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call_kotaku said:
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I'm so disgusted that the giantbomb crew didn't have the journalistic integrity to get hype for a major publisher announcing a crowdfunding campaign and an HD remake as the two core pieces of an E3 presentation. Shame on you giantbomb
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Microsoft doesn't rate? Bias!
 
Giant Bomb has lost me as a listener. They have just proven they are not passionate about video games in one single moment.

Maybe they don't like FF7? OK, then shit on Shenmue 3 announcement after it? How can they hate both?

They all appear to be dead inside cynical hosts and I don't want to listen to their video game opinions anymore.

You can have some joy in your heart and still be critical.
 
Tabris said:
Giant Bomb has lost me as a listener. They have just proven they are not passionate about video games in one single moment.

Maybe they don't like FF7? OK, then shit on Shenmue 3 announcement after it? How can they hate both?

They all appear to be dead inside cynical hosts and I don't want to listen to their video game opinions anymore.

You can have some joy in your heart and still be critical when it matters.
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Jesus christ, stop being so salty about them not liking this as much as you do O.o but I guess I wouldn't be a good E3 without people having a meltdown :P
 
Dan seemed uncharacteristically quiet for these E3 things. I hope he's okay. I miss his scratchy voice. But yeah I think I'm just gonna watch Nintendo's Direct without the commentary. It can get pretty depressing listening to them sometimes.
 
Whitman's Ghost said:
I see the GB defense crew is alive and well.

No, I think people just expect them not to all be totally boring and cynical about everything ever. I've started to dislike the GB crew more and more since Ryan left us.
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I see no difference from them today than last year or most other live streams they talk over. Go back and watch them. It's the same tone and same constant joke cracking.

Edit: Lauged at the jokes today like I did last year
 
Tabris said:
Giant Bomb has lost me as a listener. They have just proven they are not passionate about video games in one single moment.

Maybe they don't like FF7? OK, then shit on Shenmue 3 announcement after it? How can they hate both?
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I was tricked by the Miyazaki Dark Souls 2 post but this is real right? This isn't satire, right?

They aren't super excited about 2 game series and suddenly they're cynical boring and soulless? Hilarious.

Jeff was all up in Need for Speed and it was clearly something he was excited for. Just because it isn't from your pool of games doesn't mean they're disinterested in all of gaming.
 
Tabris said:
Maybe they don't like FF7? OK, then shit on Shenmue 3 announcement after it? How can they hate both?
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i mean because all video game players must be enthusiastic about either ff7 or shenmue 3, preferably both, else you are not a real video game player. thus decrees us, the shadow video game council of 2015, hear our words and despair
 
I can very easily see how people would not be excited about FF7 or shemnue. By sheer virtue of me not being excited about FF7 or shemnue.

Still kinda excited in a zeitgiest sort of way but I really don't give a fuck about those games.
 
Antiwhippy said:
I can very easily see how people would not be excited about FF7 or shemnue. By sheer virtue of me not being excited about FF7 or shemnue.

Still kinda excited in a zeitgiest sort of way but I really don't give a fuck about those games.
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I feel the same. Would have rather had two cool new IPs.
 
Zocano said:
I was tricked by the Miyazaki Dark Souls 2 post but this is real right? This isn't satire, right?

They aren't super excited about 2 game series and suddenly they're cynical boring and soulless? Hilarious.

Jeff was all up in Need for Speed and it was clearly something he was excited for. Just because it isn't from your pool of games doesn't mean they're disinterested in all of gaming.
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Jeff is my least favorite GB guy by far mostly. I just don't get him nor am I entertained by him in the slightest. His love for NFS is ridiculous. This is guy who shat on DC on podcasts and in his review and then suddenly jumps for joy for what amounts to another hyper car cruiser.

For the record I love both games. NFS HP and DC are two of my favorite racing games. And it isn't just that. He is cynical about everything to the point I wonder why he is in the industry anymore.

Also why is it okay to defend GB in here but not to criticize them? This thread is being a little perverse. I don't mind a couple of the guys at all.
 
Bento said:
Jesus christ, stop being so salty about them not liking this as much as you do O.o but I guess I wouldn't be a good E3 without people having a meltdown :P
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I'm not salty, just stating they've lost a listener.

Even if not interested in those specific games (none of them were?), if you're passionate about the entire industry, this should be something to be excited about. Even just from a "Wow they actually announced that. So many of you have waited so long for them." perspective.

chaobreaker said:
Do the Dew, motherfucker!
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Shenmue is the opposite of the Dew and Doritos.
 
Guess not everyone still gives a shit about FF7, TLG, or Shenmue. Guess I'm also one of those people.

Especially, SE where I'd much rather see something new. Brad said it best, what a waste of time and money.
 
Whitman's Ghost said:
Jeff is my least favorite GB guy by far mostly. I just don't get him nor am I entertained by him in the slightest. His love for NFS is ridiculous. This is guy who shat on DC on podcasts and in his review and then suddenly jumps for joy for what amounts to another hyper car cruiser.

For the record I love both games. NFS HP and DC are two of my favorite racing games. And it isn't just that. He is cynical about everything to the point I wonder why he is in the industry anymore.
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He has said *multiple* times why he prefers one over the other and what had got him super excited about this new Need for Speed. I don't understand what would be cynical at all about that.

Tabris said:
Even if not interested in those specific games (none of them were?), if you're passionate about the entire industry, this should be something to be excited about. Even just from a "Wow they actually announced that. So many of you have waited so long for them." perspective.
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So you want them to feign interest and excitement? They mentioned multiple times before and after that it'd be cool to see them pop up (adding that they'd prefer actual release dates). Them not losing their shit somehow makes them less respectable?
 
Whitman's Ghost said:
Jeff is my least favorite GB guy by far mostly. I just don't get him nor am I entertained by him in the slightest. His love for NFS is ridiculous. This is guy who shat on DC on podcasts and in his review and then suddenly jumps for joy for what amounts to another hyper car cruiser.

For the record I love both games. NFS HP and DC are two of my favorite racing games. And it isn't just that. He is cynical about everything to the point I wonder why he is in the industry anymore.

Also why is it okay to defend GB in here but not to criticize them? This thread is being a little perverse. I don't mind a couple of the guys at all.
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God you are so cynical of Jeff Gerstmann.

Can't you be more enthusiastic about jeff gerstmann if you are in the ginatbomb thread industry?
 
Tabris said:
Giant Bomb has lost me as a listener. They have just proven they are not passionate about video games in one single moment.

Maybe they don't like FF7? OK, then shit on Shenmue 3 announcement after it? How can they hate both?

They all appear to be dead inside cynical hosts and I don't want to listen to their video game opinions anymore.

You can have some joy in your heart and still be critical.
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Dude, it's an HD remake and a kickstarter announcement. They can recognize "Hey, I'm sure other people will really enjoy this" and still not be personally excited for it themselves. Such absurd things to hang your hat on when trying to say "They're dead inside cynical."
 
wow it's almost like there's a diversity of views being represented by people with disparate viewpoints instead of all-encompassing hype machine. bizarre
 
I probably should have known what the discussion was going to be coming into this thread for the first time tonight.

I get that you want people to be excited for the things you're excited about. At the same time, if you've been following Giantbomb for any decent amount of time, you should know you wont get that from these guys. Its not exactly anything new or surprising. Thats coming from someone thats been a GB subscriber for years and is a huge fan of the site.

If you want more general, optimistic reactions and opinions, im sure the gametrailers and gamespot pre/post show have you covered. Should be as simple as that. Having options is a great thing!
 
Lol, you guys

Both ff7 and Shemnue are appealing
pandering
to similar types of people who have nostalgia for when Japan was more relevant. It's completely obvious why not everyone will get super excited about those. Especially when one is a CG trailer and the other a Kickstarter. This is 2017/18 shit
 
People having different opinion on games? Unheard of! They must be down with the devil or something equally sinister
like a conspiracy follow the money
!
 
f0rk said:
Lol, you guys

Both ff7 and Shemnue are appealing
pandering
to similar types of people who have nostalgia for when Japan was more relevant. It's completely obvious why not everyone will get super excited about those. Especially when one is a CG trailer and the other a Kickstarter. This is 2017/18 shit
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this is important as well, i think the gb crew are smart enough to realize that even if these are big games, they're most likely three or four years away. like they said, 2015 sony is looking bare
 
Not being able to appreciate Shenmue and FFVII is like not being able to appreciate Tetris, Mario, Pacman, Metal Gear Solid, Zelda, etc - These are parts of video game history.
 
Whitman's Ghost said:
It's not being salty, the guys are just getting annoying at this point for some people.
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Of course it is, this is the definition of salty. People normally want these guys to be bluntly honest about their opinions especially when it's truth bombs about shit they don't like. Now however as the edge is turned against shit they like people freak out :P

Even if not interested in those specific games (none of them were?), if you're passionate about the entire industry, this should be something to be excited about. Even just from a "Wow they actually announced that. So many of you have waited so long for them." perspective.
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So you simply want some pandering yes men or what? Faked entusiasm sucks fucking balls :P

Worth mentioning is that I thought the reveals were dope as hell but I'm totally fine with people not sharing the entusiasm. But I do think it's time that some people find themselves a new home for their game coverage. It's obvious that Giantbomb is not what some of the people in this community are looking for.
 
people throwing the word "cynicism" around in this thread like it's akin to being labelled a Nazi or a woman-beater.

if anything, Giant Bomb in general is a panel of skeptics.
 
Tabris said:
Not being able to appreciate Shenmue and FFVII is like not being able to appreciate Tetris, Mario, Pacman, Metal Gear Solid, Zelda, etc - These are parts of video game history.
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I've never appreciated Zelda and Mario either. Where do I hand in my being able to appreciate games card.
 
It sucks that they didnt enjoy the announcements but this is how Giantbombs rolls. Still gonna listen to them cause I enjoy their coverage. I respect opinions.
 
Tabris said:
Not being able to appreciate Shenmue and FFVII is like not being able to appreciate Tetris, Mario, Pacman, Metal Gear Solid, Zelda, etc - These are parts of video game history.
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I've never heard anyone mention Shenmue in real life, and you can appreciate ff7 without being excited for a remake. How about they make Final Fantasy 18 or whatever something to be excited about instead
 
Tabris said:
Not being able to appreciate Shenmue and FFVII is like not being able to appreciate Tetris, Mario, Pacman, Metal Gear Solid, Zelda, etc - These are parts of video game history.
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You're delusional if you think shenmue is on the same level as any of those games you listed. Gaf is pretty much the only place I ever hear people talk about shenmue
 
f0rk said:
I've never heard anyone mention Shenmue in real life, and you can appreciate ff7 without being excited for a remake. How about they make Final Fantasy 18 or whatever something to be excited about instead
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There was not a single video game that needed a graphical remake ever than FFVII.

FFVII was released at an unfortunate time and had an interrupted development cycle between two different machines that resulted in a very disjointed visual style. It is very hard to go back to and play. No issues with FFVI and FFVIII.

You're delusional if you think shenmue is on the same level as any of those games you listed. Gaf is pretty much the only place I ever hear people talk about shenmue
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Shenmue was the swan song of Sega. It revolutionized video game stories. And it showed what video game budgets were going to become.

SEGATA SANSHIRO is very disappointed in you.
 
Tabris said:
Not being able to appreciate Shenmue and FFVII is like not being able to appreciate Tetris, Mario, Pacman, Metal Gear Solid, Zelda, etc - These are parts of video game history.
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I don't appreciate some of those games you listed. Who cares if people do or don't. People need to stop expecting validation of their opinions and things they are deeply invested in from online gaming personalities.
 
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