so I guess Gwen and crew need to help clean up his world. I wonder if he has 616 Aunt May et all with him, since he talks about being stuck in the Ultimate NY and yet has family to take care of.
Oh and I think there's one more issue of Ms. Marvel left in the "this is how things end" part of the stories.
Oh and I think there's one more issue of Ms. Marvel left in the "this is how things end" part of the stories.
Manmademan
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Not in the same way.
Spider Gwen and the other five Spider People in Spider Verse can remember their previous lives just fine- they do not appear to be recreations, simulacrums, or copies as is the case with the rest of battleworld. The implication is that these are all the originals that managed to survive, but there's something interfering with their natural memories.
BKatastrophe
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Fucking comics
twozerotwo
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Finally got around to reading what I picked up this week.
Planet Hulk and Deadpool were great. Battleworld and Ultimate End were underwhelming.
I'm definitely still interested in keeping up all four but I'm hoping Ultimate End and Battleworld pick it up next issue.
Can't wait for Old Man Logan in a couple days.
Planet Hulk and Deadpool were great. Battleworld and Ultimate End were underwhelming.
I'm definitely still interested in keeping up all four but I'm hoping Ultimate End and Battleworld pick it up next issue.
Can't wait for Old Man Logan in a couple days.
bengraven
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It's kind of weird that Ultimate End doesn't really end any major story lines in the Ultimate universe so far. Miles is gone and the U Peter Parker isn't there, we still haven't seen the X-men yet. It's just more of a crossover between the U and 616 so far.
So I wonder which Hulk is 616. The one in Ultimate End or the one in Planet Hulk
.
So I wonder which Hulk is 616. The one in Ultimate End or the one in Planet Hulk
that meets Steve at the end of the issue...
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Neither id assume. Both are variants of doc green
shadyspace
Banned
Got around to Ultimate End
A portal? What? Everywhere else the domains have been portrayed as countries with normal borders. Is Bendis trapped in a broom closet?
The Silver
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So do we know who the baron or who lives in the New Xander region? Those must be some tough SOB's to be still standing while bordering the Deadlands and Perfection.
I'm guessing with the Infinity Gauntlet being set there it's filled with cosmic heavy hitters.
I'm guessing with the Infinity Gauntlet being set there it's filled with cosmic heavy hitters.
you are a baaaaaaaad person
MHWilliams
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None of them.
The only people who are actually their 616 counterparts are the Raft survivors (who we have yet to see), the Cabal, Doom, Strange, the Maker, and Miles. As far as we know, everyone else is a recreation.
It was apparently, now it's merged and that's why both sides are trying to unmerge it before Doom finds out.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Annihilus
PhoncipleBone
Banned
I thought he was on the other side of the shield, along with the zombies and Ultron horde.
I do need to read the rest of the stuff from this week still though. Only read A-Force, Planet Hulk, and Deadpool thus far from this week.
The Silver
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ah, I thought the annihilation wave was mixed in with the deadlands or something, didn't know they had their own region.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Wait, isnt new xandar on the same sides as the deadlands?
PhoncipleBone
Banned
It appears so, but there is some water separating them at least.
EDIT: And damn, Apocalypse controlling a large area of land. I guess Doom gave him so much land so he didn't feel so bad about being a chump.
The Silver
Member
Apocalypse's region used to be 4 seperate ones but he conquered them, Poccy knows how to game the system.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
All by the grace of Doom.
Just jealous this Tony didn't do something as dumb as Civil War.
Probably 5 actually, sinces he probably had one itsself beforse he went conquesring.
Vermillion
Banned
Read Deadpool's Secret Secret Wars, Planet Hulk, A-Force, and Spider-Verse this week. The first two were the best and tons of fun, who would've known that the Deadpool issue was the best SW tie in so far? Guess I have all of you to thank for that since I was going to pass on it originally. 
Beyond continuing those four, the only other tie-ins I'm interested in in the OP's list is Last Days of Ant-Man, X-Men '92, and 1872. I'll probably pick up more though if WOM is good for them.
Beyond continuing those four, the only other tie-ins I'm interested in in the OP's list is Last Days of Ant-Man, X-Men '92, and 1872. I'll probably pick up more though if WOM is good for them.
bengraven
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It was in Spider-Men, the Ultimate Spidey/616 Spidey crossover. It's how Peter came to the Ultimate universe. UTony took charge of it after that storyline, though USHIELD was aware.
Well it makes me wonder
because Cyclops and Storm look like the modern 616 characters and both Spidey and Cyclops were on the Raft. Plus, they obviously talk like 616.
Then again, Cyclops is a Phoenix now, so maybe it's just a version of him from recent times.
Then again, Cyclops is a Phoenix now, so maybe it's just a version of him from recent times.
How do you know this? Was it explained in any of the books so far, because I must have missed it.
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