That doesn't mean what Konami is doing isn't some really shitty practice.
I don't want to miss out on an otherwise great game because of some shitty details (like a downgrade or microtransactions) but it still disappoints me greatly.
Metal Gear Solid V The Phantom Pain to feature microtransactions
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That doesn't mean what Konami is doing isn't some really shitty practice.
I don't want to miss out on an otherwise great game because of some shitty details (like a downgrade or microtransactions) but it still disappoints me greatly.
Uno Venova
Banned
They´re even the creators of the most famous of them all.
Fuck Konami.
Now putting in this code just brings up the purchase screen.
Boggles my mind.
There is always Persona 5.The one game I anticipated most.
FUCK
WHAT!? You live more like a citizen then a criminal!?
[QUOTE="D";167268553]I never said i wasn't going to buy it. Metal Gear is usually a day one buy for me..but with the falling out of Kojima and Konami (the scariest part of the whole situation to me) and these alleged microtransactions so "close" to release, I'll wait until its already out and already reviewed by some of my trusted sites/outlets before I pick it up[/QUOTE]The Day 1 Sticker what did it for me.
My immediate thought.
EDIT: I've had this on pre-order for the longest time. Going to cancel now. Can always order again if previews say it's not an issue.
2nd edit: Was rushed on my lunch hour before, time to check the facts now and I'm going to calm down a bit and wait for more detail. In my first reading I didn't realise that two totally separate sources were being combined in the article. The speeding up and in-game purchases haven't been connected yet.
You're giving these people too much credit.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Im OK with this. Wont use it however.
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
So... Let me get this straight. We literally have no idea the extent or amount of impact these may have, right?
I'm just confused at all the responses here given the absolute dearth of information.
I'm just confused at all the responses here given the absolute dearth of information.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Its shitty but the fact is nowadays it's almost everyone is doing it and there's not anything we can do about but just keep ignoring it like I've been doing. I'm not missing out on my most anticipated game over something that's purely optional. But hey, if people want to overreact and jump straight to the hyperbolic "preorder canceled" step before we know anything then that's on them.
yiepekaiyei
Banned
Konami is doing everything they can to destroy themselves... WOW!
Facism
Member
We all know what's gonna happen with all the people in this thread who is "outraged" and "canceled their preorders" come September 1st
cool show me the other 16 pages of that group.
Yeah true some people go way too far based on how little info we have at the moment.
But I think it's good that people are expressing their discontent with in app purchases at least. Those protests might get ignored but you can't win if you don't even participate.
They're not even confirmed but apparently it's jump to conclusions day.
They don't care. Video games isn't where they make their big money.
Given they make their money off of preying on human weakness for the most part, yeah hard to disagree with that.
DannyDanger
Member
Ok? MGS4 had em too
No one plays MW2 anymore.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
PC version we go.
Modders, save us. You're our only hope
Modders, save us. You're our only hope
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
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motorised mallard
Member
For DLC (including cosmetics), yes.
But for F2P timers and mechanics in single player, full priced games? No, the time to complain about this is now if there ever is one.
Uno Venova
Banned
So what was the point of the picture?
The false outrage.
Black Mantis
Member
Same, just like every other game that has them.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake!
giancarlo123x
Banned
Drebin!
zerokoolpsx
Member
I won't use it either. Maybe its only for multiplayer like MGO?
maquiladora
Member
Wait 15:49 to use cardboard box again or pay 200 Snake Coins to use it right now!
giancarlo123x
Banned
So you have the game and know what the microtransactions are exactly or more hyperbole?
IGN's own Jose Otero also noticed room for what could be microtransactions when he previewed The Phantom Pain last month.
At one point in The Phantom Pain demo, according to Otero, attempting to speed up development on Mother Base resulted in the following prompt: "Reduced time features cannot be used in offline mode."
It affects the single player game, did you guys read the OP?
These practices are shitty and shouldn't be in full priced games.
RealityCheque
Banned
I'm sure its been said already but I'll chime in anyway:
FUCK YOU KONAMI !!!
FUCK YOU KONAMI !!!
mcz117chief
Member
I actually like this. Given the option to either spend 10$ or farm points for hours on end I think it is pretty obvious which is the better option.
GreyOcelot
Member
how about wait until it's confirmed first? sounds reasonable to me
giancarlo123x
Banned
You must not buy many games then. Almost every "full priced retail games" have some form of it and it's business as usual because they're redundant and for people that just want everything unlocked quickly.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Good game design would have it be neither.
"I actually like this". Lord have mercy on our hobby.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Gaming had a good run
mcz117chief
Member
The problem is that gamers today ask for 654189161648 hours of campaign and companies just can't make that. So instead we get games like Assassin's Creed 2 and up where they just clutter the map with pointless "side-quests" that do nothing but stop you from enjoying the story of the game or prevent you from having access to all the game's features. I would rather have a 8 hour Order 1886esque Metal Gear like the 1st 3 are rather than a bloated game with pointless fetch quests and money hoarding. In this case I would personally do anything to just get to the good stuff and I don't care if it turns the game from bazzilion hours of farming with a couple of hours of good story into just those couple of hours of good story. So, if the game will have an option to skip all the unnecessary bs then I am totally down to pay an extra buck (of course I would rather not have to pay anything extra but it beats the alternative)
Wut. You're exactly who they're catering to. Intentionally bad design you are willing to pay your way past.
I'm not ready to say that's what this all is yet, but I guess you're good to go if it is. Damn, son.
mcz117chief
Member
read my more in-depth post and tell me what you think
They aren't going to confirm, it'd be marketing / PR suicide.
Uno Venova
Banned
It shows what expectations, people have when they expect poor mechanics you'd rather pay to get past than just having devs not make those pointless and boring mechanics in the first place to pay past, but hey, then micro-transactions would never make money.
I'm about to be a father of two now, so I know about time being important. If this does turn out to be a mess, I'm still not willing to pay my way to a quicker outcome. It's the base building stuff from the sounds of it. I can leave the game on, or just quit out of it and come back later if it actually does hinder advancement at some point. I'm there day one no matter what, but I'm not giving more money for shit like that. I'm not in this for the story as much anyway. It's about the gameplay. If it takes me a long time to reach its conclusion, part of that will be because I'm as immersed as I was in GZ.