orthodoxy1095
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I can buy the entire Gears collection for like $8-10. So how exactly would you price a Gears remaster if it includes Multiplayer?
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Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection announced, October 9th, UC4 MP beta access
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I disagree with the price tag too, but it's not that you disagree, it's how you're doing it...
IMO, it should be at most $50. Maybe even $40. I'll still get it regardless... Uncharted is like my playstation Halo (in terms of love/must buy factor).
Miles Quaritch
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No need for that.
I checked the OP and I'm not seeing any mention of no MP for 2 and 3.
That explains it, the boxart image isn't loading for me. Might be an idea to add the info to the OP in a text box as well...
Seems genuinely overpriced if that's the case, much like the GoW3 remaster...I guess I don't blame Sony for cashing in, but it smacks of pure greed. At least price it more competitively if you're removing features.
Thanks.
UC2 shooting felt the best, but I never understand went people say that the controls weren't great. I don't know what you're looking for when they have an animation system as layered and complex as they do. It's really hard have extremely tight controls and have that at the same time. I think they were good.
Which TPS's other than Gears do you think had better controls overall. When think of TPS's with mediocre gameplay, I think Mass Effect 1..
Maybe text could be added but its already in the boxart that its the campaign for all 3. A screenshot of the blog post detailing no MP would be easier for gleaning information though
XMasterNemesisX
Member
So was this originally going to come out alongside Uncharted 4?
If there is a bundle with this and Uncharted 4.it might be time for me to pick up a ps4.
If there is a bundle with this and Uncharted 4.it might be time for me to pick up a ps4.
Sorry, it's getting late here. I'm tired and should stop posting.
Miles Quaritch
Member
As broken as it might have been, we should be comparing all remasters to MCC in terms of pricing.
Or Metro Redux. Let's not list greedy publishers and say it's acceptable for Sony to charge full price, especially with features removed...
myharlequin
Member
That would be the same. At least UC2 needs to have MP... I remember that it was the most played MP in the PS3
Multiplayer was/still is fucked and it was only one more game originally - ODST was only added for those that both originally due to the problems.
I agree golden abyss would have been a good way to add value though. I'd even accept it without major revamping - there are limits what can be done bumping up from vita.
StylesClash
Member
I'm so ready!
Everything is going to lose against MCC other than maybe the Orange Box from Valve. Are you saying because Microsoft did it, that it should be a standard thing now?
... $60 for three remasters is a good deal. My point is that these are all examples of remasters in recent memory, many of which people bought in droves and welcomed with open arms.
This package is a good deal and it's very likely to be polished, considering the team behind it, unlike MCC. The Master Chief Collection is absolutely a great value, but not everything is going to match it.
There's also the apples/oranges acknowledgement that we don't know the degree of remastering being done to the Uncharteds. If all three get The Last of Us Ps4 treatment then I'd say that's something, whereas Halo 2 was the only real-deal new remaster for the MCC.
Miles Quaritch
Member
No worries, but I do think the no MP info should be added to OP.
I was sat here blissfully unaware MP wasn't in until I saw that post....pretty gutted we won't get UC2 MP in 1080/60.
Mass Effect
Member
I like it. Let's do it.
I just think it depends on the person. I'd rather pay $60 than go out and get a PS3 or play through the games on PSNow. Multiplayer or not, this way is much cheaper for me since I don't own a PS3, but for those that own the games on PS3, it might not be worth it to them.
GoW3:R is straight up BS though. It shouldn't be priced that high.
i3allistic
Member
I think the price will drop fast, like really fast since BF around the corner from launch ...
Ehh.
I would have taken The Last of Us Remastered > Uncharted Trilogy or MCC.
It's just one game though, such bad value.
You have to consider every single person who played the game in multiplayer is accounted for when we are counting the multiplayer trophies.
But the same isnt true when we are talking about single player trophies.
Truth is, many people simply dont have a PSN account/ plays offline.
Also, using only the trophy for beating the game isnt the way to go, many people simply might lose interest/wont be able to beat the game/ the trophies might glitch on them.
We are using the trophies for playing the multiplayer a single time right? Why dont you use the earliest single player trophy for comparison then?
Also, dont consider Uncharted 1, that game had its trophies patched in. Any data for it isnt accurate.
Squall5042
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What's with all these pre-E3 announcements??
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I think the idea behind that comment is that Uncharted 4 was going to be a holiday 2015 game and this collection is a holiday 2015 game. The collection has obviously been in development for some time, which means that it has probably been planned for this date for a while (unless they're needlessly delaying it and it was originally going to release in the summer). As a result, it would seem that the collection and Uncharted 4 were planned for the same release window. The only way I can see these two not having ever been planned for the same window is if Uncharted 4 has been known for quite some time that it wasn't going to release in 2015 or if this collection was originally planned for a summer release (as mentioned before).
NullPointer
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And none of the co-op missions and siege mode stuff, which, after the campaign itself, was so much fun. Some of those siege missions were pretty tough.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I am. Remasters shouldn't be put out at RRP, especially when you've removed features.
It's a good deal on the surface, we're getting three great games, but it's not really when you look under the surface and realise the multiplayer for two games is completely gone.
It's a bit greedy to charge full whack with that in mind. $40 seems perfect with the removal of MP. I get why Sony is charging full price, but it's greedy and we shouldn't be afraid of labelling it as such.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I don't think it needs to have anything strictly speaking. You may want it, but it doesn't need it. What the Collection needs to do is acclimate new fans to the Uncharted story and mechanics and tease them to buy the next game with the MP Beta (thus not have some people stay on the Collection's MP instead of moving to UC4). From a business standpoint it's really quite easy to see why it's not there.
A PS blog post did. Link is floating around here somewhere. Someone will probably provide it soon but I'll look again
EDIT:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015...than-drake-collection-out-october-9th-on-ps4/
Read the red comments
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linkrules was just trying to be clever because someone had just told him that a few posts earlier. Possibly doesn't realize that a ban as junior would be permanent
BlackBuzzard
Banned
This is so ironic.
Greedy is a charged word that means nothing when talking about pricing products, though.
They want to maximize profits, and will price accordingly.
NullPointer
Member
Why not include the co-op then?
OK, I guess its not story related, but I wouldn't think you'd have nearly the same problems with supporting that mode as opposed to the full competitive multiplayer.
Mendax
Member
ah aight, thanks, I was eagle-eyeing the EU blog post but it seems no dev comments on those anymore (which would be totally understandable :/)
orthodoxy1095
Banned
This matters for Online players as well, but trophy stats don't necessarily tell us everything because of syncing. I went to a friend's trophy list and noticed he hadn't earned a trophy in like six months. I went to his house last week, booted up the trophy list and boom: there were all his trophies. He just couldn't be bothered to sync the lists.
Now that I actually think is a much more obvious concern. I really think those could have stayed close adding content and replayability without incurring all the costs and issues that straight MP might have done.
We'll have to see the degree of remastering being done, I think, before we really know the true value here.
It's not exactly a universal-truth across all games. Look at the Shadow of the Colossus remaster: its real value was in that both games ran so much better than they did previously (on top of the higher resolution visuals, etc). The Halo: Combat Evolved remaster was more of a new-asset product, so it was a different value add. Halo 4 on the MCC was basically just a "get it running" deal.
Something like the Metal Gear Solid collection on PS3 improved visuals while also just being a damn good package in terms of bang-for-buck. We don't really know what this package will be, but if it's something in-line with The Last of Us on Ps4 for each of the three games then I know I'm sold.
Getting three awesome campaigns remastered on PS4 at double the frame rate, significantly increasing the resolution, improving poly counts, etc, all for $60 (likely to drop to $40/50 before Christmas) doesn't seem very greedy to me.
Let me know if this picture scales OK. I'm on mobile so I can't tell.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
I think this is the best way to put it.
Sithlord77
Banned
It says the collection is 22gb on the store. Surely that's not right? Uncharted 1 alone was like 40gb on PS3
Mendax
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Let me know if this picture scales OK. I'm on mobile so I can't tell.
it's huge
someone already answered though but thanks anyway!
It's right there in the promo text:
That means not only delivering the single-player campaigns of Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune, Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, and Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception in 1080p and 60fps with better lighting, textures, and models, but also adding a range of improvements and additions across all three games including Photo Mode and new trophies.
but yeah, they could've said that MP wont be included (besides U4 beta access)
EmptySpace
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play uc3 first then uc2. i doubt you'd find uc3 to be horrible or some other hyperbolic bullcrap some people like to spew.
for me, there are a lot of things u3 did better. on the same note, there are portions where uc2 shined.
I don't see it as greedy because of the amount of content in total and the amount of work that has been put into the remasters. If you think about this from a perspective of someone new to this series, this really isn't that big of a deal. If it's not at the right price, you can wait until it's $40-45 (which won't take long because of black friday).
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Warablo
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Alan Wake
Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Tomb Raider
Hitman: Absolution
Spec Ops: The Line
Ghost Recon
Sniper Elite
TLOU
EDIT:
Vanquish
Binary Domain
Honestly most of them. The combat just didn't feel good, I think because of the physics and animations they used. Also Uncharted 3 had a bug that made the aiming horrible. I guess Mass Effect and GTA are worse in feeling. It could be that I don't like playing shooters on the PS3 controller. Maybe if I played them on the PS4 I would feel that the gameplay was better. I also didn't play them on release, so it is different.
Yeah, that's a more abridged version of my long-winded post.
Remasters are different from ports, and BluePoint seems to deliver the goods on these. 3 Uncharted campaigns at 1080/60 with improved poly count and lighting sounds like a deal to me for $60.
Metro Redux was two single player only games for $50. This is three single player games for $60. $20 per game versus $25 per game. I'm expecting the Uncharted 1 Remaster will be a similar retooling to 2033 Redux. Don't understand the value difference there.