I just started over on PS4 moving from xbone. Doing patrolls at low levels is easy. You just avoid or run passed the high level mobs.
Bungie apologizes for Taken King controversy, CE items to be sold separate
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PooBone
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No, it's the fact that it's repetitive and boring. Like I said. Doesn't mean there aren't tons of people out there playing nothing else. But being told "masses of people like it" certainly isn't going to change my mind about something. The masses are usually idiots when it comes to art/entertainment.
The fact that they apologize and then ask for the same price of one of their pieces of DLC for some cosmetic stuff really is something.
Also, the 40 dollar expansion doesn't come with the previous DLC right? So anyone with just the base game can't jump into the expansion without having to buy the DLC.
Destiny has its problemas as a game but the pricing structure they have really is something.
Also, the 40 dollar expansion doesn't come with the previous DLC right? So anyone with just the base game can't jump into the expansion without having to buy the DLC.
Destiny has its problemas as a game but the pricing structure they have really is something.
Like i said before I dont care what Bungie/Activision say or do in their PR as long as I enjoy the game, but I have to agree that this $20 tag is just ridiculous and rub off the wrong way after how Luke talked about in his EG interview
Selling the cosmetic items as such a price sound basically as the next step of this conversation, and for me it just wrong. Will I stop playing Destiny? or Delete it (lol) hell no, but I wont give a dime for cosmetic stuff as I always felt this stuff should be free, and the way Bungie is handling this is just sloppy, but this out of touch way of handling things they are showing now is basically the same from the Bungie I knew from Halo 3 to Halo Reach, difference know is they are charging you for it.
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Ohh wow, Im called an idiot for liking something that you dont like!
Selling the cosmetic items as such a price sound basically as the next step of this conversation, and for me it just wrong. Will I stop playing Destiny? or Delete it (lol) hell no, but I wont give a dime for cosmetic stuff as I always felt this stuff should be free, and the way Bungie is handling this is just sloppy, but this out of touch way of handling things they are showing now is basically the same from the Bungie I knew from Halo 3 to Halo Reach, difference know is they are charging you for it.
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Ohh wow, Im called an idiot for liking something that you dont like!
Samurai G0SU
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What lore? Fells very hollow to me. Or are you speaking about reading a bunch of cards to understand little pieces? dont you have to read them on the app or on bungie's website? lol...
I'm glad you enjoy this game, but we all know Destiny's story is as good as Peter's VO for the ghost.
PooBone
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Biggest mind-boggling WTF decision in the entire Destiny package, right up until all this DLC pricing got announced.
Mass Effect codec, anyone?
lol jesus christ
GlamFM
Banned
Edgy.
Ah it's the old "everyone is stupid but me" argument. Compelling.
Grinchy
Banned
The problem with not buying the DLC is that the weekly and daily events (the end-game content) are often DLC-only. So one week you may not get any strange coins from the weekly strike because you didn't buy DLC. Or you can't do the nightfall to get new gear because you didn't buy the DLC. Or you can't do the daily story for ascendant materials because you didn't buy the DLC.
Basically, they halt your progress in the game in a way that makes you think you have to buy the DLC. This is the problem with their model from a consumer standpoint. And it's the brilliance of their model from a business standpoint.
Haha you're so smart. Who could ever argue with you.
Lalalandia
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Yes, yes it is entirely beside the point because the whole mess started with a badly fluffed answer on value and $/£ conversion rates i.e.the two things they never addressed when they fed Luke Smith to the crowd.
If they do go 14.99 on the expansion I'd be totally onboard though.
I hope selling those items as a separate package doesn't start leading down the path for further paid microtransactions for this game. Let's be honest, this shit will probably sell gangbusters and once Activision sees that, I wouldn't be surprised if more paid shaders and items start popping up down the road.
shiftplusone
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Is "The Lore" another god damn noun in the game ie. the speaker or the darkness or the hive or the reef or the light or etc etc
I doubt you mean anything story related because that's the worst part of destiny, ios™ companion™ app™ or no
Breakfast at Noon
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Gjallahorn £9.99 on the store now.
Pilgrimzero
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Fucking sucks.
Had a mission to "kill so many guys without dying" Got real close until I turned a corner and got splatted. Happened twice. Gave up the mission cause it was so lame.
Also had a guy blocking the way to a place I needed to go. Tried getting by him several times finally I made it.
So yea, horrible design idea.
blue_phazon
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I don't think they CAN make it cheaper even if they wanted to because then all the new players buying the Digital CE will get shafted (because the extras are valued at $20 for it)
Pilgrimzero
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Copy/Paste areas to. On one story mission Tyrion says "No one has seen this place in a billion years." (Another Guardian goes running by but whatever). Then in a patrol mission the EXACT same place. From the immediate outside of the building to the inside. Only diff was the backend of the library had a door to take me to a new outside area.
blue_phazon
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...the Taken King is the comet expansion
The Taken King IS the Comet Expansion. They just renamed it.
I'd honestly love Kotaku or someone to do some Behind the Scenes interviewing to find out wtf happened to the story, background lore, promised gameplay features/size of the game. I feel like there may have been a lot of shit that went down with the Dev team before this game got released.
I wonder if Destiny 2 will also be just one giant expansion that can be added to the current game for the people that got the first destiny.
BC THE CE IS $80
Lalalandia
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This the Great White Whale of dev post mortems, I'm pretty sure whoever posts it first will be basically DDOSing themselves.
No it is the story but I can see why you might be unsure. I have a real weakness for sci-fi space opera nonsense so I get along with it but it is all but irrelevant to the game given how poorly integrated into the game it is.There are some fun character based short stories and dryer X happened and so Y was inevitable style stuff in the Grimoire but impossible to recommend in it's current format.
Grow up.
Dreams-Visions
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Except that Apple actually has the highest satisfaction rate for every product segment they enter (new watches being the only unknown), provide what is usually regarded as the most polished product in a given segment, enjoy a highly positive brand that only seems to get more positive over time, and never ever lack for content on any platform, ever.
But yea, I mean...Bungie is totes Apple. Overpriced, yo.
It's amusing you're writing about mistakes in communication, you cut off the part of my post that made it clear this is not just to do with poor communication.
This is all about outcome and results. Poor ones.
People should be embarrassed by the hyperbole in this thread. Overpriced cosmetic DLC "makes you sick"? Like physically ill? Really?
- Bungie announced almost-entirely-cosmetic stuff as part of the CE. People lost their shit and stamped their feet because they didn't want to re-buy vanilla+TDB+HOW
- Bungie says "OK, here's the 'stuff' for $20"
- People lose their shit for getting *exactly* what the first set of people asked for
This is a classic case of why companies shouldn't even bother to try to appease internet temper tantrums; they can't win without providing the most extreme solution (literally giving it away). Even if this stuff was $5, this thread would only be 6 pages of moaning instead of 23.
All this said, I think $20 is too much for what they're offering. That's the wonderful thing about subjective value proposition; things are worth whatever people will pay for them. To me, the value isn't there, so I won't buy it. What I won't do is pull out my bullhorn and try to convince other people not to or crap all over something other people want and are willing to pay for. How other adults spend their money shouldn't matter to you unless it's infringing on your rights.
- Bungie announced almost-entirely-cosmetic stuff as part of the CE. People lost their shit and stamped their feet because they didn't want to re-buy vanilla+TDB+HOW
- Bungie says "OK, here's the 'stuff' for $20"
- People lose their shit for getting *exactly* what the first set of people asked for
This is a classic case of why companies shouldn't even bother to try to appease internet temper tantrums; they can't win without providing the most extreme solution (literally giving it away). Even if this stuff was $5, this thread would only be 6 pages of moaning instead of 23.
All this said, I think $20 is too much for what they're offering. That's the wonderful thing about subjective value proposition; things are worth whatever people will pay for them. To me, the value isn't there, so I won't buy it. What I won't do is pull out my bullhorn and try to convince other people not to or crap all over something other people want and are willing to pay for. How other adults spend their money shouldn't matter to you unless it's infringing on your rights.
Dreams-Visions
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I agree about the cosmetic DLC. People need to get a life instead of bitching about that. If $20 feels too expensive for you, don't buy it or buy a code later for cheap from a reseller or a holiday deal or something. It's not DLC that you need to play the game; it's just cosmetic shit. You're very safe to ignore it and your game experience will not be any different.
There is fair objection, however, to the pricing of TTK in the context of past expansion offering quality from season 1, the "walling off" effect DLC has created with regards to playing with friends, and the arguably thin amount of content expected to be included in this expansion. In the context of gaming, $40 is quite a bit of money and the quality and quantity of what's being added via expansion pack should reasonably well match the asking price. When it doesn't...or when price packaging is unreasonably obtuse...well, you get threads like this.
panama chief
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benicillin
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Nope, I can't imagine they would. The exotic emblem you get from Trials doesn't, but that's all I'm going off of.
Man.
I swear some people see the word 'Destiny' in a thread title and then instantaneously drop in to give their nonsensical 2 cents.
I hope that's the case. I don't want to give up my Celestial Nighthawk. I love that helmet. : )
LifEndz
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Exactly. Amazing how so many keep missing this point. Maybe the OP should link to that Kotaku article. That summarized/explained the anger felt by many perfectly imo.
Yeah it's kind of annoying. See it on N4G all the time. I don't understand, if you don't like the game don't play it.
Right, because they can't possibly have legitimate reasons for writing these things.
You don't understand people voicing disappointment?
Digital = no tax, Physical = depends on the state. Here in Nevada it's 7.725 (also depends on county in the state). So Physical game on release is around $64.65.
If we're talking about the stand alone $40 expansion about $44.
oh duh, it's digital. No tax.
I'm curious. What past dlc package from bungie are you using to calculate the price of the items in question?
That's the thing. They aren't even playing it. Half the people posting don't/no longer own the game.
Sure wish I could read up on these reasons. Maybe then I wouldn't feel so jaded?
I understand people voicing disappointment, I don't understand jumping on the hate a company band wagon for the hell of it (which I feel certain companies get more hate then others, just my opinion though). That's what I meant by this. Sorry for the confusion.
Also I have some co-workers who talk shit on Destiny and they have yet to play the game.
backflip10019
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Except that like half of the states in the US pay tax on digital purchases.
Again, I don't agree with the price point, and I support coherent objection to the pricing.
My impression of the collective/average reaction in the Destiny OT (admittedly hardcore players) to the TTK pricing was fairly neutral. People who had drifted in and out of the OTs for months seemed to object more than the people that were still playing a lot.
I'm personally "OK" with the TTK pricing. If you try to break down by "content per dollar", it doesn't offer the same value proposition as the original vanilla game (less of everything except raids, which are one each). The problem is that breaking it down this way isn't comprehensive. When you compare the content in TTK to TDB or HOW, though, it's obviously more significant. New subclasses are a huge deal, more strikes, a proper (hopefully better than TDB's) raid, more exotics. They're also, theoretically, not done announcing what else is in it.
I also know how many hundreds of hours I've spent playing vanilla/TDB/HOW; and it's *easily* the lowest $/hr I've ever spent on a game.
I don't intend to defend the overall pricing structure of the various packages. The Digital CE costing the same as the physical one with all the tangible doo-dads is absurd, and there are definitely things they could have done better. But I think the TTK digital download pricing is reasonable. Not ideal, just not "torches and pitchforks".
Yeah, I love the endless dramatic posts saying "this made me delete Destiny from my PS4".
So you're telling me that even though you clearly enjoy Destiny, since you are still playing 9 months after launch, the announcement of optional cosmetic DLC coming in the fall is the last straw that has caused you to delete the game? Right...