Theonik
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Would be very weird to have dozens of westerners in a very small part of Rural China for no reason. I really don't feel they should do it.
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voices could get weird, but being an npc might work for chobu. it's meant to be a tourist spot anyway.
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yup, I feel like 4 million should be enough to create a game with at least the scale of shenmue 1. the first gears of war was made with 10 million, right?
Theonik
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Was it in the 80s though?
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Arcades outside of Japan and Asia have been so dead for years that it's not really worth talking about. Arcades in Japan and Asia are mostly dominated by familiar traditional franchises, and a shitload of card-driven stuff based on toy franchises targeting young kids.
My point is, if Sega didn't crater, Suzuki probably wouldn't have left and would have been in a position to produce more games. But they did crater, and there were less opportunities. And outside of Sega it was probably hard for Suzuki to get much funding to do the same shit he could do while at Sega, so he just.... went mobile like every other has-been Japanese developer.
yeah, i feel like everyone kind of forgets how relatively small both games are compared to most modern games. especially "open world" games
and sure shenmue 2 is a lot bigger than 1, but it also has a lot less attention to detail. so i feel they both kind of even out
another great post
Theonik
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Arcades died in the west, but arcade machines are still sold in western markets in 'Entertainment venues' the machines that are still being made and sold are large expensive speciality machines like Terminator salvation, Hang-On style bike games driving games etc.I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Arcades outside of Japan and Asia have been so dead for years that it's not really worth talking about. Arcades in Japan and Asia are mostly dominated by familiar traditional franchises, and a shitload of card-driven stuff based on toy franchises targeting young kids.
My point is, if Sega didn't crater, Suzuki probably wouldn't have left and would have been in a position to produce more games. But they did crater, and there were less opportunities. And outside of Sega it was probably hard for Suzuki to get much funding to do the same shit he could do while at Sega, so he just.... went mobile like every other has-been Japanese developer.
Activision even made an arcade version of Guitar Hero which I have actually seen in the wild a number of times. It's still a profitable market for this type of game.
Edit: In fact, that was the only part of SEGA's business the kept kicking in high gear in their dark years. Other directors in SEGA did get budgets to make the games that Yu liked to make but Yu would never be allowed the same amount of freedom ever since the Dreamcast died. He left to pursue mobile after hanging around SEGA for a while basically doing big. He really dislikes mobile though.
What are two or three simulation-style arcade games that are distributed globally? The only games I'm familiar with are action-heavy or have abstract handling. The Batman legacy racer, the Mario Kart arcade GP, and the bike-rider games I've seen in the last four years or so are what I come up with. I can't think of anything in line with F355 Challenge.
i mean if we're talking arcade games, we can go back to psy-phi briefly. modern phone games are kind of the arcade games of today, so when yu suzuki made a touch controlled arcade game in 2005, he was accurate in predicting the future of games.
the man's reputation as being ahead of his time is astounding.
the man's reputation as being ahead of his time is astounding.
Why would Western voices matter? Everyone you talked to in Yokosuka and HK (Xbox version) had American accents.
Shadow2222
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Even if I was against it, it would be a concession I would gladly make for the Kickstarter to receive more money (assuming the tiers are a few thousand dollars).
However, I'm not against it as long as they keep it limited. I don't see why there can't be 10-20 tourists spread thin throughout the game.
i mean recording quality.
Theonik
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But Shenmue didn't use it. iirc.
In part I would say because Yu Suzuki was one of the few directors in the space interested in pushing in that direction, but my point that the market for this kind of large complicated machine was the one that still survives.
I was thinking the 'Become an NPC' tiers mostly rather than just voice in the game. and yeah recording is a bit of a challenge, can't think of how other KS games tackled that.
It shouldn't be a problem if given proper direction during voice recordings. Though I wonder how it would work if the person, after paying thousands of dollars to be an NPC is told their voice recordings weren't good enough after many times trying. Obviously it's an idea that needs to be refined some more. But the fact that Suzuki and his team think is worth exploring indicates it's worth exploring.
Though obviously it would be voiceovers and not the persons face scanned into the game. American accents I can put up with but I still want to be able to see Chinese people, not Westerners in a country where foreigners were still a rarity even in big cities let alone small villages.
You're right, it doesn't. Was thinking of the DC in general. Shows me for not reading the question fully.
I don't know either but maybe Yu has something in mind.
it's not a direction issue. not all microphones are made equal, it'd be weird hearing the professional voice acting done in a sound booth on a good mic next to someone recording it from their phone in the bathroom.
Theonik
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And then having them come to the studio is impractical. It could end up being very expensive.
exactly. i think having the voice in the game will either be conditional, but just won't happen.
so i just had a moment in shenmue
ryo is kneeling in front of a virtua fighter capsule machine. it's after dark, the streets are empty, and it's raining. try after try he just can't get an actual virtua fighter figure, and just keeps getting junk.
that's how it's felt to be a shenmue fan for the last 14 years.
ryo is kneeling in front of a virtua fighter capsule machine. it's after dark, the streets are empty, and it's raining. try after try he just can't get an actual virtua fighter figure, and just keeps getting junk.
that's how it's felt to be a shenmue fan for the last 14 years.
"Maybe I should get another."
Bl@de
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Phew and I thought I was crazy for wanting that. Cheesy voiceacting is something I actually enjoy. Resident Evil, House of the Dead, Shenmue ... Classics forever remembered. Not another boring great performance by Troy Baker^^
I don't mind it having Shenmue1&2 quality dubs, but that voice acting in the kickstarter video is atrocious.
Theonik
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It feels like watching bad documentary dubs over here in the 90s.
Theonik
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Your face is way uncool.
openrob
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Lol
Shenmue 3 opens....
The music fades out as the title screen fades to black...
"HOWS IT HANGING BRO!"
Theonik
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They should do the recap videos for Shenmue III by having Goro narrate the story so far.
Real talk, if there's an angel investor he'd better not donate to the Kickstarter where they would take 10% of his donation.
that would be fucking incredible
SniperHunter
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it seems to have stalled...reached 2 million in 8 hours but that's when the party stopped.
This is typical of every Kickstarter
Theonik
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But my stretchgoals!
It is looking pretty incredible in my head.
Get all your friends to back it.
So how many of you missed out on the secrets in Shenmue II? From what I remember they were very well hidden and I needed to go on gamefaqs.com to figure out how to unlock them.
First there was the fight with Eilleen, which had some of my favorite music from the whole series. So bad ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVFdVtdCB4k
Then there was the fight with Izumi from the Tomato convenience store set to the ridiculous store theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV4hJGKC_C0
And of course the Duck Racing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW2rZfSEZHU
I completely missed all of these my first time though.
First there was the fight with Eilleen, which had some of my favorite music from the whole series. So bad ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVFdVtdCB4k
Then there was the fight with Izumi from the Tomato convenience store set to the ridiculous store theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV4hJGKC_C0
And of course the Duck Racing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW2rZfSEZHU
I completely missed all of these my first time though.
I was testing my streaming setup on a save I'm going to delete for a fresh playthrough of the series and ended up with a winning can that resulted in:
Almost makes me want to scrap my plan to delete the save since I've only ended up with that once before in all the times I've played.
Almost makes me want to scrap my plan to delete the save since I've only ended up with that once before in all the times I've played.
It is temporary, yes.
Theonik
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It's temporary and it's already been revised. Yu Suzuki wasn't fond of it either.
SegaManAU
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So they are now running a poll and asking questions on how much you'd donate for extra tiers ect.
Really hoping something good comes from this. I'd definitely pledge again for a watch or phoenix mirror replicas.
I think the final amount will be around 5-6 million. Hopefully with the extra tiers we can get it even higher!
Really hoping something good comes from this. I'd definitely pledge again for a watch or phoenix mirror replicas.
I think the final amount will be around 5-6 million. Hopefully with the extra tiers we can get it even higher!
Acquiescence
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Pretty slow going right now huh. In all honesty, I just want to fast forward to the last two days of the Kickstarter and see how the inevitable surge of pledges pans out.
I love that guy. His awful, comically over-egged voice-acting just made him all the more endearing. "YOOOO BROOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
Shenmue III, starring Leonardo Dicaprio.
I love that guy. His awful, comically over-egged voice-acting just made him all the more endearing. "YOOOO BROOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
Yes hopefully we get something closer to this
Shenmue III, starring Leonardo Dicaprio.
I'm getting a little worried for the campaign. Bloodstained never went as low as Shenmue did yesterday. The fangamer group did an awesome job to keep people interested in the kickstarter with all the castle stretch goals and achievements. The Shenmue stuff seems boring in comparison and it just keeps losing steam. Something drastic needs to happen for it to reach 10 million.
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