Well, isn't that pretty much reality?
Oh and to add more to the atrocities of wizarding society, they use psychological torture against prisoners.
So Hufflepuff is CLEARLY the best house...
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Well, isn't that pretty much reality?
Oh and to add more to the atrocities of wizarding society, they use psychological torture against prisoners.
Slughorn.
not all Slytherin are pureblood supremacist murderers in training.
But the ones who aren't are probably cowards.
The wizards should've admitted some muggles to study magic (academically) and magical history and other subjects where actual ability to practice magic wasn't necessary. It would have been more meaningful if Rowling ended the book with Harry checking his privilege and creating a scholarship fund for muggles (which is a derogatory, offensive term that Harry et al. seem to have no problem using) and opening up Hogwarts to all instead of just riding his exclusionary magic train into the sunset.
In conclusion, Harry Potter actually sets a really bad example for children and probably should be banned from school reading lists and the hands of impressionable young minds (not for magic, but because it champions unjust discrimination and racism/magicism).
In conclusion, Harry Potter actually sets a really bad example for children and probably should be banned from school reading lists and the hands of impressionable young minds (not for magic, but because it champions unjust discrimination and racism/magicism).
You're right, Slughorn was all about his students potential. He didn't care if they were muggles or pure bloods. If you were average though gtfo.
And this is why Hufflepuff make for the superior army of followers for their chosen object of worship. The top Slytherin has to make sure the lower ones are all suitably bribed or scared. The top Hufflepuff automatically has his followers' blind devotion.
Which I'm sure plenty have.
And they've actually practiced theirs.
EDIT: Seriously, there has never been a Hufflepuff as rock stupid as Crabbe and Goyle.
foxuzamaki
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Slughorn is a pokemon master. He only cares about student with great IVs.
The Real Abed
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Hooray. A Harry Potter thread. I'm really close to finishing Half-Blood Prince. I'm confident it's going to end on a high note.
Kidding. I know how it ends. I've seen the movies. And the T-shirts. And the spoilers on the internet.
MagnaderAlpha
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They act more like the "know-it-alls" because of that. Slytherin would describe the Microsoft sympathizers that defended all the shady Draconian shit and in some cases, still do. Sony fanboys... Gryffindor... self-righteous upstarts.
DrForester
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Still. Slughorn stayed because it was the right thing to do. It would have been nice to see some of the Slytherins stay, but it would have been a bit out of place since Rowling made no effort to make the Slytherins into anything but racist, murderous jerks. Had some effort been made to develop some of them, it would have worked.
Even with Draco. Several times in the books he and harry are compared to Snape and James. Big difference is there Draco never gets one on Harry, outside a few verbal jabs. They're not Equals. Harry always wins. Draco isn't developed till book six, when suddenly, he is a threat to Harry and it just seems out of place.
Even with Draco. Several times in the books he and harry are compared to Snape and James. Big difference is there Draco never gets one on Harry, outside a few verbal jabs. They're not Equals. Harry always wins. Draco isn't developed till book six, when suddenly, he is a threat to Harry and it just seems out of place.
Sorting hat is often pretty bad at assessing character when you think about it. Pettigrew does not strike me as someone who should have been in the "courageous" house.
Sequence Six
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How would we even know? All the Hufflepuffs are either dead or window dressing.
Takes a lot of guts to betray your friends like that. He even was foolhardy in doing so! He covers both bases.
I don't think Draco was developed as a threat in book 6. He was developed as someone who was in way out of his depth.
True, then he bravely hid as a rat for the next few decades after framing one of his friends for their murder.
Gellert Grindelwald.
His claim to fame is coming in close second a couple generations ago, before getting rekt by Dumbledore/Gryffindor/Sony.
IIRC, JKR said he wasn't courageous, wasn't ambitious, wasn't studious, wasn't hard working, he was just weak and afraid, and felt that Gryffindors would do a better job of protecting him than anyone else.
Not every Gryffindor's more brave than intelligent.
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He's able to duel with Harry equally, despite Harry's talent for defense against the dark arts, and that Draco has never really been presented as someone who could do that.
Slughorn. Slughorn and only Slughorn. I'm sure the people before Lucius' generation were less shitty.
Well maybe that's the answer to the Hufflepuff conundrum.
In the magic world, hard work means zero, since all learning is just barely memorizing magical words.
I guess when you start sorting for personality traits, and then you not only make it so you largely only associate with people of those personality traits but also have cultural (institutional) biases against people of the other Groups, some things just become inevitable
The do have arithmancy classes, which prolly replaces computers, or at least, old ww2 style computers.
SolVanderlyn
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I fucking knew it.
A million times this.
I knew my ex was a loony when I found out she had a shirt that said "Hufflepride".
Atraveller
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The Wizarding World has deep shittyness. Their whole world used to be controlled by a small number of inbred "great families" who had all the money (and eventually started to decay and crumble), and Dark Wizards like Voldemort and Grindelwald popped up with regularity and formed armies around them.
The House of Black was apparently a shitty House which was practically wiped out in Voldy's first war because they bet too much on Voldy. Although, this House also gave birth to Regulus and Sirius.
IIRC, it was said that Viktor Krum's school (proudly led by a paroled Death Eater) offered classes in actual Dark Arts (not just Defense Against). Some Slytherin like Malfoy thought Hogwarts was weaksauce, but they enroll in Hogwarts because Slytherin is a name of prestige among the assholes.
Slytherin is just Hogwarts' dumping ground for all of their evil, as wished for by one of the school's four founders.
So you're saying all those Hufflepuffs wanted to be Hufflepuffs. I don't know bud.
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excelsiorlef
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The exception.
In Slytherin you're the blacksheep if you don't want to exterminate mudbloods.
Slytherin or bust
excelsiorlef
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People (and not necessarily you) saying thaat Slughorn and Snape prove that Slytherin isn't all about murdering and being evil that's like saying the Nazi weren't really all Genocidial Jew Haters because of Oskar Schindler.
Bolded is key. Malfoy changed his tune very quickly after the fall of Voldemort, but changed it just as quickly during his revival.
Slytherin are opportunists first and foremost.
The only reason Snape didn't side with Voldemort at the end was because he killed Lily, if Voldemort had spared her then Snape would have been content to let him go on with his genocide. Why do people keep forgetting this?
Vermillion
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Uh, Ravenclaw is cool and Hufflepuff sucks.
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Exactly. Snape didn't care that Voldemort was murdering Muggles and other Wizards. SNape only cared because Voldermort, after killing probably hundreds of others, killed one person Snape cared about. It's pretty much the same as Sirius' Brothers. He didn't care about all the people Voldemort killed until he tried to kill someone Regulus actually cared about.
Laughing Banana
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Hogwart is a stupid school because Sorting Hat is truly a stupid, stupid thing.
"Hey, let's separate all the kids according to their most defining personality since you know, how your personality is in the young age clearly dictates the way you live your life in its entirety, and no, cohesiveness is not good so why not we adhere to a system that incredibly promotes inclusiveness and don't let *that* type of kid to mingle with *this* type of kid? Especially nice with that one particular branch where we like, put *all* the bad evil kids in so that they can only strengthen their evilness by interacting daily with their fellow like-mindedness evil overlord potential kids."
"Hey, let's separate all the kids according to their most defining personality since you know, how your personality is in the young age clearly dictates the way you live your life in its entirety, and no, cohesiveness is not good so why not we adhere to a system that incredibly promotes inclusiveness and don't let *that* type of kid to mingle with *this* type of kid? Especially nice with that one particular branch where we like, put *all* the bad evil kids in so that they can only strengthen their evilness by interacting daily with their fellow like-mindedness evil overlord potential kids."
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Also I don't see how anyone becomes a member of Voldermort's inner circle without murdering a few muggles. I wish someone would have forced some truth potion down Snape's throat and asked him about his time as a Death eater,
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The sorting is kinda flawed anyway.
I mean granted, hat stalls exist wherein the hat and the person's mind debate, but even then you'd have shit like where are the ambitious muggleborns in Slytherin who wanted to prove that they can be better despite being muggleborns?
I mean granted, hat stalls exist wherein the hat and the person's mind debate, but even then you'd have shit like where are the ambitious muggleborns in Slytherin who wanted to prove that they can be better despite being muggleborns?
excelsiorlef
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Oh I know but fact remains he did go against Voldemort (regardless of reasons) but I agree with you.
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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Ugh, this fits too well
Jane/Brittany-Gryffindor
Quinn/Sandi/Tiffany-Slytherin
Daria-Ravenclaw
Stacy/Jodie-Hufflepuff
Hmm...
I don't think the Sorting Hat really reads your mind and uses a snapshot of one underdeveloped, temporary stage of your life to decide your entire future, I think it looks into your mind as a way to read your future. It can see "everything" in your head, all you are is laid bare, and there are four paths ahead of you, and it can see enough to know how you'll respond to each of them. Will you thrive, fail, or just get by?
And then, the Hat doesn't ignore who you are in the moment. Harry had a bad impression of Slytherin, and the Hat tested him, offering him greatness, but when Harry refused to take that power, he got sent to Gryffindor. Neville, on the other hand, refused to go to Gryffindor. He had low self-esteem and insisted that he wasn't good enough for Gryffindor, he belonged in Hufflepuff, and the Hat insisted that his "fight" to go to Hufflepuff was the "fight" that proved he belonged in Gryffindor. And it was right, Neville became a badass.
And the Hat doesn't judge. If you really are a Slytherin, if that's what's right for you, then it'll send you there so you can grow and be the best that you can be. Problem is, there are a lot of assholes in the world.
As for inclusiveness and mingling, sorting takes a group of scared, lonely little kids and gives them a place to belong. None are left out or lost in the crowd, because every one of those kids has been recruited into a group of like-minded individuals. By dividing the students, they bring some of them closer together. And there are shared classes. How many times did you see Harry in the same class as Draco? It's because on X-day Gryffindor shares a class with Slytherin. On Y-day they share a class with Ravenclaw. On Z, it's Hufflepuff. Plenty of room to get to know each other.
Snape and Lily were BFFs, until Snape called her a mudblood. Ginny and Luna became BFFs in their first year. Luna dated both Harry and Neville. Harry dated Cho. There are clearly no rules against mingling.
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Hufflepuff is trash.
Ravenclaw always appealed to me the most.
Ravenclaw always appealed to me the most.
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