Hideaki Anno predicts decline of anime in 5 to 20 years

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Enron

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And not a single tear was shed. 95% of post 2000s animes look like they recycled the same animations,
scenes, styles and faces over and over again.
I honestly thing you can just recut any modern anime with the same exact poses from earlier material.

You must not have watched any 90's anime.
 

javac

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Well the peak WAS evangelion to me anyway.. It's been declining since..
i'd realy love that new techs allow more creativity with limited budget, like the Giulty Gear Xrd tech for exemple. It could change everything.

I'd say that Evangelion was the start of the fall. Eva was crazy sales wise when it came out and blinded a lot of studios. It pretty much killed the (to be fair already declining) OVA format and set a precedence for more adult orientated anime on TV in a 26 episode format, the rise of late night anime. A lot of it however has to do with the bubble economy in Japan during 1986 and 1991 period. After the crash, which is known as the ‘lost decade’, Japan was hurt a lot.

When you look at the bubble economy, you see so many cult series and films that were released during that era, which had a lot to do with how more people had disposable income to spend on tapes and how this stopped once people become more conscious of their spending and funding.
 

KazenY2J

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And not a single tear was shed. 95% of post 2000s animes look like they recycled the same animations,
scenes, styles and faces over and over again. I honestly thing you can just recut any modern anime with the same exact poses from earlier material.
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Negator

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And not a single tear was shed. 95% of post 2000s animes look like they recycled the same animations,
scenes, styles and faces over and over again. I honestly thing you can just recut any modern anime with the same exact poses from earlier material.

I could have sworn I've seen this exact same type of argument in the mobile game thread.
 

Resilient

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Is it possible to have an anime thread on GAF without it turning into a repost of the same memes/trope/gigs?

How can anime die if we still got One Piece tho?
 

MattKeil

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Question is, will the fourth Eva movie make it out before anime collapses on top of it, burying it forever?
 

Aki-at

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But I've been watching more quality animes now since the mid-00s :(

With the birth rate and the conditions animators are facing though I can see how the industry will suffer long term unless the Western market picks up the slack within Japan.
 

Nickle

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I agree with him, but he did revolutionize the way we fap to 14 year old girls. He's not totally innocent in this decline.
 
Shocking news: anime is dead, nintendo is doomed omae wa mou shinde iru. Nothing to worry about niche audience medium gonna decline because stuff is only produced for said niche audience. Stuff like gundam and kids shows will still get produced for all eternity. Its the otaku driven niche shows that will fade out not anime in general imho.
 

Enron

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Shocking news: anime is dead, nintendo is doomed omae wa mou shinde iru. Nothing to worry about niche audience medium gonna decline because stuff is only produced for said niche audience. Stuff like gundam and kids shows will still get produced for all eternity. Its the otaku driven niche shows that will fade out not anime in general imho.

less onii-chan more robots stomping shit
 

bengraven

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Off topic, but I was just watching that Ghibli documentary on Netflix and I loved that moment where Miyasaki and his producer, for a joke, say that Anno should star in the Wind Rises.

It's almost like:

- We need someone who's not an actor, but can act.
- hahaha
- That person doesn't exist.
- ha...Anno...ha...
- Anno?
- Yes.
- That's a weird choice. He has a weird voice.
- Yeah. ha
- Anno.
- Yeah.
- You know, now I can't stop thinking about Anno. What about Anno?
- Should we call him?
 

Laputa_94

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At the end of the day if we still see the occasional shows like Gundam Unicorn and Space Battleship Yamato 2199 I'll be happy. Also Mr. Anno was never the most optimistic person in the world.
 

Sianos

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Characters like Rei pretty much gave a huge boost to the waifu movement.
It's really disappointing how it seems like the general public missed the "message" most of the characters in Evangelion are supposed to send.

The worst is when people complain the Shinji is "too fragile/feminine" and Asuka is "too brutish/masculine", when the character archetypes are merely swaps of typical anime fare of the hothead male lead and the fragile female lead. This is done to demonstrate how painful and psychologically harmful these archetypes really are without the implicit approval granted by men and women being "excepted" to be a certain way.
 

Mik2121

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When over half of the anime has a visual design that only caters a very specific part of the population and the amount of creepy (not in scary but... awkward) stuff keeps increasing, yeah, I can see why.
 

Crocodile

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What people want to believe: Anime is all loli trash so of course it deserves to "die"

What's actually happening: Wages and hours for many animators are likely not sustainable for the long run and the premium Blu-Ray/DVD anime market is producing diminishing returns. Adaptations to the streaming world have been happening but could be quicker and more extensive. There is less money being spent on all entertainment products regardless of their quality.

5 years for a major shake-up, whatever it is, seems like an absurdly short timeline. I can imagine big changes taking place in within the next few decades though
 
Shinji was a mistake. He's nothing but trash.
Worst protagonist I've ever seen.

Just hope there won't be a decline in manga, too. Gotta see how One Piece ends, whenever that is. Probably in like 20 more years haha
 

Soriku

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Gintama is the only anime worth watching right now. Everything else is trash.

Kuroko, Fate/Stay, Jojo. Those are the ones I'm watching now besides Gintama (taking a break from One Piece) and they're all good. I don't follow anime seasons that much, but there are probably other good shows airing right now.
 
What people want to believe: Anime is all loli trash so of course it deserves to "die"

What's actually happening: Wages and hours for many animators are likely not sustainable for the long run and the premium Blu-Ray/DVD anime market is producing diminishing returns. Adaptations to the streaming world have been happening but could be quicker and more extensive. There is less money being spent on all entertainment products regardless of their quality.

5 years for a major shake-up, whatever it is, seems like an absurdly short timeline. I can imagine big changes taking place in within the next few decades though

I fail to see how those statements are mutually exclusive. Nowadays the more frequently released anime IS either moe trash or "Teenagers save the world". You didn't make any kind of argument explaining any kind of connection between these two statements.
 

Armadilo

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Anime has a problem that most are the same and all have to do with High School , such a problem that it seems there's only one good anime each year. Was a long time since I watched anime as Attack on Titan brought me back then moved on to Parasyte :( it's over and done super good, but next year with get season 2 of AOT but then have to wait two more years for the third season :(
 
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Not dying, just downsizing to fit a niche audience I feel. To a guy like him, that would seem like death.

That's dying, though. Outside of some quality outliers, the anime industry has been moving harder and harder in the direction of appealing to otaku types because they'll happily buy Blu-rays and, more importantly, tons of merchandise.

That niche is not going to expand and has too little appeal outside of Japan to make it commercially viable.
 

Negator

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Anime has a problem that most are the same and all have to do with High School , such a problem that it seems there's only one good anime each year. Was a long time since I watched anime as Attack on Titan brought me back then moved on to Parasyte :( it's over and done super good, but next year with get season 2 of AOT but then have to wait two more years for the third season :(

If Attack on Titan is the bar for good anime, anime really is doomed.
 
I always thought once the otaku fanbase starts paying for merchandise a lot less, then anime as we know it might decline.

I don't know the average age of an otaku in Japan, but I think the older they get the less likely they have the time to spend money on anime.
 
And yet have any of the Asian countries in recent years had a fraction of the global cultural impact of Japan?

It seems more that Japan is Shrinking and homogenising, but the others at least globally are not filling the void.
 
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