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BOOM. Just asked that girl out to coffee!

I kiiiinda took the cowards way out, since I asked her over Facebook after I totally choked and didn't ask her in person, but the end result is the same, so whatever. I'm still super stoked.

A victory is a victory :)
 
A victory is a victory :)

Yep! That's exactly how I feel right now. Haha. I'm super excited. And she was really happy I asked her too, which feels really nice.

Really the only reason I feel slightly bummed I asked her on Facebook rather than face to face is because I feel like my friends might be like "Really?" But that doesn't bother me too much.
 
Ugh, the fuck was? This may not be the right place as this might not be related to mental health (except if this continues, i will go insane) but... eh, i'll make a thread for this if no one here has any idea.


Basically, i wake up with massive vertigo (the spinning sensation). Say, 500rpm, far more than i usually have if i have vertigo for some reason.
It stops if i shut my eyes tightly and focus but even then it feels leaving me queasy (for a long time) and drenched in cold sweat.
But no nausea. My brain say i'm going to vomit but i don't feel like it.
Have you had your blood pressure checked? Blood pressure is highest in the morning, and can cause nausea, vomiting, and vertigo.
 
I'm not feeling any different after about a week of taking my Vyvanase. I'm going to the doctor about it on Monday. My girlfriend hasn't noticed any changes either.

That's the best you can do. Be vocal about what drug works and what doesn't.
Docs aren't mind readers.
Have you had your blood pressure checked? Blood pressure is highest in the morning, and can cause nausea, vomiting, and vertigo.

Irony. My mom got transferred from a clinic to the ER for hypertension. The clinic gave her some drug. I don't know which one because the person who did the transfer papers had horrid handwriting. But the ER doc got her on another medicine since the ones she takes aren't doing enough, but they have those side-effects that you listed.

Obviously, she is going to a follow up next week.
 
The meat and potatoes of therapy, in my experience, is working on learning your behaviors and then gradually relearning / reconditioning them. Have the challenges your therapists put to you just been too much to confront given your ever-present anxiety? Have you brought this up with them and your psychiatrist? When you feel guilty for your inability to put yourself in uncomfortable situation do you feel like a "bad patient"? Is that what eventually motivates you to stop going? Have you ever brought those feelings up with your therapist?

Sorry for the flurry of questions, I just think it's very interesting. I by no means see you as someone who is hopeless, or who isn't right for therapy, so I think it's quite interesting to think about why it hasn't worked for you.

Also, I don't know anything about the specifics of your situation and I am not a doctor but I feel there must be other options if your current medications aren't working out for you. In fact, I was on those two exactly at one point, and when they stopped working for me I was able to find alternatives!

Yeah, I would try to force myself to do the things they asked me to and I just couldn't do it, then I'd feel guilty about it the next time I saw them. I haven't really discussed that with my psychiatrist, but I think my therapists got the idea, since I always had to tell them I couldn't do what they asked me to. With most of them it would get to the point that they would say something like "we can't make any progress unless you're willing to take some risks," and I never could, so it just never worked.

I don't know if I necessarily feel like a "bad patient," I just feel like I'm not really doing anything to help myself and so it's not really worth the time and money. I'm also just not very good at expressing my thoughts and feelings to strangers - well, to anyone really - especially verbally. They would usually do most of the talking since I never had a lot to say, and I often felt like they were leading me to certain conclusions that weren't necessarily true, whether they meant to or not, and I never really knew what to say to correct them, and I wasn't even sure they were wrong to begin with.

I certainly wouldn't mind giving other medications a try, but my psychiatrist told me he didn't think anything else would be better, so I don't really know what to say to that.
 
So I checked my grade for my c++ class, got an C. Boy was I relieved when I saw it. I got to thank gaffers and my brother for getting me that grade. I wish I've registered for physics class at a community college earlier. I need to knock physics with calc 1 and 2 down as soon as possible.
 
I had vertigo yesterday morning as well. Every time i woke up. How odd.
Today i'm just feeling a bit... woozy? EDIT nope, not the right word. Maybe?
In any case, i feel just fine later.
Not that random "don't feel good/feel good later" sounds like a good thing.

I would see a doctor immediately. Please.
Well, i sure will ask it once i get to a doctor.
My friend suggested i'd probably get in right away, i doubt that but, eh... I'll try to go on Monday, don't think there's any chance tomorrow.

Have you had your blood pressure checked? Blood pressure is highest in the morning, and can cause nausea, vomiting, and vertigo.

Blood pressure checked? Nah, don't think so.
To my list of things to ask. Going to be a long visit.

Not sure how this could be blood pressure-related though, considering this isn't everyday occurrence. I had this happen before, once, last month (just don't recall if it was early or late April). Once meaning three-days in a row, and afterwards i had no issues. Until Thursday morning.
And today is better than yesterday.

...

Can't say worrying about this makes me feel any better otherwise...
 
Oh man. Last night was maybe the happiest I've ever been ever. Was grinning from ear to ear. I barely got any sleep because I was just way too happy to sleep.
It's still so hard for me to believe that this girl actually likes me too. I have to keep going over things she's said and done in my head that prove that she likes me because it's just so hard for me to accept.

<3

I finally got over my fear and reached out to my college piano teacher, asking him if he'd be willing to look over some of my pieces. He said he'd be happy to so I'm mailing him two of the pieces you've heard ("Yearning", "Prelude to Peace") and one I'll link now.

Shattered Mind, a brutal look at the darkness inside our souls. Or something like that. I was just in a really bad place when I wrote it so it's much darker than the other two. And it's dedicated to our very own Bagels!

That was an incredibly compelling piece. The pain and distress was almost tangible. Thanks for sharing!

Also, glad to hear that you were able to contact your piano teacher! I hope good things come from it!

So I checked my grade for my c++ class, got an C. Boy was I relieved when I saw it. I got to thank gaffers and my brother for getting me that grade. I wish I've registered for physics class at a community college earlier. I need to knock physics with calc 1 and 2 down as soon as possible.

Congratulations on passing your class!

I've been getting help for severe depression and social anxiety, but nothing really seems to work. At my age(34), I don't feel like I can go on much longer. This might seem like a cry for help(and maybe it is) but my suicidal thoughts are getting stronger. It's as if it was meant to be, and my brain devises a plan to end my pathetic life once and for all. It's just not possible for me to live in a way where I avoid conflict and have a a conscience that constantly beats me down. Some people might feel better about themselves from reading this, and it's ok, but know that it won't cure your issues.

What kind of help have you been getting so far? Therapy? Medication?
I'm sorry to hear that nothing's worked so far. Even though you may feel like 34 is too late, you still have plenty of time to find some treatment that works for you and lead a fulfilling life. I'd really encourage you to hang in there and keep trying to find a treatment that works. Take care.
 
I also have an irrational fear of it feeling like a chore to people to hang out with me. I don't know why. I guess it's because I feel like I bore them at times, or that I'm not interesting enough. Part of it might be self fulfilling because those thoughts make me depressed and more silent or melancholy when I'm around friends. There's a lot of constantly fighting myself about whether or not I'm good enough for people. I think I am, but sometimes it doesn't seem like it.

It's like I lack substance as a person, but it's the type of substance that you need to get through life experiences, but after middle school I haven't really done much of consequence with myself because I don't find much that's interesting. I'm nice and I know that I have some fairly basic interests like listening to music, watching scary movies, going to concerts, Disneyland trips, etc. But there's more to being an interesting person than that. You need experience that shape you personality to make you distinguishable from other people. Outside of the base stuff I feel like a blank puppet, completely unfazed by everything that goes on around me as if I'm not actually part of the world. I don't know what to do and I feel like this is all my fault and it's tearing me apart, especially because this wasn't always the case. I do remember having substance and a personality at one point, back when I was really productive and had a ton of extracurricular activities like sports and stuff that I did.

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This is exactly how I feel. No advice I'm afraid.
 
Anyone else feel completely talent less? I feel like there are so many people who struggle and this does not down play their illness or suffering at all but at least they are GOOD at something. Growing up I thought I was at video games and in my group of friends I was, but I never really got good enough at a single game to be let's say tournament level. Smash and Halo I was close but I can't put in the hours these guys do for practice. I wanted to play other things.

Now I'm 27 and I really feel like I have no skills. Biking, skateboarding, photography, art, music, sports..(well i'm somewhat physically fit and good at sports but just good..never great), I'm horrible with numbers, have no clue about programming or web design, building things..(can't even put together Ikea furniture), and the list could go on and on.

I did well in school growing up and I have my bachelors degree and graduated with a 3.8 GPA, but I feel like the only thing I was ever good at was school. I can study, memorize, pass tests and write papers but there's no real world application. I cannot stand the thought that I am and always have been stupid and that's why I don't excel in anything.
 
Anyone else feel completely talent less? I feel like there are so many people who struggle and this does not down play their illness or suffering at all but at least they are GOOD at something. Growing up I thought I was at video games and in my group of friends I was, but I never really got good enough at a single game to be let's say tournament level. Smash and Halo I was close but I can't put in the hours these guys do for practice. I wanted to play other things.

Now I'm 27 and I really feel like I have no skills. Biking, skateboarding, photography, art, music, sports..(well i'm somewhat physically fit and good at sports but just good..never great), I'm horrible with numbers, have no clue about programming or web design, building things..(can't even put together Ikea furniture), and the list could go on and on.

I did well in school growing up and I have my bachelors degree and graduated with a 3.8 GPA, but I feel like the only thing I was ever good at was school. I can study, memorize, pass tests and write papers but there's no real world application. I cannot stand the thought that I am and always have been stupid and that's why I don't excel in anything.

I don't understand this. You say you have a 3.8 GPA and are good at school. I am dyslexic, I would wish I was good in school so I could get a degree. How is that not applicable for the real world? What!?

You say you're good at sports even if you are not great. That's awesome. You don't need to be great or excel. Nobody will love you or like you more if you are a master of something.



Here is a great TED talk called "The first 20 hours - How to Learn anything" - He deconstructs the golden "10,000 hour of mastery rule" and talks about learning things you want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MgBikgcWnY


But is that really your problem? That you feel talentless is your red flag. It has nothing to do with the skills you have or don't have. Be true to yourself, not to the idea in your head which says you need this or that to feel adequate.

I wish I had your skillset. And I have been down that road of wanting to get talent. It's not a satisfying road because it's based on evaluating in contrast to everyone and grading your own performance as bad, okay, good, great, perfect. All that is horseshit. Fuck it and burn that fire. It's a major crutch and a hinderance to just being with yourself.

Tons of the greatest people you have met, the nicest people to be around, are not masters of anything. You don't define them by how good they are at assembling IKEA furniture or the amount of languages they know.
 
I don't understand this. You say you have a 3.8 GPA and are good at school. I am dyslexic, I would wish I was good in school so I could get a degree. How is that not applicable for the real world? What!?

You say you're good at sports even if you are not great. That's awesome. You don't need to be great or excel. Nobody will love you or like you more if you are a master of something.



Here is a great TED talk called "The first 20 hours - How to Learn anything" - He deconstructs the golden "10,000 hour of mastery rule" and talks about learning things you want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MgBikgcWnY


But is that really your problem? That you feel talentless is your red flag. It has nothing to do with the skills you have or don't have. Be true to yourself, not to the idea in your head which says you need this or that to feel adequate.

I wish I had your skillset. And I have been down that road of wanting to get talent. It's not a satisfying road because it's based on evaluating in contrast to everyone and grading your own performance as bad, okay, good, great, perfect. All that is horseshit. Fuck it and burn that fire. It's a major crutch and a hinderance to just being with yourself.

Tons of the greatest people you have met, the nicest people to be around, are not masters of anything. You don't define them by how good they are at assembling IKEA furniture or the amount of languages they know.

Maybe I should elaborate a little. My degree is in criminal justice and I have not done a single thing with it since I graduated in 2010. I realized a little too late that this was not the road I wanted to go down. Start of my senior year but Crim is very focused and It would have been like starting over to switch majors so I just graduated. I feel as though my GPA has no meaning and I lack common sense. Growing up I always assumed being book smart was a good thing and would take me places, but now I feel like common sense and applying these skills and ideas are much more important. I now work a minimum wage job and have been for the last 3 years.

The sports thing yea..I'm ok. Especially volleyball which I played in college and play league now, but It's not an everyday thing and It does not seem to help because it's not anything I can use to make a living or earn any money for that matter. I have a whole host of other issues including self esteem, so maybe those feelings contribute to feeling like I have no skills or talent.
 
Maybe I should elaborate a little. My degree is in criminal justice and I have not done a single thing with it since I graduated in 2010. I realized a little too late that this was not the road I wanted to go down. Start of my senior year but Crim is very focused and It would have been like starting over to switch majors so I just graduated. I feel as though my GPA has no meaning and I lack common sense. Growing up I always assumed being book smart was a good thing and would take me places, but now I feel like common sense and applying these skills and ideas are much more important. I now work a minimum wage job and have been for the last 3 years.

The sports thing yea..I'm ok. Especially volleyball which I played in college and play league now, but It's not an everyday thing and It does not seem to help because it's not anything I can use to make a living or earn any money for that matter. I have a whole host of other issues including self esteem, so maybe those feelings contribute to feeling like I have no skills or talent.

why did you never participated in those activities? lack of time? focus?

edit: self esteem is a big issue if you want to participate in any social activity, do you have social anxiety?
 
so i've been on antidepressants for two days (SSRIs) and i swear i'm getting some kind of side effects already. feeling very jittery and a bit disconnected from things. is this normal? it could just be placebo/psychosomatic.
 
Maybe I should elaborate a little. My degree is in criminal justice and I have not done a single thing with it since I graduated in 2010. I realized a little too late that this was not the road I wanted to go down. Start of my senior year but Crim is very focused and It would have been like starting over to switch majors so I just graduated. I feel as though my GPA has no meaning and I lack common sense. Growing up I always assumed being book smart was a good thing and would take me places, but now I feel like common sense and applying these skills and ideas are much more important. I now work a minimum wage job and have been for the last 3 years.

The sports thing yea..I'm ok. Especially volleyball which I played in college and play league now, but It's not an everyday thing and It does not seem to help because it's not anything I can use to make a living or earn any money for that matter. I have a whole host of other issues including self esteem, so maybe those feelings contribute to feeling like I have no skills or talent.

1) Having a degree is still great. Most people I know, don't do what they are educated in. It's funny how the world works, but I think it really says something about how defined and broad people are.

2) When you find out what you really want to do, you can work towards a Master in something related? What sort of courses can can you do to be able to jump over into another field?


3) Coursea is amazing: You can become skilled and learn a shit for free: https://www.coursera.org/ < some of them even give ETSC points now (cost a bit money to get a cert for that thou)
Want to learn to code? Okay, http://www.codecademy.com/ < free, free.

Want to learn Japanese? Okay; Namasensei is ready to call you a fucking bitch while drunk as he teaches you japanese: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZEA54VJEdE&list=PL9987A659670D60E0&index=2 < Now you can be a real weeabo.

Or want to play video games while doing it? Join Kotoba Miners and learn Japanese inside Minecraft. Shit is banans: http://www.kotobaminers.org/


Set this to your homepage when you open a browser: https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/

4) Art of Manliness has a great category of skills you can learn, or at least get you started in. cooking, hunting, fishing, music, fixing things, repairing things, building things; http://www.artofmanliness.com/category/manly-skills/


5) Build your own computer. Restore a car. Go buy some some ingredients and some cloth and make some meals for the homeless and stitch some clothes for them.
You got this man.


6) And if I knew you in real life I would drag you to a martial arts academy. I promise it will change your life. You will get the shit kicked out of you and you will feel amazing. The camraderie you can get in such a place is very rare. You will become hardened, gain self esteem, and know you can do some wooping and defend yourself. It's a vehicle for self development in all aspects of life. And at 27 your at a good age to start. It usually takes 5-10 years to get a black belt in Judo with consist training, 10-15 years in BJJ. You got this. Everybody is super scared in the beginning, but then you find out that all those savages are the nicest guys. They get all the fear, insecurity and alpha-brain-bro complex kicked out of them. They are usually more relaxed than people on the street.


7) http://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/ Dan Carlins Hardcore History will teach you shit a lot of historians don't even know about. You can be really empowered by knowing a lot of really complicated stuff. His counter-piece Common sense, compares a lot of current issues with historical ones, and you will see the world in a new perspective. Listen to these episodes while doing other stuff.


8) One of my friends asked a well-established restaurant if he could hang out in the restaurant and work for free (so he could learn to cook well). He became friends with all the chefs. He started just helping cutting meat and veggies, and soon he was preparing dishes. You should do things you enjoy.
I've worked for free on films, music videos and for start ups. That's how I learned to animate in After Effects and I am happy that I have these skills. Don't act like you can't do it. Because you totally can, and you should.
 
I found myself feeling similarly after a long period of social isolation in 2013-2014. I felt I had lost my identity and that I no longer had anything to offer anyone else. I was wrong.

There are plenty of people out there who do plenty of exciting things yet do not use them to add substance to their personality. Conversely, some of the most interesting and substantive figures in history spent large periods of their lives in isolation or contemplation.

I am led to believe that having a "substantial" life is let about the substance itself and more about how you relate to it. If you have a sense of purpose and are engaging with your life in a way that makes you grow and feels meaningful then perhaps life will feel substantial.

It's certainly not too late to start thinking about how you relate to your life. You say there's not much you find interesting - is there anything you can think of that is meaningful to you? Are there any circumstances you can think of that create a purposeful life for you?

Once you feel that your life is purposeful, that your life is substantial, then perhaps others will think that, too.
Perhaps it's not too late to start shifting back toward a purposeful, substantial life?
I'm hoping that working on being my own person for a while will help with that. It'll help cope with the social isolation so it doesn't seem like that big a deal.
 
Ditto this times a million.

I remember when he played and filmed the persona velvet room theme for me. I am still in awe. And that's just some dumb game music, he surpasses that constantly.

Haha yup jb is a piano master. He still needs to get around recording another song for me already.

You hear me jbro? ;)
 
so i've been on antidepressants for two days (SSRIs) and i swear i'm getting some kind of side effects already. feeling very jittery and a bit disconnected from things. is this normal? it could just be placebo/psychosomatic.

Definitely normal. In fact, for the first couple weeks, all you'll feel is the side effects and they'll probably be very noticeable. After the first two weeks, you'll probably still have some minor side effects but they shouldn't be too noticeable. The side effects should completely fade away in about a month though. And then it will probably take you 4-8 weeks (from when you started taking the SSRI) to feel the actual positive effects.
Hang in there. The first couple weeks are pretty rough.
 
1) Having a degree is still great. Most people I know, don't do what they are educated in. It's funny how the world works, but I think it really says something about how defined and broad people are.

2) When you find out what you really want to do, you can work towards a Master in something related? What sort of courses can can you do to be able to jump over into another field?


3) Coursea is amazing: You can become skilled and learn a shit for free: https://www.coursera.org/ < some of them even give ETSC points now (cost a bit money to get a cert for that thou)
Want to learn to code? Okay, http://www.codecademy.com/ < free, free.

Want to learn Japanese? Okay; Namasensei is ready to call you a fucking bitch while drunk as he teaches you japanese: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZEA54VJEdE&list=PL9987A659670D60E0&index=2 < Now you can be a real weeabo.

Or want to play video games while doing it? Join Kotoba Miners and learn Japanese inside Minecraft. Shit is banans: http://www.kotobaminers.org/


Set this to your homepage when you open a browser: https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/

4) Art of Manliness has a great category of skills you can learn, or at least get you started in. cooking, hunting, fishing, music, fixing things, repairing things, building things; http://www.artofmanliness.com/category/manly-skills/


5) Build your own computer. Restore a car. Go buy some some ingredients and some cloth and make some meals for the homeless and stitch some clothes for them.
You got this man.


6) And if I knew you in real life I would drag you to a martial arts academy. I promise it will change your life. You will get the shit kicked out of you and you will feel amazing. The camraderie you can get in such a place is very rare. You will become hardened, gain self esteem, and know you can do some wooping and defend yourself. It's a vehicle for self development in all aspects of life. And at 27 your at a good age to start. It usually takes 5-10 years to get a black belt in Judo with consist training, 10-15 years in BJJ. You got this. Everybody is super scared in the beginning, but then you find out that all those savages are the nicest guys. They get all the fear, insecurity and alpha-brain-bro complex kicked out of them. They are usually more relaxed than people on the street.


7) http://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/ Dan Carlins Hardcore History will teach you shit a lot of historians don't even know about. You can be really empowered by knowing a lot of really complicated stuff. His counter-piece Common sense, compares a lot of current issues with historical ones, and you will see the world in a new perspective. Listen to these episodes while doing other stuff.


8) One of my friends asked a well-established restaurant if he could hang out in the restaurant and work for free (so he could learn to cook well). He became friends with all the chefs. He started just helping cutting meat and veggies, and soon he was preparing dishes. You should do things you enjoy.
I've worked for free on films, music videos and for start ups. That's how I learned to animate in After Effects and I am happy that I have these skills. Don't act like you can't do it. Because you totally can, and you should.

All really solid advice and some nice links I appreciate it. Maybe my problems run a bit deeper though because it seems like I WANT to do all these things, grow as a person, learn new skills but I go to work, come home and just end up watching hulu/netflix or playing a game. No motivation at all and I recognize that, but the fear and doubt are still always there and I can't seem to shake it. I could write an essay about all my problems actually, from the small circle of friends with their own problems, to my housing situation, money trouble, debt, and I recently got out of a 6 year relationship.

I guess it really does come down to there being an underlying problem that I may need to seek help for. I have my medicaid card on the way but it is taking FOREVER. I have been waiting since april 5th. Maybe not that long but when your suffering physically or mentally 2 months can feel like 2 years. Thanks again though for the response..I hope I can find the will to try a few of these things.
 
so i've been on antidepressants for two days (SSRIs) and i swear i'm getting some kind of side effects already. feeling very jittery and a bit disconnected from things. is this normal? it could just be placebo/psychosomatic.

I seem to remember feeling kind of like that when I first started taking them. I also remember having the shits and not being able to get it up for a week or two. That stuff should all pass though.
 
Definitely normal. In fact, for the first couple weeks, all you'll feel is the side effects and they'll probably be very noticeable. After the first two weeks, you'll probably still have some minor side effects but they shouldn't be too noticeable. The side effects should completely fade away in about a month though. And then it will probably take you 4-8 weeks (from when you started taking the SSRI) to feel the actual positive effects.
Hang in there. The first couple weeks are pretty rough.

thanks. i'm not hugely concerned because a friend of mine said that she also started getting side effects immediately from going on them, but that she felt extremely nauseous.
 
Hi folks, don't think I've ever posted in here before, but I feel like I should have.

I'm going to see my doctor on Tuesday to discuss what I think is social anxiety, which I've been suffering from for years.

What's likely to happen, will I be put on tablets?
 
Man Hylian's ADHD thread is really eye opening for me. I really don't like self diagnosing myself but suddenly much of my life makes sense if I were to have ADHD... Guess I should call my doctor on monday.

I can't get my life together and I feel so broken. I feel like my life has been completely unraveling over the past several years and that I've really regressed in all aspects of life and I just want to cry.
 
I ended with my therapy for a month at least, because I felt that is not helping me anymore. Me and my therapist started with quite different views on situation that I am facing. So we agreed to make a time break and start a bit differently in one month's time.

I have such crazy amount of work at my workplace and at home that I have barely any free time left. And each day after work I go for fast walking (minimum of 5 kilometers). Reduced alcohol consumption to absolute minimum. Each evening I just fell into bed. Only this is keeping me sane.
 
That was an incredibly compelling piece. The pain and distress was almost tangible. Thanks for sharing!

Also, glad to hear that you were able to contact your piano teacher! I hope good things come from it!

Yeah, I wrote it basically bedridden. Every so often, I'd crawl to the piano, write for a few minutes and then crawl back to bed. I eventually finished it but the state I was in basically got imprinted into the music. And thank you!

Jb is wicked talented.

Ditto this times a million.

I remember when he played and filmed the persona velvet room theme for me. I am still in awe. And that's just some dumb game music, he surpasses that constantly.

Haha yup jb is a piano master. He still needs to get around recording another song for me already.

You hear me jbro? ;)

I love you guys. <3
 
Hi folks, don't think I've ever posted in here before, but I feel like I should have.

I'm going to see my doctor on Tuesday to discuss what I think is social anxiety, which I've been suffering from for years.

What's likely to happen, will I be put on tablets?

I don't know what will happen to you as it depends on your situation but I'm going through the same process. I talked with my GP and I got referred to a Social Worker, a Psychologist and a Psychiatrist. I'm waiting for my appointment with the Psychiatrist now so I can start therapy. My Social Anxiety is pretty bad and I can't function so your treatment might be more basic.
 
I don't understand this. You say you have a 3.8 GPA and are good at school. I am dyslexic, I would wish I was good in school so I could get a degree. How is that not applicable for the real world? What!?

You say you're good at sports even if you are not great. That's awesome. You don't need to be great or excel. Nobody will love you or like you more if you are a master of something.



Here is a great TED talk called "The first 20 hours - How to Learn anything" - He deconstructs the golden "10,000 hour of mastery rule" and talks about learning things you want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MgBikgcWnY


But is that really your problem? That you feel talentless is your red flag. It has nothing to do with the skills you have or don't have. Be true to yourself, not to the idea in your head which says you need this or that to feel adequate.

I wish I had your skillset. And I have been down that road of wanting to get talent. It's not a satisfying road because it's based on evaluating in contrast to everyone and grading your own performance as bad, okay, good, great, perfect. All that is horseshit. Fuck it and burn that fire. It's a major crutch and a hinderance to just being with yourself.

Tons of the greatest people you have met, the nicest people to be around, are not masters of anything. You don't define them by how good they are at assembling IKEA furniture or the amount of languages they know.
I already feel better after watching that Ted talk. It's true that most of our barriers to learning is emotional. Wish he went more in depth into how he broke down problems when learning. Explaining the steps he took to learn the ukulele for those twenty hours would've been beneficial.
 
Anyone else feel completely talent less? I feel like there are so many people who struggle and this does not down play their illness or suffering at all but at least they are GOOD at something. Growing up I thought I was at video games and in my group of friends I was, but I never really got good enough at a single game to be let's say tournament level. Smash and Halo I was close but I can't put in the hours these guys do for practice. I wanted to play other things.

Now I'm 27 and I really feel like I have no skills. Biking, skateboarding, photography, art, music, sports..(well i'm somewhat physically fit and good at sports but just good..never great), I'm horrible with numbers, have no clue about programming or web design, building things..(can't even put together Ikea furniture), and the list could go on and on.

I did well in school growing up and I have my bachelors degree and graduated with a 3.8 GPA, but I feel like the only thing I was ever good at was school. I can study, memorize, pass tests and write papers but there's no real world application. I cannot stand the thought that I am and always have been stupid and that's why I don't excel in anything.

This is literally me.
 

Thanks for the replies, Piano.

1) I'm going to try coming off of Cymbalta soon. I'm a bit nervous given the flu-like symptoms I experienced before. But if I do it slowly (how do I do that well? She didn't say) it should be a lot better than before.

2) I've felt jittery and strange since taking the Saphris pill. I only took one to help me sleep and have stayed away from it since.

My arm felt kind of numb, and then felt weak the next day.
 
Piano said:
I hope no matter what happens throughout the rest of GAF I hope you can always feel you have a home to vent and decompress in the Mental Health OT. Sometimes letting everything out and just knowing someone else is listening / reading can help us put together the puzzle pieces of our thoughts and feelings.

Let us know if there's anything we can do!
Thanks.
Still been freakishly cranky, and I'm fairly certain sleep apnea is fucking around with my physical mental health these past few days. I haven't actually been diagnosed with sleep apnea, but I think the last few months it's been pretty clear I have it, since plenty of symptoms have been gradually popping up.Haven't been in a nice long deep sleep in awhile, I'm not sure how much total sleep I've had in the last 5 days or so, but one day I got less than an hour total and I know I haven't had a more than an hour of uninterrupted sleep during that span. I just can't fall asleep correctly. Working right now on seeing how fast I can get a test for a sleep study and cpap mask
Anyhoo, I feel pretty fucked up and while I'm not going to do anything to be worried about, this is the most mentally unhealthy I've felt in awhile. Not like the typical feeling of just being tired, I've gone without sleep plenty of times when I only get an hour a day for a couple of days, but this feels different. It's hard to explain. I don't feel "right" I guess,
Just been incredibly cranky and feel like snapping and screaming at people.

Anyways, I am posting this here because in my last post I said I was PMing people with messages, and I've still been doing it. I'm still arguing with people I had an argument over three days ago. I do it even though I know I should have just dropped it and moved on and I'm pretty embarassed about it, but I actually do think it makes me feel better for a bit. So if in the next few days anybody here gets a random message where I am screaming and yelling or whatever, sorry (maybe).
 
No vertigo this morning. Great. Still gonna ask about it from a doctor, of course.

What's funny and odd is that i'm feeling great despite sleeping only 6 hours (i am the sort who usually needs/prefers 9h sleep at least).
Despite my sleep being interrupted and seeing lucid dreams, something i really don't like as they aren't nice ever really.

Don't get it but whatever, i guess.
 
I don't know what will happen to you as it depends on your situation but I'm going through the same process. I talked with my GP and I got referred to a Social Worker, a Psychologist and a Psychiatrist. I'm waiting for my appointment with the Psychiatrist now so I can start therapy. My Social Anxiety is pretty bad and I can't function so your treatment might be more basic.

Goodness, no. Not necessarily. It's an opportunity, via initial consultation and assessment, to open a dialogue, a channel of communication and to formulate a wellness plan for yourself, one which you are comfortable with and that works for you going forward. There could be a multi-disciplinary approach, as above. Try not to ruminate too much beforehand - it ain't easy but try to relax and be honest about what struggles you're having.

Thanks both for the responses. I feel equally nervous and excited to be finally speaking to a professional about it.

What finally prompted me to do it was missing an 'open day' for a potential job. I was just lying in bed awake all night filled with anxiety and dread about meeting lots of new people and I just couldn't bring myself to go, so it's affecting my day to day life.
 
Thanks both for the responses. I feel equally nervous and excited to be finally speaking to a professional about it.

What finally prompted me to do it was missing an 'open day' for a potential job. I was just lying in bed awake all night filled with anxiety and dread about meeting lots of new people and I just couldn't bring myself to go, so it's affecting my day to day life.
that sounds a lot what I went through in college with classes. It got me to actually call the mental health department.
 
Waffling on whether or not to post this as always, but I've got kind of a mutant new issue to address.

Has anyone here ever dealt with somnophobia? A fear of falling asleep, or being asleep in general, or dreaming?

On top of my insane anxiety, I've almost stopped sleeping. Rather, I'll sleep around 2 hours every 24 hours or so for around a week, then I'll finally be so exhausted that I'll just pass out for around 10 hours and wake up feeling amazing. The cycle starts again immediately after that. Oh, and yes, I know the health risks associated with this; all too well. It's kinda all I think about these days. I'm just never comfortable enough to sleep, and when I close my eyes my brain starts racing, begging me to get back up because if I fall asleep I won't wake up again. Which is obviously irrational, but that's what it does. or I do.

Going to doctors, medical and psychological, hasn't worked. At all. Actually, taking medicines makes it way worse because I have to fight harder to stay awake. I've never been able to meditate, or receive massages, or relax at all really. If anyone's ever dealt with this - what did you do?
 
It feels like less than a day goes by right now without me falling in to some kind of low mood that I struggle to get back out of.

I feel trapped. I'm in a job that I don't particularly care about, whilst friends and family are in careers that they have always dreamed of.

I've seriously thought about teaching English abroad many times, yet the idea of having to get rid of all my possessions, the home that I live in, my cat...it terrifies me.

I feel so lost.
 
It's me again. I wish i could say i got my ass in gear and went to see a therapist but i didn't.

And now i've had two breakdowns at work in the past two weeks. I don't even know why i can't deal with the work environment anymore. I've managed for six months but now i don't know what's changed.

Doesn't help that all day Thursday and Friday, the suicidal thoughts were almost unbearable.

I know i need help. I can't deal with this alone anymore but i just can't get myself to take the step and just call. I feel like just calling in sick tomorrow so I don't have to deal with that work environment anymore. I feel so pathetic.
 
Never, ever, ever, ever, ever thought i'd be need to post in this thread but... I need to post here now.

I think I might have depression. Over the past month or so I've been dealing with this coupled with mild OCD. I thought I could handle it, so I resolved myself to live that way from now on, but today was just... today, there was this extra layer of sluggishness. I had to push myself to do anything (not too much, mind you, but there was some resistance). On top of that, I used to feel an immense joy when surfing the net, but now I mostly feel anxiety and restlessness (it's there when I watch videos too). I think it's partly because i'm scared that things won't go back to the way they were.

Luckily for me, I've got a doctor's appointment tomorrow, but I can't even begin to fathom seeing a psychiatrist. Convincing my parents that I need one is one thing, but the cost going to one scares the hell out of me.
 
Never, ever, ever, ever, ever thought i'd be need to post in this thread but... I need to post here now.

I think I might have depression.

Worrying about it won't do any good. :)

If I were you, I'd wait for a diagnosis. You never know. You might just be having the regular old depression that everyone now and then has rather than the clinical sort. Getting spooked will only make it infinitely worse.

Regardless, I'm glad you're being proactive about it. Oh and welcome to the madhouse. We tend not to bite. :P
 
I already feel better after watching that Ted talk. It's true that most of our barriers to learning is emotional. Wish he went more in depth into how he broke down problems when learning. Explaining the steps he took to learn the ukulele for those twenty hours would've been beneficial.

What specifically mate? Depending on the skills, it would change what it is.

You can totally do it. Whatever it is, we can boil it down. For the guy in the TED talk it was simply - 90% of all pop songs use the same 4 chords. Then learn the first 4 chords for those 20 hours.That right there is also a massive deduction, and it's simply. It's only 4 individual things to learn. Then the rest is doing them in the right order, but it is only 4 positions.



Lets take languages. Tim Ferris has a great post on his blog about it, from 2009: http://fourhourworkweek.com/2009/01/20/learning-language/ and he made a follow-up some years later ( http://fourhourworkweek.com/2014/03/21/how-to-learn-a-foreign-language-2/ )


He claims that most languages in the world only have people use around 200 of the most common words daily. Meaning. If you can learn the top-200 most common words, you're golden. You might not be able to read a newspaper fluently, you might not be able to hold your own in a discussion, but you can understand and communicate and more than get by.
And that is amazing.

Think about it. Whatever it is you have always wanted to learn, you can do it. By going by splitting up the task in smaller peaces, you are already on your way.
The trick with most skills, and especially, music playing and language learning, is that you need to practice every day to really see the benefits. But the good news is that you dont need to practice a lot to see the benefits.


I challenge you to pick a thing and do it. Today. Right Now. For 20 minutes. Whatever. Do it.
 
Never, ever, ever, ever, ever thought i'd be need to post in this thread but... I need to post here now.

I think I might have depression. Over the past month or so I've been dealing with this coupled with mild OCD. I thought I could handle it, so I resolved myself to live that way from now on, but today was just... today, there was this extra layer of sluggishness. I had to push myself to do anything (not too much, mind you, but there was some resistance). On top of that, I used to feel an immense joy when surfing the net, but now I mostly feel anxiety and restlessness (it's there when I watch videos too). I think it's partly because i'm scared that things won't go back to the way they were.

Luckily for me, I've got a doctor's appointment tomorrow, but I can't even begin to fathom seeing a psychiatrist. Convincing my parents that I need one is one thing, but the cost going to one scares the hell out of me.

The costs involved are worth it if things improve for you. Living with depression and not acting on it will only lead you one way. Talk to your parents, if you feel you can, and talk to friends or siblings if you have them and you feel you can trust them with something as weighty as this. They should be your first port of call. Pretty much guarantee you that somebody you know has been through depression at some stage at your life.

Depending on where you are, you can find help in other ways that don't involve paying for it. Talk to the doctor about what's going on for you and progress from there. If you need anything else, ask this thread. We're pretty experienced with this whole depression thing.
 
Worrying about it won't do any good. :)

If I were you, I'd wait for a diagnosis. You never know. You might just be having the regular old depression that everyone now and then has rather than the clinical sort. Getting spooked will only make it infinitely worse.

Regardless, I'm glad you're being proactive about it. Oh and welcome to the madhouse. We tend not to bite. :P

The costs involved are worth it if things improve for you. Living with depression and not acting on it will only lead you one way. Talk to your parents, if you feel you can, and talk to friends or siblings if you have them and you feel you can trust them with something as weighty as this. They should be your first port of call. Pretty much guarantee you that somebody you know has been through depression at some stage at your life.

Depending on where you are, you can find help in other ways that don't involve paying for it. Talk to the doctor about what's going on for you and progress from there. If you need anything else, ask this thread. We're pretty experienced with this whole depression thing.

So in my panic, I kind of forgot that I live in Canada... A psychologist is covered in my health plan, so that's one obstacle down. Unfortunately, I don't really have a solid relationship with my folks, and telling them about this is the last thing I want to do (my mom uses mental illnesses as a pejorative...) I've talked to a couple of my closest friends and they've been pretty supportive, which has been nice (my family is still completely in the dark though). My doctor offered to prescribe medicine (which I refused) and referred me to a walk-in counselling clinic to go from there.
 
I've been on a waiting list for the next appointment with the psychologist for some time. The last time I was in there, his receptionist mentioned that all appointments that were close by were booked, so she gave me a list of random dates and said that I'd get put onto the next free one. This was maybe early-mid May. They called me back today telling me that I have an appointment tomorrow at 11. I usually don't have much to say when I go in there because I connect everything back to my central problem of being stressed and dealing with feeling alone with a low sense of self worth. I figured I'd talk more about what I spoke about in here, with feeling that I don't do enough.
 
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