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What the hell are you talking about? What's lucky is how you people were able to start without any effort. I'm not that fortunate and that's why I attempt to ask for help every once in a while but no one seems to understand. Like, everyone's skipping steps when they give me advice but those are the parts where I'm struggling the most. I need the very beginning and no one will give me that or even point me in the right direction. I understand that relationships take work - but I can't even get that far. Do you understand what I'm saying? How am I supposed to do anything if I don't know how to do anything?


I'd love to read where I wrote something to that effect - would you care to share the link?
Oh you mean like start by talking to random strangers and building confidence, that kind of advice? You need to work on yourself first and foremost, build confidence, figure out how to talk to people, and then start going on dates. It's not to say that you can't skip a few steps and build confidence by going on dates, but to each his own.
Here, get this book and follow the steps http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061911690/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 
I'm pretty certain that people have told grape to start small, by talking and having conversations with others, not necessarily women, just people. To make an effort to talk to the cashier at the store, or the person at the retail, or whoever.

And people have told him to work on himself and his issues first.

Those two pieces of advice must have been given to you a year ago, grape. If I wasn't on my phone, I would go digging them up.
 
The cycle with grap3fruitman goes like this:

-Comes into the thread every few months lamenting about how he goes to work and the gym but has no social life or another new issue
-Compares himself to other people/co-workers about how they have female friends/girlfriends
-Asks for advice in the thread
-Calls people out/questions them when they criticize him and offer him advice/constructive criticism
-People tell him to see a therapist for his issues
-People tell him that he's a handsome dude (he really is but he doesn't think he is)
-Disappears from the thread when people get frustrated with him refusing to take any advice or overthink about something
-Rinse and repeat

I don't have specific examples of his posts myself since I'm writing this from my phone but stn has extended him an olive branch on numerous occasions including overhauling his OKC profile so that he's gotten tons of messages from women. But instead of replying, he recoiled and didn't know how to proceed .

EDIT: Some examples of his post history in this thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147613082&postcount=1542
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166000619&postcount=4461
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166116676&postcount=4485

Questioning advice people give him:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166967784&postcount=4664
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147613082&postcount=1542
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147614867&postcount=1546
 
After the girl getting cold feet about a relationship & us admitting we are both fine with just being friends that go out for drinks or whatever from time to time, her & I ended up sleeping together last week. Was a rather interesting time then ended with her telling me that she won't be able to say no to me when it comes to doing anything in the bedroom realm. Will have to play it cool so it stays just a FWB situation for the time being.
 
What the hell are you talking about? What's lucky is how you people were able to start without any effort. I'm not that fortunate and that's why I attempt to ask for help every once in a while but no one seems to understand. Like, everyone's skipping steps when they give me advice but those are the parts where I'm struggling the most. I need the very beginning and no one will give me that or even point me in the right direction. I understand that relationships take work - but I can't even get that far. Do you understand what I'm saying? How am I supposed to do anything if I don't know how to do that?

People have given you that advice time and time again. Like it has been said many times you're not ready to be dating. You need to start from the beginning and just get comfortable talking to people. Work up to making friends and go from there. You need to see a therapist and not just give up on it. You have some issues you need to work out before you'll be able to have a relationship.

That's just the thing, this isn't the thread for you. This is a thread for some random people to give out their advice and anecdotes on dating. We're not qualified to solve your problems and they run far deeper than dating.

In general though I'd say in your current state of mind you're just not a nice guy, in fact you're kind of an asshole. You keep coming back here and not only do you insult people and their advice but you basically blame them (in fact have outright blamed them) for your problems. You belittle peoples achievements by calling it luck and acting like everyone else has been gifted their life on a platter. This whole quest for a GF is just you hoping that someone will come into our life and suddenly fix all your problems.

You don't accept responsibility for your own life, you're desperate and you're angry. That's on top of your social anxiety or whatever else you have going on. You hate yourself and have no confidence and yet expect others to like you.

You're problem isn't the bad hand you've been dealt, you're way above average in terms of looks and so far as I can tell pretty intelligent. You have some issues that need to be sorted and it's not easy, no one thinks it is. Coming to this thread and whining that the world is against you will get you nowhere.
 

You could've just said "look at the first two pages of this thread."

I wasn't too dissimilar from where he was. I suffered from depression big time, with an extra helping of emotional abuse and a lack of self confidence. What happened was I found motivation to change. Ate better, lost a ton of weight, realized I'm worth a shit. Went on my first date ever at 29.

There's no magic bullet...you just need to find something that you want more than whatever you have that's kept you where you are.
 
Speaking of dating anecdotes, I had something super strange happen to me this weekend.

I worked out, came home and cleaned up the house. Was exhausted - ate an edible to relax and celebrate the weekend being over, showered, and then passed out. Wake up to text from girl that wants to come over. I am still super baked, girl comes over to hook up and then I just go back to sleep and she leaves.

Shit has never happened to me ever. If you had asked me like 1 week ago I'd of told you that you're crazy. I knew the girl, but I had told her earlier that I wasn't interested in dating just physical stuff (just didn't find her super interesting).

Dating can definitely be a rollercoaster. I've been on a low for a long time and it's been picking up a lot the past weeks.
 
I have a question. How do you get better at casual conversation? What things can you do to get the conversation to flow a lot smoother? What can you do to make the conversation continue when you don't know what else to say?
 
I have a question. How do you get better at casual conversation? What things can you do to get the conversation to flow a lot smoother? What can you do to make the conversation continue when you don't know what else to say?
Ask questions about the other person that I assume you're generally interested in, if not; fake interest

People love to talk about themselves

I usually find it easier to continue a conversation when I have more to work with. More questions to ask etc. Find things to talk about that remind you of the current conversation as it flows, naturally
 
I have a question. How do you get better at casual conversation? What things can you do to get the conversation to flow a lot smoother? What can you do to make the conversation continue when you don't know what else to say?

Ask questions. Actually listen to the other person and you'll likely find something to ask about or may find it relatable to an interest of your own. Stay up to date with general worldly events - be it pop culture, music, or whatever.

In the off-chance you are interacting with a person who gives you limited or no material to work with, then you need to start the conversations - like the weather or something general - and go from there.

I normally find people who can't hold a conversation or have extremely limited interests to be boring.

Most women feel comfortable talking with me and open up very quickly.
 
I've noticed people like me a lot more once they get to know me better. I know you that sounds obvious but I've been known to give awful and first impressions, but once people get to know how I am and I open up a bit, they seem to like me more. A manager at work didn't like me at all when I first met her but now she's super friendly with me, picks on me, jokes around, etc. It felt really good. I guess maybe I need to work on my first impression. Maybe that's why I can't seem to be able to date.
 
After the girl getting cold feet about a relationship & us admitting we are both fine with just being friends that go out for drinks or whatever from time to time, her & I ended up sleeping together last week. Was a rather interesting time then ended with her telling me that she won't be able to say no to me when it comes to doing anything in the bedroom realm. Will have to play it cool so it stays just a FWB situation for the time being.

Congrats on the sex :3

Thanks for the input. Another question I have is how can you make yourself appear approachable?

You mean at a bar or something? Look happy (smile! but not like a Joker smile, a normal smile), and overall try to relax. If you look tensed up and nervous, it might be harder for people to talk to you.
 
What the hell are you talking about? What's lucky is how you people were able to start without any effort. I'm not that fortunate and that's why I attempt to ask for help every once in a while but no one seems to understand. Like, everyone's skipping steps when they give me advice but those are the parts where I'm struggling the most. I need the very beginning and no one will give me that or even point me in the right direction. I understand that relationships take work - but I can't even get that far. Do you understand what I'm saying? How am I supposed to do anything if I don't know how to do anything?


I'd love to read where I wrote something to that effect - would you care to share the link?

I'm sick of your shit man, please stay the hell away from here and get some help for yourself. We know you by now you know? You can't come in here with your martyr complex and think we're going to take you seriously.

You're an asshole. Learn to interact with people on a basic level before complaining about dating.
 
Well, for starters, they work together, so if something gets too heated he could run the risk of losing his job. I mean, doesn't seem likely, but there is that risk.

Also, with the way she's acting, she wants him to get mad and upset, and confronting her about it will be giving her the satisfaction that yes, her actions are bothering him. And if they're at work, he can't really just fly off the handle and start cursing and stuff either. Why let her have that when he can be the better person in this situation? Even the co-workers think she's being petty and bitchy, so it's not like he has to prove anything.
Yeah. Im not going to play her game. When my coworker told her she shouldnt be bringing a guy there when im working her response was "i cant help that he likes coffee"... Before she was trying to avoid having me stop talking with her and trying to stay friends. I cut her off cuz i was only unhappy and now shes closing the space ive been forced to create.

It is just unbelievable to me that i once thought highly of this person and even thought i loved her. Then to just turn around and become this terrible little girl. Ive lost all respect for her.

I got my shorts back finally lol. No more dependence on her. No reason to text her. No reason to acknowledge her existence. Ghosting her shitshow


What I'm having a hard time with now is wanting her to stay away from me.
 
Congrats on the sex :3



You mean at a bar or something? Look happy (smile! but not like a Joker smile, a normal smile), and overall try to relax. If you look tensed up and nervous, it might be harder for people to talk to you.

What about just being approachable in general?
 
Honestly, I don't really know what tell you beyond the body language advice. It works for any social situation, I just used the bar as an example of being around people that someone might feel awkward about.

Well what do you think makes other people look approachable? It sort of depends on the situation. But I'd say mainly think about your body language. Also make sure you don't have headphones on, or look too engrossed in whatever you are doing.

So it seems having open and confident looking body language is the way.
 
Chatting with a girl at a bar last night, she complemented me on my Charmander Shepard shirt:
shirt_snafu_charmandershepard_LRG.jpg

The alcohol did nothing to help me carry on a conversation, so there were overly long gaps of silence. Some guy sat next to her and started chatting her up, I figured I'd missed this opportunity, but before she left she got up and gave me a hug. I should have gotten her number right then, but didn't. She did say she'd be there tonight though, so hopefully I'll get another chance.
 
Chatting with a girl at a bar last night, she complemented me on my Charmander Shepard shirt:


The alcohol did nothing to help me carry on a conversation, so there were overly long gaps of silence. Some guy sat next to her and started chatting her up, I figured I'd missed this opportunity, but before she left she got up and gave me a hug. I should have gotten her number right then, but didn't. She did say she'd be there tonight though, so hopefully I'll get another chance.

Dude…do it
 
Chatting with a girl at a bar last night, she complemented me on my Charmander Shepard shirt:


The alcohol did nothing to help me carry on a conversation, so there were overly long gaps of silence. Some guy sat next to her and started chatting her up, I figured I'd missed this opportunity, but before she left she got up and gave me a hug. I should have gotten her number right then, but didn't. She did say she'd be there tonight though, so hopefully I'll get another chance.

Just do it, son. You got this

If you aren't sure what to talk about, try asking about her next time. Don't worry too much.
 
I had honestly no idea how my whole divorce situation fucked with my mind. I thought I was doing fine, but only after a couple of dates and starting to go to the gym again I realized how much I let myself go. Feels good man.
 
Dude…do it
Oh I will.

Just do it, son. You got this

If you aren't sure what to talk about, try asking about her next time. Don't worry too much.
I can talk about nothing, I'm like an episode of Seinfeld. The issue is just that I have a quiet nature, which alcohol greatly amplifies. So when I start drinking I stop talking, it's something people I know have remarked on.
 
Oh I will.


I can talk about nothing, I'm like an episode of Seinfeld. The issue is just that I have a quiet nature, which alcohol greatly amplifies. So when I start drinking I stop talking, it's something people I know have remarked on.

That's kind of unusual, but if its true I'd take it slow on the drinks, she's obviously interested
 
I can talk about nothing, I'm like an episode of Seinfeld. The issue is just that I have a quiet nature, which alcohol greatly amplifies. So when I start drinking I stop talking, it's something people I know have remarked on.

That is the opposite of how people normally are, but all the reason to take it super slow with the drinking then! Honestly I prefer to not drink much at all, 1 drink is good for me.
 
You're an asshole. Learn to interact with people on a basic level before complaining about dating.
I'm just as frustrated with the thread as you must all be with me. The bolded is what I've wanted to know how to do - no one will tell me anything than to ask people for directions. I can do that. I'm sorry for wanting to interact with other human beings. I think you people are being purposely obtuse because you enjoy watching me suffer with this over the years. I'm sure you're all going to suggest that I'm just looking for pity. Just ban me instead. I do try and stay out of the thread because it never goes well when I reach out...
 
What? I guarantee you, that nobody here likes to read about your problems and/or any failures you might have.

If you want to engage people at a basic level:

1) Greet people you come across: I say good morning/afternoon/evening to anyone I interact with during my day. The cashier, bus driver, door man, etc.

2) Engage them: If given the time, make small talk. Ask them how they are doing, or how their day is going.

3) Be courteous: Say thank you, hold doors, give up your seat, etc. This cost you next to nothing to do.

4) Be positive: This, I think more than anything, is something you need to work on. You quoted Worm, bolded a part of his post, and responded to it. That is fine and dandy. But, instead of leaving it there, you then go into a negative rant. Acting like the world is out to get you. If this is how you act in real life, trust me, people pick up on it. And people wouldn't want to interact with you.
 
I'm just as frustrated with the thread as you must all be with me. The bolded is what I've wanted to know how to do - no one will tell me anything than to ask people for directions. I can do that. I'm sorry for wanting to interact with other human beings. I think you people are being purposely obtuse because you enjoy watching me suffer with this over the years. I'm sure you're all going to suggest that I'm just looking for pity. Just ban me instead. I do try and stay out of the thread because it never goes well when I reach out...

Someone on this page literally linked you a book that has a step by step guide to help you out, but you've somehow ignored that. It can't be broken down more than that. And also, people have given you very, very simple advice on multiple occasions, but you're really just cherry-picking what you don't like and blowing it out of proportion.

It doesn't go well when you ask for advice because you refuse to listen and argue with everyone when you do. Hell, you took one paragraph out of my last ranting post and completely ignored the rest. It's pretty telling of your overall attitude. You don't want help, you just want to bitch.
 
I'm just as frustrated with the thread as you must all be with me. The bolded is what I've wanted to know how to do - no one will tell me anything than to ask people for directions. I can do that. I'm sorry for wanting to interact with other human beings. I think you people are being purposely obtuse because you enjoy watching me suffer with this over the years. I'm sure you're all going to suggest that I'm just looking for pity. Just ban me instead. I do try and stay out of the thread because it never goes well when I reach out...
Quit playing a victim and man the fuck up. We aren't here to hurt you. You just aren't lsitening to any of the advice here. I looked at the first few pages and it was the same thing, you haven't done anything to better yourself.

If you want to Learn to interact with people on a basic level then fucking go out and do it. It isn't so black and white, we can't just give you a 1 2 step. Just TRY TO GO TALK WITH PEOPLE. ANYWHERE. Cashiers, baristas, people on the street. Ask for the time. As for directions to some shop. Read a book in a cafe and ask other people what they're reading. Just do something other than feel SORRY for yourself on some message board.

I'm past the point of feeling sorry for myself because of a recent break-up. I'm in a situation where I'm disgusted by my ex, while you're disgusted with "everyone". It will get better if you try and do something about it. Me posting here is helping because I'm receiving advice and acknowledgement about how shitty my situation is. But I'm not complaining and telling people they're wrong for telling me to cut her off and ignore her and not play her stupid game. You need to understand that our advice is for you to put into effect. You can't just sit around with us telling you things to do and answer all your roundabout questions. You're going in circles.
 
Acting like the world is out to get you. If this is how you act in real life, trust me, people pick up on it. And people wouldn't want to interact with you.
This. Grape, there's a reason why people here tell you do things such as greeting random people. Its a way to work up the courage to proceed to the next step. Here's an example of meeting people using the above suggestion.

1. Ask 100 random people on the street for the time and/or weather. Proceed to step 2.
2. Make small talk with people in the service industry (ex. ask a worker how he or she is doing while you wait for your coffee).
*Are you comfortable with #1 and 2? Good. Proceed to 3!*
3. Use these skills to talk to people where ever you go (gym, club, mall, etc...)

Its not rocket science, man. You just want to jump hoops without having the basics down first. The reason people tell you not to seek a relationship right now is because you lack the foundation for it. It would just open up new problems.

I suggested many times that you make a GAF meetup thread for your area. Where are you with that? What's stopping you?

If you end up replying to this post, I only care about the above question. Don't ignore it.

Are you still online dating on OKC? If yes, feel free to shoot me your login info again. I'd be happy to scan your convos and tell you what exactly you did right and wrong. Or help you again with your profile. Normally I'd even do the talking for you but I don't think that would contribute to your personal growth.
 
I'm just as frustrated with the thread as you must all be with me. The bolded is what I've wanted to know how to do - no one will tell me anything than to ask people for directions. I can do that. I'm sorry for wanting to interact with other human beings. I think you people are being purposely obtuse because you enjoy watching me suffer with this over the years. I'm sure you're all going to suggest that I'm just looking for pity. Just ban me instead. I do try and stay out of the thread because it never goes well when I reach out...

Though it seems based on previous posts I may be wasting my time...here's two very basic things to get you started, especially if your problems are anxiety based:

The book Messages:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1572245921/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Decently short book. Explains communication and blocks in communication nicely. I'm only a couple chapters in and it has seriously helped me. Even chapter one helped me greatly. There are practices you are supposed to do at the end of each lesson, and I highly recommend you do them. Practice and more practice is what's going to make communicating with people come naturally.


Overcoming Social Anxiety:
https://socialanxietyinstitute.org/social-anxiety-treatment/online-therapy/overcoming-social-anxiety

A series of audio(and now apparently video) lessons you are supposed to do on a weekly basis. It focuses on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It's good for general anxiety too. The psychologist who created this series used to have social anxiety himself, so the lessons definitely come from a place of understanding. If you don't have the money for the series, you can uh, find a way to find the series and workbook through other means *cough*. I recommend you give money if you can afford it, though. It's cheaper than a therapist.

Hopefully this post helps someone.
 
1) Greet people you come across: I say good morning/afternoon/evening to anyone I interact with during my day. The cashier, bus driver, door man, etc.
Indeed, go with the basics. Just smile at everyone whose eyes meet yours. Basic greetings (with no follow-up required) like the quoted suggestion is a good start. Once you get comfortable with that, you can then go for more directed one-liners. "Nice dog!" to someone walking one. Or, "it's so humid" in exasperation on a hot day. Also, try not sounding like an emotionless robot when saying things.
 
I'm just as frustrated with the thread as you must all be with me. The bolded is what I've wanted to know how to do - no one will tell me anything than to ask people for directions. I can do that. I'm sorry for wanting to interact with other human beings. I think you people are being purposely obtuse because you enjoy watching me suffer with this over the years. I'm sure you're all going to suggest that I'm just looking for pity. Just ban me instead. I do try and stay out of the thread because it never goes well when I reach out...
Dude, stopping being a goddamn asshole when you ask for help. Stop pretending to be done martyr and screw you that everyone just enjoyed seeing you suffer. All the years of your bullshit people have put up with and yet again you resort to insulting others. You want to know how to interact? Stop being an asshole to everyone when they go out of their way to help you when they have no obligation to. You can't be more condescending when you talk to people.
 
I bombed pretty badly with my misadventures in OKCupid. Almost a hundred messages, and I get one reply from someone who trolls people looking for a date for kicks, and I got an unsolicited response from someone who didn't click with me.

I'm giving up on online dating, anyone know a good matchmaking service?
 
My advice to Grape is if you like sports try and join a rec or pick up league that's pretty casual. Teamates form bonds and tend to be more social. If your quiet on a team as long as you stick to the gameplan, show up and listen you will be fine. A sport forces you to interact with a team on the most fundamental level. That would be better than walking up to people with no aim imo.

Take it or leave it. I love team sports just for the social interaction.
 
Chatting with a girl at a bar last night, she complemented me on my Charmander Shepard shirt:


The alcohol did nothing to help me carry on a conversation, so there were overly long gaps of silence. Some guy sat next to her and started chatting her up, I figured I'd missed this opportunity, but before she left she got up and gave me a hug. I should have gotten her number right then, but didn't. She did say she'd be there tonight though, so hopefully I'll get another chance.

If you see her again, say "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite bar in the city."

Don't say this.
 
I'm just as frustrated with the thread as you must all be with me. The bolded is what I've wanted to know how to do - no one will tell me anything than to ask people for directions. I can do that. I'm sorry for wanting to interact with other human beings. I think you people are being purposely obtuse because you enjoy watching me suffer with this over the years. I'm sure you're all going to suggest that I'm just looking for pity. Just ban me instead. I do try and stay out of the thread because it never goes well when I reach out...
People see through you. They see through you here and in real life. You've always come off as entitled, weak, argumentative, and like you're always throwing a pity party for yourself, and everyone has constantly called you out on that, and you've consistently responded with the same deflections, excuses, finger pointing, and negative attitude that you've always been called on.

You don't grow, and it's your own fault. You think everyone else got lucky, and you clearly resent the world for it. You're afraid of talking to people in real life, but you're not afraid to blame everyone when it comes to where you are in life. Why would anyone want to know you when you're like this?

You're not going to trick anyone into liking you. You're going to be liked when you're a likable person. I don't believe you want to be a likable person, or you would have shown a little bit of growth in all of these years of dating advice. (I saw Hannibal Buress live, and he compared his success to Kevin Hart's by saying "he just clearly wants it more than me." He was self-aware of where he was in life and why he's where he's at. You show none of this awareness of yourself or the effort of the people around you.) You don't actually want it, so you don't work for it like everyone else has worked for it, and then you just complain about the lack of results you get from your lack of work. Good luck with that.
 
I had honestly no idea how my whole divorce situation fucked with my mind. I thought I was doing fine, but only after a couple of dates and starting to go to the gym again I realized how much I let myself go. Feels good man.

This. So much this. Divorce was both the toughest time in my life and the best thing to ever happen to me. Perspective is a beautiful thing.
 
People see through you. They see through you here and in real life. You've always come off as entitled, weak, argumentative, and like you're always throwing a pity party for yourself, and everyone has constantly called you out on that, and you've consistently responded with the same deflections, excuses, finger pointing, and negative attitude that you've always been called on.

You don't grow, and it's your own fault. You think everyone else got lucky, and you clearly resent the world for it. You're afraid of talking to people in real life, but you're not afraid to blame everyone when it comes to where you are in life. Why would anyone want to know you when you're like this?

You're not going to trick anyone into liking you. You're going to be liked when you're a likable person. I don't believe you want to be a likable person, or you would have shown a little bit of growth in all of these years of dating advice. (I saw Hannibal Buress live, and he compared his success to Kevin Hart's by saying "he just clearly wants it more than me." He was self-aware of where he was in life and why he's where he's at. You show none of this awareness of yourself or the effort of the people around you.) You don't actually want it, so you don't work for it like everyone else has worked for it, and then you just complain about the lack of results you get from your lack of work. Good luck with that.
I think the biggest slap in the face is how he always says we did it without effort when you can see all the struggles, myself included, have gone through over the years. It wasn't easy and it sure as shit took effort, just like everything I accomplished in life and yet he just loves to hand wave it away like I didn't even have to think about it. He needs to fix his poisonous mindset. You grow by trying to learn from others, not by trying to knock them down. People want to learn from someone else when they're impressed, not tell others how easy they have it. It's just the complete opposite mindset and he has to fix that first and foremost.
 
I think the biggest slap in the face is how he always says we did it without effort when you can see all the struggles, myself included, have gone through over the years. It wasn't easy and it sure as shit took effort, just like everything I accomplished in life and yet he just loves to hand wave it away like I didn't even have to think about it. He needs to fix his poisonous mindset. You grow by trying to learn from others, not by trying to knock them down. People want to learn from someone else when they're impressed, not tell others how easy they have it. It's just the complete opposite mindset and he has to fix that first and foremost.
Yep, he's consistently insulting to everyone else's effort. Like we all got lucky or had coincidence shine upon us, and he wants it himself. It seems like he can't mentally picture people putting hard work into dating and then that hard work paying off, and he now may never get it because of his own self-limiting behavior. It's the same lack of self-awareness and respect for others that causes people to fail in all sorts of things.
 
Effort and hardships indeed. But let's say it was all luck, and we're all lucky. Let's spread the luck around. Let's say a cute girl notices you, likes what she sees, maybe she's even a GAFer, and approaches you. An ideal scenario on a silver platter. Then what?
 
I bombed pretty badly with my misadventures in OKCupid. Almost a hundred messages, and I get one reply from someone who trolls people looking for a date for kicks, and I got an unsolicited response from someone who didn't click with me.

I'm giving up on online dating, anyone know a good matchmaking service?
Tinder?
Effort and hardships indeed. But let's say it was all luck, and we're all lucky. Let's spread the luck around. Let's say a cute girl notices you, likes what she sees, maybe she's even a GAFer, and approaches you. An ideal scenario on a silver platter. Then what?
Ask her what she thinks of EviLore.
 
He probably needs to get off the internet, for starters.

Stop using NeoGAF as a shoulder to cry on, as means to get attention, as an outlet for your frustration and as a target to blame when things don't turn out the way everyone's advice suggests they will. After years of treading water, maybe it's time to be banned for your own good, so that there's no one to fling excuses at, just a pit of loneliness and means to either shape yourself into a ladder, or to sit there unchanged, with no one to blame but yourself. The tools are in piles around you. Self-improvement is available from a myriad of angles. The fattest and ugliest and dumbest people around you have found companionship. The world isn't to blame, and you haven't been dealt a shit hand, you just never even started playing yours.

You're not a bad person, and you haven't broken the rules of the site, so don't take this personally, or do very much take it personally, since everyone's been following your story arc or lack thereof, with empathy and frustration.

Take a hundred deep breaths. Think about who you want to be, then start on the path to being that person. Detach your self-worth from dating or relationships or what others think of you, and just work towards bettering yourself and achieving your goals. Be a worthwhile person. Then conquer your fears and inadequacies when it comes to relationships.

We'll see you in a year.
 
Alright, who performed the ritual and summoned the man himself? I'm looking at AcridMeat.

Got a date tonight with a kinky lady I met online yesterday. She doesn't want to jump right into it and wants to have a normal get to know each other date which I totally appreciate. I don't know how some people do it, but I can't just get it on like donkey kong with strangers. Doesn't feel right.
 
If you see her again, say "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite bar in the city."

Don't say this.
Well, I'd have to say "I'm Charmander Shepard, Char Char!" I certainly won't be doing that.
 
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