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Cindro said:
Have they said when their Sony conference archive will go up? I'm planning on watching the Sony conference within the next 30 minutes (I've managed to stay spoiler free up to this point), and would love to watch their commentary, but it doesn't seem to be on the site yet.
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Wondering the same thing.
 
SteveWinwood said:
what in the hell is going on in here
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People are getting upset at people being happy about games and not being happy about games

I appreciate Giant Bomb's more chilled analysis of Sony's current situation. It's still very reminiscent of how Sony tends to turn out in their console cycles. Really rough short terms, but really great long term.

But at the same time in the end those are still all games I'm probably going to buy regardless of whatever people complain about

Also I disagree with Brad. FF7RE is a fucking HOMERUN for Square Enix and Sony. If that ACTUALLY comes out, it's gonna be another global big deal the same way it was back then. I wonder if it's the game that wins back Japan.
 
i don't care about Shenmue or FF but that was still fun to watch. it just had a great pace to it and there were a lot of announcements. Horizon could be something and The Last Guardian was great even if it was a downgrade from 6 years ago.
and yeah Sony is pretty dry with first-party exclusives this year, but it's not like there aren't any games coming out.
 
there's some sort of irony in how people coming here to complain about GB's alleged negativity and cynicism turned this thread into something altogether more negative than any of the streams were.
 
Yo can someone post the meme guy cut out again. I don't remember where ubisoft is in the thread and I need it for reasons.

edit: Here it is.
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Bam Bam Baklava said:
To me, it shows that people are using "professional" to defend perpetual negativity in which a room full of 6-8 people seem to all be down on the same thing at nearly all times. How does that even happen? You get that many people in a room and usually there's difference in opinions.

But that's just my opinion. Like I was saying, I watched about 4 minutes and changed to something else like people here have suggested doing. I'm only responding back now because a lot of people responded to my post. If you just wanna see a bunch of guys who have seen it all before and are not phased by any of it, then more power to you. I guess I'm still a sucker for the hype once every couple E3s.
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Look man, I think the problem was that you watched for four minutes of a two hour conference + post show, and are willing to make a judgement on their whole coverage based on it. That's pretty unfair. There were plenty of positive things said all day today and last night, and they had a difference of opinion plenty of times. They might not be jumping around with hype like some other places, but it's not like they were sour on everything they saw today.

But like you said, maybe you just want different coverage from E3. That's fine, I was right in the stream threads all day watching people get excited at shit and getting excited at times with them. But afterwards I like to come to GB and watch them be the levelers who take emotion out of things and try and break it down from there. Neither way is wrong, but watching a bunch of people come in here complaining that the GB guys aren't acting like everyone else is pretty irritating when GB is one of the only sites where I can get coverage like this in the first place.
 
Can someone give me a non-youtube Sony link? YTs not working in Germany and the /chat/ link also leads nowhere atm
 
As someone that loved FF7 when it came out, why would I want it again over a full-fledged, new Final Fantasy?

We've already played through that experience. But, I haven't bought a single remaster, so maybe I'm just not the type of person that is being pandered to. If people want to buy the same game again, more power to them, but as someone that adored FF 7-10, this makes me actively dislike Square's direction.

But, seeing the positive praise and how much it will likely sell, it's no wonder they are doing it. Especially with how lack-luster the last few games in the series have been. Why try to build a new experience when you can take a smaller workload and probably see a bigger profit margin?
 
Man-is-Obsolete said:
I don't know how anyone can take that as an objective statement. That game will literally print money on release. They could spend $100 million in resources on this thing and it would still be worth it for them.
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He has zero interest in FF7 in 2015(like me) but yeah, he really wasn't thinking things through when he made that comment.
 
Alucrid said:
pretty sure the giantbomb fan's reaction to the gt gif is far worse
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I feel like there's a difference between a laid, back weekly show where you play old things and how you act while covering a conference. Giantbomb is certainly one of the sillier gaming sites but there's a time for professionalism and they realize that.

I just don't get why anyone would want to watch adults jump around like children during marketing spiels *shrug* Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
 
Zen_Arcade said:
Look man, I think the problem was that you watched for four minutes of a two hour conference + post show, and are willing to make a judgement on their whole coverage based on it. That's pretty unfair. There were plenty of positive things said all day today and last night, and they had a difference of opinion plenty of times. They might not be jumping around with hype like some other places, but it's not like they were sour on everything they saw today.

But like you said, maybe you just want different coverage from E3. That's fine, I was right in the stream threads all day watching people get excited at shit and getting excited at times with them. But afterwards I like to come to GB and watch them be the levelers who take emotion out of things and try and break it down from there. Neither way is wrong, but watching a bunch of people come in here complaining that the GB guys aren't acting like everyone else is pretty irritating when GB is one of the only sites where I can get coverage like this in the first place.
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First of all, I've been watching them for 7 years. The first few being pretty much the only place I went to for this kind of stuff. This is not an analysis based on 4 minutes, it is based on years. Secondly, it's not that I expect them to lose their fucking minds, it's just that I'm at a point where I'm tired of the constant negativity year after year. They put more effort into their snarky jokes during the conferences than actually being excited for anything.

I feel like we've both made where we stand pretty clear. Why not let the thread move on and I'll back out of here with my criticism.
 
FStop7 said:
I just realized The Witness was a no show. I was anticipating a longer demo and a release date.
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Even though it was shown off at the Sony reveal show in 2013 it's really still a PC indie game at the end of the day. Jon Blow will release whenever he wants. It'll probably get a date about a month before release and that'll be that.
 
KnightHart said:
Also I disagree with Brad. FF7RE is a fucking HOMERUN for Square Enix and Sony. If that ACTUALLY comes out, it's gonna be another global big deal the same way it was back then. I wonder if it's the game that wins back Japan.
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we'll see, I guess. depends if they're still fighting on a "hearts and minds" platform or if they plan to turn a profit, because the latter...

I mean, shit, that game is going to be expensive to remake. and I know this is kind of a special case, but jrpgs aren't typically barn burners sales-wise.
 
JJDubz said:
As someone that loved FF7 when it came out, why would I want it again over a full-fledged, new Final Fantasy?

We've already played through that experience. But, I haven't bought a single remaster, so maybe I'm just not the type of person that is being pandered to. If people want to buy the same game again, more power to them, but as someone that adored FF 7-10, this makes me actively dislike Square's direction.

But, seeing the positive praise and how much it will likely sell, it's no wonder they are doing it. Especially with how lack-luster the last few games in the series have been. Why try to build a new experience when you can take a smaller workload and probably see a bigger profit margin?
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I thought they are doing a new Final Fantasy currently? Well two if you count the new one announced at E3.
 
stump sock said:
we'll see, I guess. depends if they're still fighting on a "hearts and minds" platform or if they plan to turn a profit, because the latter...

I mean, shit, that game is going to be expensive to remake. and I know this is kind of a special case, but jrpgs aren't typically barn burners sales-wise.
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I mean, people do want it, and Sony is finally giving it to them, as some of GB said(Jeff included). I'm sure it will do fine.
 
JJDubz said:
As someone that loved FF7 when it came out, why would I want it again over a full-fledged, new Final Fantasy?

We've already played through that experience. But, I haven't bought a single remaster, so maybe I'm just not the type of person that is being pandered to. If people want to buy the same game again, more power to them, but as someone that adored FF 7-10, this makes me actively dislike Square's direction.

But, seeing the positive praise and how much it will likely sell, it's no wonder they are doing it. Especially with how lack-luster the last few games in the series have been. Why try to build a new experience when you can take a smaller workload and probably see a bigger profit margin?
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They do have 15 coming out in the future.
 
ricochetguro said:
I feel like there's a difference between a laid, back weekly show where you play old things and how you act while covering a conference. Giantbomb is certainly one of the sillier gaming sites but there's a time for professionalism and they realize that.

I just don't get why anyone would want to watch adults jump around like children during marketing spiels *shrug* Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
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i still don't see where i asked for them to jump around but ok
 
This makes me really miss the old 1up E3 days :(. Theres always the right amount of joy/hype as well as concern and cynicism. Giantbomb is just depressing to watch. Why would I want to watch a bunch of guys looking bored and shitting on everything in a medium that I love? Thats like only watching movies with people who always just points out flaws in movies and tells everyone how bad it is and how much they hate it. I don't need GT level reactions but some joy every now and then would be nice.
 
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Cirekiller said:
This makes me really miss the old 1up E3 days :(. Theres always the right amount of joy/hype as well as concern and cynicism. Giantbomb is just depressing to watch. Why would I want to watch a bunch of guys looking bored and shitting on everything in a medium that I love?
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It is kind of like a bunch of people coming in here to talk shit about the Giant Bomb guys because they don't agree with their opinions.

We can tell you don't actually watch them. Its okay.
 
DontBeThatGuy said:
I mean, people do want it, and Sony is finally giving it to them, as some of GB said(Jeff included). I'm sure it will do fine.
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I don't have any interest in it personally, but it'd be pretty cool if it does end up being successful. I'm just glad I'm not one of the people who had to make the decision to fund it or not

Xeteh said:
Skip summon animations for $4.99
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I would have gladly paid for that in XII
 
Jintor said:
man if you've got to make an effort to be excited i suspect you're probably just not excited over the thing in question
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Which brings us back to the part where it strikes me like some of them act as though they are prisoners in their careers. How do you go years and years without being excited over the medium you've chosen to dedicate your career to? It defies logic.
 
Man-is-Obsolete said:
I don't know how anyone can take that as an objective statement. That game will literally print money on release. They could spend $100 million in resources on this thing and it would still be worth it for them.
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I'm pretty sure he is viewing it as someone who had his fill of FF7 18 years ago and would rather that money be allocated to new projects. Which is completely reasonable.
 
stump sock said:
we'll see, I guess. depends if they're still fighting on a "hearts and minds" platform or if they plan to turn a profit, because the latter...

I mean, shit, that game is going to be expensive to remake. and I know this is kind of a special case, but jrpgs aren't typically barn burners sales-wise.
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It almost feels like Final Fantasy 7 Remake is just some gigantic JRPG ultimatum. I'm probably reading into it too much, but there's something really amazing about how a remake of FF7 is gonna be the one that brings JRPG's back into the mainstream in a meaningful way

Because if a fucking full remake of Final Fantasy 7 can't hit it big, what chance is there for any other JRPG.
 
Honestly I just want to see how the remake handles any of the offbeat humour that was ingrained into FF7 either in the side quests, the animations or the monster designs.

They'll probably just cut most of it and make it very dour and serious.
 
Bam Bam Baklava said:
Which brings us back to the part where it strikes me like some of them act as though they are prisoners in their careers. How do you go years and years without being excited over the medium you've chosen to dedicate your career to? It defies logic.
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They do get excited about games. Please just stop.
 
Cirekiller said:
This makes me really miss the old 1up E3 days :(. Theres always the right amount of joy/hype as well as concern and cynicism. Giantbomb is just depressing to watch. Why would I want to watch a bunch of guys looking bored and shitting on everything in a medium that I love? Thats like only watching movies with people who always just points out flaws in movies and tells everyone how bad it is and how much they hate it. I don't need GT level reactions but some joy every now and then would be nice.
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How were they depressing? Almost every game got either a "looks great", "looks interesting", or so on and so forth. The one game that I thought had an odd reception was FF7 and that was only Brad being overwhelmingly negative without actually explaining why he thought a remake of one of the most popular games of all time was a waste.

All of them were actively positive about Guerrilla's new game for example.
 
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