For the 20th time in this thread, the Fall 2015 date is for the non-Windows versions and has been there for ages.
Warner Brothers suspends [new] purchases for PC version of Batman Arkham Knight
- Thread starter Mad Season
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For the 20th time in this thread, the Fall 2015 date is for the non-Windows versions and has been there for ages.
Maybe they charge extra cut when you re-release the product?
OnionPowder
Member
I wish they could fit that in the title. Maybe update the OP since everybody is so concerned.
Yes. Iron Galaxy did it.
Not really, its the publisher that's like "release it and then fix it" in the first place.
digitaldevmike
Member
lol Injustice: Frauds among us
texhnolyze
Banned
I think it's quite obvious, except if the majority of PC gamers are running on SteamOS, Linux, or Mac.
Perfect OT title if there ever was one.
schaft0620
Member
You are going to see more AAA games not release on PC now or just delay.
RukusProvider
Banned
I'm sure they'll refund those who bought it already. Otherwise, this is still open to an easy class action suit which is the main reason it's being shut down.
So it is better to have a non functioning product? What are you trying to get at here? Budgets are so large now they need all the sales they can get.
So fucking what? That's totally fine.
Either treat us with equal respect or just don't bother at all.
You mean PC gamers might not actually get the latest broken-ass Assassin's Creed title? Oh boo hoo - whatever will we do?!?
Okay? If this means we get a few less shitty AAA ports, then really, nothing has been lost. Companies that continue to put work into all versions of a (good) game will do well on PC.
Holy shit. This was handled so poorly. How could they even release it broken like that? Did no one actually QA that port? Did they think nobody would notice? Lol.
They should also refund everyone who bought it on PC, let them decide if they want to purchase it again once they re-release it.
They should also refund everyone who bought it on PC, let them decide if they want to purchase it again once they re-release it.
Delaying the PC release isn't that uncommon anyway. Good publishers know when to release a product.
Obliterator
Member
I highly highly highly doubt you'll see any more not releasing because of this.
PC ports generate tens of millions of dollars and have incredibly long tail end consistent sales. Games that have been out for years are selling over 100k just during Steam Sales.
What this will do, is ensure devs can't fuck around. PC ports have to be legit.
Phanatic8390
Member
Whoa, this is something new.
Now I don't know wether to get a refund or ride it out. Suppose I should see what GMGs response to this is.
Now I don't know wether to get a refund or ride it out. Suppose I should see what GMGs response to this is.
So you want to pay for non-working products now? Jesus
ClaptoVaughn
Member
It's amazing what happens when you give people options.
Charge for GFWL? Get lost, Microsoft.
We can refund games now? Take your shit back, Warner Bros.
What started as one of the worst moments in recent PC gaming has actually revealed what may be another one of its...revolutions. For the longest time, the possibility of refunding had pretty much been out of reach for PC gamers.
But with digital downloads and the biggest distributor of digital games now allowing refunds, this is a game changer.
I honestly think this will be a moment that will be referenced for years to come. It's a landmark case, really.
Charge for GFWL? Get lost, Microsoft.
We can refund games now? Take your shit back, Warner Bros.
What started as one of the worst moments in recent PC gaming has actually revealed what may be another one of its...revolutions. For the longest time, the possibility of refunding had pretty much been out of reach for PC gamers.
But with digital downloads and the biggest distributor of digital games now allowing refunds, this is a game changer.
I honestly think this will be a moment that will be referenced for years to come. It's a landmark case, really.
Or they could take the PC platform a bit more seriously? They managed to get the game working well on two other platforms (underpowered compared to the average PC at that) so there's little excuse for it not working as well on PC, and on day one.
Not sure why people keep spouting that pc games might get delayed or outright cancelled now by other devs. It boggles my mind that you would rather have a buggy ass and lazy port of a AAA game instead of calling developers out on this. In my mind, if a publisher does not port a game to the pc, then they just will not ever get my money again.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
So what's actually wrong with this game? I looked up this guy's review, but all I heard was a bunch of technical terms and not about anything about how the actual game plays like if it's slow or filled with glitches.
What a bunch of entitled fools, amirite? Just take what you can get!
The latter is very possible - and maybe for the best (annoying as it is) if it avoids situations like this.
There's not a chance in hell that AAA publishers cut back on PC support altogether, given how much the market has grown.
SpiceMelange
Member
If only Microsoft could have made the same commitment with Halo MCC
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
This right here is the silver lining. Thanks to valve, pc gamers finally have a voice. Consoles have the certification process, now PCs have a quality assurance system as well.
Good.
Take a page out of Rockstars book, only don't take as long. That game on a $200 PC looks better than Arkham Knight on a $2k PC
The actual game play is fine. It's a batman ass batman game. The performance of the game is just awful. FPS that bounces everywhere, missing textures, horrible performance in the batmobile, missing settings that should be there for a pc port, among a lot of other stuff. The performance of the game is the problem, not the actual gameplay.
PastorOfMuppets
Banned
If I had to guess, this is not due to bad PR. It's because Steam - the platform which it was probably getting ~75% of its sales on was getting hammered with refund requests. I think Green Man Gaming was also offering refunds if the next patch did not clear up issues with the games.
The reason it's unprecedented is because PC gamers aren't stuck with half assed ports if they buy digitally anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if this discourages companies from doing this in the future. GTA IV and Saints Row 2 were two pretty notorious examples of games with shitty PC ports.
The reason it's unprecedented is because PC gamers aren't stuck with half assed ports if they buy digitally anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if this discourages companies from doing this in the future. GTA IV and Saints Row 2 were two pretty notorious examples of games with shitty PC ports.
dinosaur_hunter2
Member
I can't stop laughing at this. LMAO
Obliterator
Member
PC ports are going nowhere. Anyone saying this incredibly off base. PC games sell incredibly well over time and give devs / pubs a consistent stream of revenue for years and years. Much longer than consoles with their huge used / pre owned game market.
For example here the list of Steam games that are at least 1 full year old that sold over 200k units during JUST the 2 week Summer Sale
Witcher 2: 305,000 sales
Payday 2: 279,000 sales
Fallout New Vegas: 253,000 sales
Dishonored: 247,000 sales
Metro Last Light: 241,000 sales
Fallout 3: 228,000 sales
Terraria: 225,000 sales
Metro 2033: 221,000 sales
Borderlands 2: 218,000 sales
Age of Empires 2: 216,000 sales
Skyrim: 211,000 sales
And there are tons more over 100k sales. Tell me in NPD how often you see games selling this number of units this long after release? You don't. During the Steam Summer sale over 33 million games were sold for nearly 200 million dollars in revenue.
That's in 2 WEEKS!!! Insanity. PC games are going nowhere, in fact they are growing and growing and growing.
What this cluster fuck tell Devs and Pubs is the days of releasing shit ports and getting away from it are over. Make a solid port and you'll be rewarded. PC gamers will buy your games and support you for years to come. Screw us, and we will say screw you back.
Apparently they did the port
Permanently A
Junior Member
PC OT title locked in.
Jay Shadow
Member
GMG isn't gonna give out refunds until after stuff will most likely be fixed anyways, so you don't really have a choice but to ride it out.
Get a refund, because there's no guarantee they will fix it right. You can always buy it later.
GMG not having Steam's refund policy- given how AAA PC ports can be botched, it's why I'm no longer going to use them, outside of expansions/DLC that I know will be handled correctly.
The problem is there is so much wrong with the port how could they possibly fix it quickly. This will probably be months of patches.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Even with the refunds, I'm surprised they actually went through with it. Hope they can reach the solutions needed to get the game up to par.
#1. I don't give WB any props for making this move. The props needs to be given to Steam for having user reviews and the newly released refund system in place. Anyone who has been PC gaming for a long time will tell you in the past if we got a terrible port we generally just had to live with it because there was no way to hurt the publisher where it counts, the bank account. I am 99% sure this never would have happened under the old system without refounds.
#2. I wonder if I should I just keep the 50+ GB of data on my HDD until this is fixed or if they will require the download to be redone once this is hopefully fixed?
#2. I wonder if I should I just keep the 50+ GB of data on my HDD until this is fixed or if they will require the download to be redone once this is hopefully fixed?
Beerman462
Member
jediyoshi
Member
All the data is pretty unpacked as is, and Steam updates usually just use delta patching. Even a 'massive' update probably won't be anywhere near the size of the game. Does sound like it might be a bug on your end though, Steam is only reporting 38~gb here.
Well an update on this since I already had the PS4 LE coming and saw the PC issues I never opened steam to unpack it yesterday, and now that it's not available for purchase Steam can't unencrypt it. LOL. I guess I might as well just delete the data.
joecanada
Member
Yup trying their luck, see if they can get away with it. No way you couldn't know how bad this was.
They deserve very little credit for this, it's just necessary to save their asses
I can't imagine this port having as many problems as that game still has.
SuperEpicGuy
Banned
I think that it's the first time this happened from what I remember. Wasn't planning on touching it till it's fixed anyway, so no worries for me, I got witcher 3.
CadetMahoney
Member
This game is now a shoe in for Hottest Mess in the Giant Bomb 2015 GOTY awards
At least it will win something
lol
