Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I feel like this analogy isn't particularly good.
Giant Bomb @ E3 2015 | L.A. on Lockdown
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Dan said no panel tonight on the chat.
I think the problem for me is that their complaints are not unreasonable, but there was alot to like from this and they seem to not say that as much.
Focus on the critiques because that is your job, but also give credit to a fun conference that has some shit that seemed impossible happen in it. This stuff is not binary and they can level the complaints without stepping back from what make this conference interesting.
Focus on the critiques because that is your job, but also give credit to a fun conference that has some shit that seemed impossible happen in it. This stuff is not binary and they can level the complaints without stepping back from what make this conference interesting.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Boils down to you shouldn't want it because I don't want it. And doesn't factor in someone like me that never really got to play it on the PlayStation and had to see it secondhand or buy the guide and read it from from to back cover.
bean breath
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They should have just cancelled the trip. How can they be expected to work so soon after the passing of the "American Dream" Dusty Rhodes?
Their hearts are just not in it.
a secret-boss
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siding with MS and not his system of choice (SONY PS4)
like in what context is this if? like in who this conference was good for? I mean sure, you and a lot of people are outside his qualifier, but that's why he made the qualifier.
Zen_Arcade
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They just hired a guy whose GOTY last year was Fantasy Life. Which is about as far out of the realm of a GB praised game as you can get.
DontBeThatGuy
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I highly doubt that. Dan can just get quiet.
ScaryShark
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Starts tomorrow.
TharpDaddy
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They don't start those until the floor opens. Schedule is in the OP.
nckillthegrimace
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Jeff, we saw Mario Maker for like an hour last night. It's not going to be there.
Mario Maker.
Mario Maker.
The point about Steam doesn't really hold water is my one issue with the analysis, Steam isn't a new player and hasn't changed significant as a service recently so the concept that Sony is going to lose ground to Steam doesn't really hold, it feels like a failure to separate the core type who visit message boards an' shit and the wider audience.
The other stuff is basically just factually correct, even Sony was forced to admit the line-up this year is iffy.
The other stuff is basically just factually correct, even Sony was forced to admit the line-up this year is iffy.
I do agree with the guys about the lackluster 1st party, but I dunno I have so much that I want to play on my PC Backlog that I'm ok just getting a few things a year with my PS4.
I've changed recently that I'm not too much of a Pre-order guy. Maybe Unity changed me since I never played more then a few seconds while waiting for it to be fixed and never really went back to it yet.
I've just got so much shit to play it's just hard for me to get excited about new games until the release date actually comes close and I've seen enough to possibly get day one, but most likely I'll wait a month or two to scope things out.
Anyway this is just the ramblings of a man who has a hard time expressing myself so sorry if it makes no sense.
I've changed recently that I'm not too much of a Pre-order guy. Maybe Unity changed me since I never played more then a few seconds while waiting for it to be fixed and never really went back to it yet.
I've just got so much shit to play it's just hard for me to get excited about new games until the release date actually comes close and I've seen enough to possibly get day one, but most likely I'll wait a month or two to scope things out.
Anyway this is just the ramblings of a man who has a hard time expressing myself so sorry if it makes no sense.
Ninja Scooter
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E3 is all smoke and mirrors though. I mean, what are we really talking about? Who "won" a trade show? Sony just seems better at playing this particular game than everyone else.
I get some of their complaints with regards to first party offerings, but there is a point where you are not in touch with the average consumer. Your average consumer is not saying "Why get a PS4 when I can just build a PC for $800?!?"
I get some of their complaints with regards to first party offerings, but there is a point where you are not in touch with the average consumer. Your average consumer is not saying "Why get a PS4 when I can just build a PC for $800?!?"
Spirit of Jazz
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Why not? I'm a God damn idiot and managed to build a cheap PC 3 and a half years ago that's capable of running Witcher 3 better than the PS4.
ScaryShark
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Haha yeah. That's the thing, what he stated didn't even denigrate Sony!
DeepEnigma
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I can agree with this.
Sorry but 8-4's "hype train" E3 podcasts can't be beat
bean breath
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He was very talkative during the MS and EA conferences. I think Dusty's passing finally hit him while he was watching the Raw stream on his laptop.
Mario Maker.
Bam Bam Baklava
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This isn't about fanboyism. It's about being sick of them shitting all over everything all the time for no reason other than their pervasive cynicism. This is at least 6 years in the making of seeing them with the same tepid "everything sucks" responses to stuff at E3.
The_Inquisitor
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What did they add to the conference with their cynicism? What does making fun of presenters add to the perspective I am watching?
HotHamWater
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Deus Ex gotta show up somewhere.
It always seems like their statements are general but aren't because they don't mention the things I care for so it could be just something i believe, personally i think they believe they are universal and reflect on reality "world wide". But i don't really care, like i said no one is a king here on the opinion board , no one has the title that prevents them to be ignored.
I think they were expecting more than a few minutes and a reel with games. Demoing VR on a screen is really hard, you lose all the experience of being inside the game, maybe that's why they just did it that way.
MetroidPrimeRib
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I think it's good to have both.
Pops Maellard
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Seriously guys, everything they said was valid. Sony presser wasn't amazing just because it had a kickstarter and The Last Guardian. I'm as excited about those two titles as the rest of you guys, but that doesn't change the fact that overall the conference was lacking in first party stuff.
And just cause
couldnt have said it better
Building a pc has become trivial. Especially with neogaf's "I need a new PC" community and reddit's /r/buildapc, and that's coming from someone that despises most of reddit.
DontBeThatGuy
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You seem very invested in a site you only watch once or twice a year. Do you though.
ScaryShark
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Very good post.
I definitely thinks Sony plays 'the game' of E3 the best and definitely knows how to pander to their base the best. It's not surprising that people who have worked in this industry for as long as the GB crew has aren't phased by it.
The last 3 years they've been amazing at playing to the crowd and making people happy. But it does distract from the fact that they've been taking a very MS approach by focusing on third parties and now having a weak first party lineup for the 3rd holiday in a row.
In 2013 they hit that price and DRM announcement but left their launch lineup weak. Last year they announced one game to pad out their lineup: LBP3. Obviously it wasn't enough. And now again we got nothing and not even a date for NMS.
This conference was exciting as hell, but yes as always it does feel ultimately weak in terms of delivering something coming soon that I can't get anywhere else.
bean breath
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His mind is somewhere else:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/s...onal-wrestlings-everyman-dies-at-69.html?_r=0
What an interesting display of certain people in this thread requiring a positive confirmation from the guys to match their own excitement, and when they are unable to receive said matching feelings they go to insulting the Giant Bomb crew in various ways, as if it affects them personally that someone isn't as excited as they are.
stump sock
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if you haven't figured out, over the course of 6 years, that you don't like the site... what the hell are you doing with your life?
probably worth pointing out again that this thread is for the GB audience to talk about E3, not an open door to air grievances with GB and shit up the thread
Antiwhippy
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You're not very good at parsing arguments beyond "This is awesome!" "This sucks!" are you? They made a lot of points that are beyond just "everything sucks."
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