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[Finale Fireworker]

Was Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts a financial success for Microsoft when it was released in 2008 on the 360?

Something people often forget is that people DID stop buying these games, which made publishers apprehensive about making them. The buyer base was either not growing or unsustainably small for the effort required to produce a video game. So they moved on to more lucrative projects.

Kickstarters like Yooka-Laylee and Bloodstained attract a lot of new players who have never played Banjo or Castlevania before because of the publicity they generate and people wanting to support the underdog. Look how many times in this thread alone people have asked which Castlevania games they should play.

The people backing Bloodstained now aren't just the people who bought Order of Ecclesia, you know what I mean?

Which is not at all to say publishers are 100% right and there is no market for these games until they suddenly generate one with a high-profile Kickstarter, but it's important to consider that these Kickstarters get a lot more goodwill than probably the last entry in the series they're succeeding did.

I would be very curious to see Bloodstained's eventual numbers compared to the DS Castlevanias, as well as MM9's compared to Mega Man 9+10, and YL to Banjo Tooie's.

 

[Zonic]

New update & stretch goal: $5.5 Million unlocks "Boss Revenge Mode":

- Control several different bosses
- Utilize their special attacks to wreak havok
- Explore a new BOSS REVENGE area
- Turn the tables and defeat “Hero” Bosses in your pursuit of humanity's destruction

Also, if one more backer achievement is obtained (60), then a new "pure costume" will be available for Miriam.

 

[Theonik]

Well the stream will certainly be interesting. Bet they weren't expecting we'd hit $5m before that.

 

[SuperInuit]

Got a quick question, if you pledge the $28 tier do you get the retro minigame too?

 

[Giolon]

New update & stretch goal: $5.5 Million unlocks "Boss Revenge Mode":

- Control several different bosses
- Utilize their special attacks to wreak havok
- Explore a new BOSS REVENGE area
- Turn the tables and defeat “Hero” Bosses in your pursuit of humanity's destruction

Also, if one more backer achievement is obtained (60), then a new "pure costume" will be available for Miriam.

YASSSSSS!!!!!!!!

 

[Dr.Acula]

What extra content are $60 backers getting over $28 backers?

I need to know this.

The physical copy of the game for Xbox One, Playstation 4, Wii U, PS Vita, Steam (PC/Mac/Linux), or GOG (DRM-free PC/Mac/Linux) will include exclusive Kickstarter-only content:

The mighty swordwhip
A super-powerful hidden boss
A Kickstarter Edition slipcase

 

[Zonic]

Got a quick question, if you pledge the $28 tier do you get the retro minigame too?

Yes. In fact, you get a spare code for the mini-game if you get the physical version.

 

[Vamphuntr]

Got a quick question, if you pledge the $28 tier do you get the retro minigame too?

Yes, it was mentionned in an update.

 

[SuperInuit]

Yes. In fact, you get a spare code for the mini-game if you get the physical version.

I lack the funds for the physical version, but consider that lower tier backed!

 

[Kazer]

Got a quick question, if you pledge the $28 tier do you get the retro minigame too?

Yep!

This Boss Revenge mode sounds interesting. I feel like we'll end up hitting $5.5mil too!

 

[Finale Fireworker]

Damn, Pure Miriam!

 

[Jucksalbe]

$5.5 million? I wonder if they can really reach that. But then again I also thought $5 million was rather unlikely.

 

[leesmapman]

Got a quick question, if you pledge the $28 tier do you get the retro minigame too?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night/posts/1260550
This game will later be sold separately, but every $28+ backer copy of Bloodstained will come with a FREE download of this game on PS4, XB1, Wii U, or PC! (So backers at Physical+Digital tiers will be eligible for 2 copies of the mini-game.) At the current pace of funding, it's just a matter of hours until Inti is committed to develop the minigame for Vita/3DS as well.

 

[Wanderer5]

Oh sweet least even at $28 tier, there that mini game for free. I probably get the 3DS version just for nintendo portable castlevania sake.XD

 

[Kirie]

That pure Miriam costume looks amaaaazing

 

[Rymuth]

Love the Pure Miriam look..

I wonder if Boss Revenge Mode has an ending dedicated to it, a BAD ending if you will

Update form Armature.

We announced that we would be releasing the code for our UE4 WiiU/Vita modifications. We didn’t provide very many details, and there’s been some confusion, so we just wanted to clear a few things up.

What we are planning to do is share the WiiU and Vita modifications to UE4 for Bloodstained after the game ships with authorized developers for the respective platforms (and we’re not sure how we’ll deliver the code, it’s a bit complicated because of all the parties involved).

Neither us nor Epic will be providing any support for this code. What developers will get will be a snapshot of the platform-specific code that ships with Bloodstained on the version of UE4 that Bloodstained ships with. Nobody will be keeping the code up-to-date with newer versions of UE4.

We are not planning to take external contributions from individuals, do any co-development, or release the code prior to Bloodstained’s release. Our intent is to give people a great jumping-off point on those platforms.

We hope this clears things up, and we’re excited to provide more specifics as we have them!

 

[Vamphuntr]

That pure Miriam costume looks amaaaazing

Looks like female Alucard.

 

[zulux21]

$5.5 million? I wonder if they can really reach that. But then again I also thought $5 million was rather unlikely.

it really shouldn't be that hard to reach it at the rate they are gaining funds, especially if there is around 200k in the paypal funds right now. I expect the kickstarter page to finish at around 5.35 mil right now.

 

[Dominic_Shade]

Pure Miriam is <3.

 

[Arabesque]

So a livestream I follow is apparently doing a official Final Countdown for the Kickstarter - Live from Japan.
Starts in about 5 hours.

https://twitter.com/FFStv/status/609377737896128513

Here's their twitch (don't know if it'll be on here or not)

Just thought you guys oughtta know.

Huh, from the looks of it, the stream will be on their Twitch? I was looking through their archive and it seems they had a brief test stream earlier today

www.twitch.tv/ffstv/v/6087419

Iga shows up and everything lol (though it's really short and obviously a mistake).

Should intreasting watching now.

 

[Anoregon]

Boss revenge mode? sounds cool but honestly at this point I'm less into all these different, independent/disconnected modes and more just about that core experience being huge and fun.

 

[Red Arremer]

Something people often forget is that people DID stop buying these games, which made publishers apprehensive about making them. The buyer base was either not growing or unsustainably small for the effort required to produce a video game. So they moved on to more lucrative projects.

There's a few factors that come into this, though:
First, a lot of the later installments of those games were shit. Publishers (except for Sega) seem to think that if a game is considered shit and sells badly, they have to drop it like a hot potato. Best example: EA closing developer studios of games they ordered them to make, but ended up receiving backlash critically and/or financially (e.g. Maxis, Westwood, the guys who made Dungeon Keeper Mobile, etc.)

Second, big publishers expect their games to do really well. Even if it does end up being utter trash. Because they're only getting some money, and not all of the money. A mildly successful game like the DSvanias do well with their target crowd, but it's not exorbitant amounts of money, which is why publishers think that there's "no market".

It's basically a neverending circle: Developers create an IP that does decently well, publishers blow up the IP and churn out sequels that get shittier with each installment because of the publisher demanding features X and Y to get more monetization out of it, and then are surprised if the trash they squirt out doesn't do well. Obviously it's the fault of the IP, of the genre or the developers, so either or all 3 of those are dropped, and the publisher moves on to the next project that looks promising.

Aptly to this game and its roots, most big publishers are like money vampires, sucking IPs and development studios dry, and with each slurp, the IP/developers grow weaker and can only do so much.

 

[giancarlo123x]

I've never backed anything before so I have one quick question, I want to get a digital copy but I don't know how much longer I'll be living at this place. If I were to move would it be easy to change where I get it shipped to?

 

[Mr_Antimatter]

Wait, if the curse's corruption changes your hair color to reflect it's evil, shouldn't cursed! Miriam be a redhead?

 

[Mr. Nice_Guy]

That pure Miriam costume looks amaaaazing

WAAAAAANT Usually not a fan of blond hair but I love it on her.

Also I can't believe it hit 5 million but I'm so glad it did. Boss revenge sounds so cool! Hopefully it'll get made someday, maybe they'll keep accepting paypal donations after? Like MN9 did with voice acting, although that didn't raise much beyond 100k IIRC.

 

[ShogunDarius]

we need 1 achievement, hmm

 

[Nosgoroth]

Ack, $5.5M for a cool mode. Needs around 300k in eight hours, or 38k per hour.

Backer Achievements, then... number of backers is a no go, same for twitter followers and retweets. Youtube needs almost 50k views. Comics is hard to know anything. Hard to help with cosplays. I don't know jack about Vines.

 

[shanafan]

Nevermind

 

[names2hard4you]

Miriam looks great in that costume. And new goal at $5.5M?! I wouldn't be surprised if we made it, but I'm content with what we have. The roguelike mode is God tier.

 

[Alex_Mexico]

They can't modify the page once it starts, but at the end of the campaign, you'll get a survey that will ask you to specify the platform you want the game on.

Incredible news for reaching $5 million. This must be so rewarding for IGA to stick this in the face of so many doubters, on top of being able to continue doing what he does best.

Not at the end. More like a few months who're launch of the game.

Hell, Mighty No 9's campaign ended in October 2013, the game launches in September 2015 and they've yet to send their platform surveys!

 

[Dominic_Shade]

I've never backed anything before so I have one quick question, I want to get a digital copy but I don't know how much longer I'll be living at this place. If I were to move would it be easy to change where I get it shipped to?

Generally, Kickstarters like these will set up a customer service email where you can request to change your address.

 

[Pejo]

Well, I got on my phone and finally backed for 60. Chose the Physical Copy. This is my very first kickstarter project backed, and I hope it doesn't bite me in the ass later.

How do they handle Steam physical copies of the game? You get a disc in a case that has a big sticker on it with the steam code or what?

 

[Giolon]

Could I still raise my pledged after the kickstarter is over? I'm a bit short on cash now

Yes, it's in their FAQ:

Can I upgrade my pledge later?

Yes, you will have a chance to upgrade your pledge in our survey after the kickstarter ends, as well as add-on additional tiers!

 

[kunonabi]

That pure Miriam costume looks amaaaazing

That looks so much better than her default costume.

 

[shanafan]

New stretch goal!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night/posts/1262173

You have been so overzealous in your pursuit of stretch goals that you're now poised to take revenge... on our dauntless heroes. At $5.5 million you have the opportunity to unlock Boss Revenge Mode:
Control several different bosses
Utilize their special attacks to wreak havok
Explore a new BOSS REVENGE area
Turn the tables and defeat &#8220;Hero&#8221; Bosses in your pursuit of humanity's destruction
Can you do it? It may depend on how quickly you can recruit new members into your army.

 

[Red Arremer]

How do they handle Steam physical copies of the game? You get a disc in a case that has a big sticker on it with the steam code or what?

You will get the Steam code sent through Email on the day the game releases, and eventually a physical disc.

 

[Yazuka]

Yes, it's in their FAQ:

Doh. I totally missed that. Thank you.

 

[Darkspineslayer]

Would a $28 pledge for the PC version get me in on the beta? I'm going to assume no cross buy for the time being and say my current pledge is earmarked for the Playstation platforms.

 

[Nosgoroth]

Would a $28 pledge for the PC version get me in on the beta? I'm going to assume no cross buy for the time being and say my current pledge is earmarked for the Playstation platforms.

Nope, beta is $60+.

 

[wiibomb]

New update & stretch goal: $5.5 Million unlocks "Boss Revenge Mode":

- Control several different bosses
- Utilize their special attacks to wreak havok
- Explore a new BOSS REVENGE area
- Turn the tables and defeat “Hero” Bosses in your pursuit of humanity's destruction

Also, if one more backer achievement is obtained (60), then a new "pure costume" will be available for Miriam.

ok, I just had to back this thing because of this stretch.. it would be amazing if it happens

 

[AmethystEnd]

New update & stretch goal: $5.5 Million unlocks "Boss Revenge Mode":

- Control several different bosses
- Utilize their special attacks to wreak havok
- Explore a new BOSS REVENGE area
- Turn the tables and defeat “Hero” Bosses in your pursuit of humanity's destruction

Also, if one more backer achievement is obtained (60), then a new "pure costume" will be available for Miriam.

When I first read your post, I thought you were typing up an idea you had. Didn't notice the link to the update. All I can do is echo the above poster going

YAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS

 

[Darkspineslayer]

Nope, beta is $60+.

I see. To spin it a different way then, my current $125 pledge could take PS4 and PC, get me in on the beta, and the Vita version would be covered at $28?

 

[The Lamonster]

I love Pure Mariam. Is that going to be playable in-game?

 

[Gbraga]

That pure Miriam costume looks amaaaazing

Holy shit!!!

Is it wrong that I'm far, far more excited for this than the new stretch goal?

I hope this isn't the only alt! More costumes, Inti, plssss

 

[Theonik]

QUICK EVERYONE COSPLAY AS JOHANES SO WE CAN GET PURE MIRIAM.

Holy shit!!!

Is it wrong that I'm far, far more excited for this than the new stretch goal?

I hope this isn't the only alt! More costumes, Inti, plssss

If you think about it, the prequel game will feature Pure Miriam.

 

[Nosgoroth]

I see. To spin it a different way then, my current $125 pledge could take PS4 and PC, get me in on the beta, and the Vita version would be covered at $28?

That you can do. PS4 physical + PC digital (with beta), Vita digital add-on.

 

[Hellraizah]

Caved in and upped my initial pledge of 65$ for 1 physical copy to 130$ for 2 physical copies.

I really want the physical Vita game as my heart still beats to the reliability and longevity of a cart, but my guess is that, since it is a port handled by a different team, I think there are good chances that the Vita and Wii U version will come out later than the other versions.

So my choice is now :

1 physical Vita copy
1 physical PS4 copy (even though I don't own a PS4 rightt now)

 

[Lain]

Pure Miriam costume has to happen!

That new last stretch sounds pretty great too. What a kickstarter.

 

[Wanderer5]

Yes, it's in their FAQ:

I probably be tempted then to upgrade since it probably be a bit of a while before they do that.XD

 

[Red Arremer]

QUICK EVERYONE COSPLAY AS JOHANES SO WE CAN GET PURE MIRIAM.

I think it'd be much easier to get (less than) 3000 retweets.

I love Pure Mariam. Is that going to be playable in-game?

If we are able to get one more social media "achievement", then yes.