and then people wonder why Bungie does this.
Bungie defends Destiny: The Taken King's £/$40 price tag (Eurogamer)
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and then people wonder why Bungie does this.
Well I guess it was foolish of me to expect them to sympathize with players who want the digital extras in the CE but don't want to rebuy content. What a shame because I never buy CEs of games but I was willing to buy this one. I'll just go with the standard $40 edition, but man it kind of irks me how they leave us day 1 players out in the cold with some of this stuff.
bananafactory
Banned
It's 79.99 for the game, the first 2 expansions, and The Taken King
Considering their cash cow of CoD has actually been adding value to their pass for once (new weapons finally in addition to maps and an occasional game mode and new cosmetic gear to earn in AW), I do wonder if Activision is getting blamed for what may actually be Bungie's crimes.
Rex Griswold
Member
Tell me more..
Destiny 2 is DoA to me, so I'd like to get as much as I can out of this game.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
His answers on the exclusive collectors edition stuff is embarrassing. He is just saying I don't care, if you want those other things then you'll have to buy the game again. Really horrible attitude to have. There's no reason they can't offer those to people for a small fee or maybe give them to people who already have the game and both expansions already.
Kor of Memory
Member
I'm bias, but I thought Luke's response was hilarious.
It seems like the interviewer was trying to pick a fight with Luke over the pricing. Luke is a freaking developer. He designed the Raids for Destiny. He doesn't design the pricing models. Yet the interviewer was insistent on asking him questions unrelated to his field. So Luke decided to have some fun with him.
You can watch another interview with Luke here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHfq7KY1JU4&feature=youtu.be&t=2h35m38s
He's probably the most direct and honest developer I've ever seen. He doesn't sugar coat anything. He just lays it out.
It seems like the interviewer was trying to pick a fight with Luke over the pricing. Luke is a freaking developer. He designed the Raids for Destiny. He doesn't design the pricing models. Yet the interviewer was insistent on asking him questions unrelated to his field. So Luke decided to have some fun with him.
You can watch another interview with Luke here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHfq7KY1JU4&feature=youtu.be&t=2h35m38s
He's probably the most direct and honest developer I've ever seen. He doesn't sugar coat anything. He just lays it out.
Welp, that gives me even less of a reason to buy it.
Seriously, fuck that. That's just money grubbing, there's literally no reason to charge the same.
I'm cautiously optimistic, actually, about both the quality and quantity of content in Taken King. Partly based on the trajectory on both between The Dark Below -> House of Wolves, and partly based on what they showed at E3, which looks uniformly excellent and very different from what is in the game today. But a more complete inventory would certainly be welcome, especially in the context of the asking price.
The Lamonster
Member
man...that was brutal. almost uncomfortable. I think Luke did a fine job defending Destiny at the time. Jeff wasn't wrong, either. (video here)
However, this Eurogamer interview is quite underwhelming.
schaft0620
Member
The fucked up part is if you combine this expansion and the DLCs that have already came out you get 1 full game. Destiny had 1/2 of the content I expected it to have.
In the US and Canada spend 100 on PSN and get 15 back. It ends today though.
I don't see how the price tag is surprising. All post-merger Blizzard expansions have been $40. SC2, Diablo 3, and WoW have $40 xpacs; Warlords was a $50 xpac. If you are getting as much content in TTK as you did in say Mists of Pandaria, then I don't have a problem with it. That aside, there is no excuse for locking exclusive content behind the requirement of buying the original game again. Just release another digital deluxe version. Heck, even a digital deluxe plus version would be better than having to re-buy content.
panda-zebra
Member
After playing well over 1000 hours in the first 4 months (before sacking it off once and for all) I think I'm in a good position to say that fucking over the most dedicated players instead of rewarding them is exactly what Destiny does best, so that would be rather fitting.
As for the new $40£40 content itself - seems like what's in the bag is more like the amount of stuff I and my fellow players were expecting from the first two expansions. I can totally see a dozen or so of them jumping for joy at having more stuff to do over and over and over again night after night for another 4 months. If I was still playing I'd be having the CE and re-paying for the fancy arse version to go with my LE, now I might just buy it when it's a tenner, just to have it sit on the shelf and remain unplayed, as a testament to my resolve never to play Destiny again or any of its sequels... because fuck that game.
Yeah well I already own the Collectors Edition version plus all the current DLC. If I wanted the new stuff I have to spend 79.99 on stuff I already have plus the new DLC.
Lord Kefka
Banned
I have no problem with the price points honestly i paid 89.99 for the digital guardian pack and i have about 12 days worth of gameplay logged into destiny. I without question got my moneys worth and then some.....but my problem is the fact they didnt compensate for the fans who are playing today. How could they not have a system in place to see what fans have been playing since launch and reward them with the collectors edition features?
Diablohead
Member
Oh luke smith what has happened to you.
KingJ2002
Member
they are not hiding their cash grabbing agenda with the collectors edition.
I mean... it's for the "collectors"... the players that want everything in the game... the type of players that would buy a bungie nepal shirt just for the shader.
It makes no sense to a regular consumer who just expects the game to feature everything... but honestly... this is the result of the DLC era. It started with the promise of game expansion but 15 years later ended up as game fragmentation... and bungie has made it blatantly clear in this case.
Soooo... who's going to start the petition to try and fix this?
I mean... it's for the "collectors"... the players that want everything in the game... the type of players that would buy a bungie nepal shirt just for the shader.
It makes no sense to a regular consumer who just expects the game to feature everything... but honestly... this is the result of the DLC era. It started with the promise of game expansion but 15 years later ended up as game fragmentation... and bungie has made it blatantly clear in this case.
Soooo... who's going to start the petition to try and fix this?
bananafactory
Banned
I haven't played the game at launch, is the exclusive stuff really a big deal? It just sounds like some fluff to add value to the new version. I mean, emotes?
DeadManWalking
Member
40 pounds right now is 63 bucks. Really bungie? I'm sick of reading all the content they are bringing knowing that prices are out of control.
A reskin of what exactly?
SprachBrooks
Member
Haha fucking hell, they have no shame charging £40 for DLC, it costs as much as The switcher 3, which has an infinite more amount of content than this piece of shit game ever will. Fuck Bungie and Activision those money-grubbing cunts.
NullPointer
Member
And its still not quite the game it looks meant to be. There are signs its on the trajectory to getting there, but its slow going.
It needs a lot of content though, and I hope they do get serious about fully justifying the sticker price. Thats some damn expensive DLC.
Diablohead
Member
bungie/activision believe that $40 / £40 / euro40 are exactly the same value, destiny DLC so far has all be equally valued at the same 'price' over all regions lol.
Wait.. what?! £40?!!! What the hell?
I can understand the DLC being $40 as to be honest that is the normal rate for console DLC pack of this size (it should be $20 not $40!). At least that is what I was expect it to cost. But the $40 to £40 conversion rate is just madness especially at it is digital DLC. There is barely any extra logistical costs or anything!
Why not £30 if it is $40 in the US?!
It is probably decentish value for Destiny players who have spent 100s of hours on the base game but it is kind of disgusting it is almost a way to take them on a ride as they will have to get the DLC to continue playing with friends etc.
I can understand the DLC being $40 as to be honest that is the normal rate for console DLC pack of this size (it should be $20 not $40!). At least that is what I was expect it to cost. But the $40 to £40 conversion rate is just madness especially at it is digital DLC. There is barely any extra logistical costs or anything!
Why not £30 if it is $40 in the US?!
It is probably decentish value for Destiny players who have spent 100s of hours on the base game but it is kind of disgusting it is almost a way to take them on a ride as they will have to get the DLC to continue playing with friends etc.
KillerSloth
Banned
The base game is what 35% more then this? I dont see the issue here, I think some are ready to just hate on destiny without reason. game was 69.99 here this is 39. Seems fair to me, there is a nice bit of content in Taken king.
This isn't a defense... They know the situation is fucked up, but they are powerless to do anything about it...
I remember when Halo3:ODST went from being an expansion to a full fledged game, complete with launching at full price... People were pissed, both at Bungie and at MS, but it turned out that there was a ton of value in that package.
Fast forward to today, and it's like Bungie completely flipped the script and sold their soul to the devil... Instead of being pleasantly surprised at how much I got from my destiny purchase, I was shocked at how much I had to spend in order to have a decent experience.
I don't know how much of this is Bungie's doing and how much is Activision, but I do know that the name 'Bungie' is severely tarnished in my eyes...
I remember when Halo3:ODST went from being an expansion to a full fledged game, complete with launching at full price... People were pissed, both at Bungie and at MS, but it turned out that there was a ton of value in that package.
Fast forward to today, and it's like Bungie completely flipped the script and sold their soul to the devil... Instead of being pleasantly surprised at how much I got from my destiny purchase, I was shocked at how much I had to spend in order to have a decent experience.
I don't know how much of this is Bungie's doing and how much is Activision, but I do know that the name 'Bungie' is severely tarnished in my eyes...
AHA-Lambda
Member
Christ UK getting screwed! :-S
Rex Griswold
Member
Oh PSN..
benicillin
Banned
Already bought the collector's edition. Destiny is one of my favorite games this gen and it keeps getting better. Don't care, the value proposition is totally there for me.
This is also the biggest problem. It's like they're still building it as they go, rather than truly expanding the core experience; as an early player, it's unacceptable that the game still isn't what it could and should've been from the jump, even with positive steps being made.