SCOTUS strikes down gay marriage bans, legalizing marriage equality nationwide
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DrROBschiz
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With a double rainbow over the White House apparently!
two Catholics voted for the majority in today's ruling, and one of them wrote the majority opinion, I'd like to point out.
You can criticize their decision but they cannot be wrong. They are the highest court of the land, their interpretation of the constitution is how our country must legally interpret the constitution. That interpretation can change, years from now a different set of judges could find that the constitution says otherwise, and of course the citizens of America can amend the constitution in disagreement with the court, but as of this moment in time the American constitution factually ensures marriage equality among all consenting adults.
At least that's my knowledge on the matter. If I'm wrong please correct me.
SomewhatGroovy
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One is music to my ears. The other is Macklemore
ElectricBlanketFire
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Yes, a majority of them. I grew up thinking it was wrong myself.
I changed my mind around 18 or 19. I'm 32 now.
Thank you?
A gay, interracial couple has been legally wed in Mississippi. Let that sentence sink in for a moment.
Stumpokapow
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It depends what one is claiming. If one is claiming, for example, that something is "unconstitutional" when the court says it is not, or vice versa, then what response is there other than "okay, well, great opinion, but the Supreme Court is the arbiter of what is constitutional so until they change their minds, you're incorrect by definition". Presumably people posting on GAF are not brilliant legal minds working on trial balloons to overturn some precedent by making some novel legal-theoretical claim; rather, they're likely mostly non-lawyers concerned primarily with public policy outcomes, right? Certainly I think the court can make the wrong call sometimes (there are times where I agree with dissents more than rulings), but I'm not going to pretend that the dissent has more legal force or is more binding.
If the argument is principled and normative, then it seems reasonable to disregard the court's interpretation, but it also seems reasonable to disregard the US Constitution more generally. I'm fine with that: money isn't speech, the KKK should be banned, no one should be allowed to own a tank, federalism has no inherent legitimacy, the death penalty is wrong, direct election of senators is unnecessary (hell, the upper chamber is largely unnecessary), all felons current and past should be permitted to vote, etc. etc.
Did you miss the GAF thread that's been around since April? We knew it was going to be the end of June but not the exact date for months now.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1031242&page=1
Not looking forward to tomorrow, but I'll suck it up for a few days.Gordon Shumway
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My wife couldn't stop laughing at that when I said it. Don't think she believed me initially..
The fireworks on the Fourth of July will burn a bit brighter.
Christopher
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Religion is made up
If he (God)felt so strongly about this ruling he would come down and say something
The days of hiding hates behind ancient texts are beyond over
This really was a great start to my day. Glad for those whom will be effected by this. Maybe humanity is not just trash after all.
But #1 in freedom
You have an incredibly narrow view of religion.
But #1 in freedom
You have an incredibly narrow view of religion.
DOWN
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He knows better. People are calling the opposition conservatives for a reason.
I sincerely don't know what he's talking about. When has conservatism ever meant that?
GoldenEye 007
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So does this mean a gay couple could get married tomorrow, today, RIGHT NOW if they wanted to? What other hurdles might they still face? I'm assuming some individual churches might still refuse to marry a gay couple?
Regardless, this is a huge step forward and I am extremely happy.
Churches can do whatever they want and are not needed to issue marriage licenses. Some churches do marry gay couples, many don't. That likely won't change much.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Howard_Taft
Yeah, there really are no limits to human stupidity and ignorance.
Keep fucking that chicken.
Aaaaaaand, what about Citizens United, Mr. Bobbly Jingles?
teruterubozu
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Rush Limbaugh saying GOP candidates need to double-down on social issues and stop shying away from them.
Bwahahahaha!
Bwahahahaha!
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I said goddamn. What a great day.This is writing.
bobbychalkers
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lem0n
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I bet they never changed, though. Not that I'd honestly expect them to. Totally different time, and have lived with those beliefs for soooo long now. I had those types of relatives too, but luckily my mom is the "black sheep" of the family, (read: non religious and openminded) so I was in an environment where I didn't have to follow their lead. My mom taught me to love everyone no matter their differences. I'm so glad for that, looking back now.
Once again, Bush is the best Republican candidate for the election... fuck.
Keep fucking that chicken.
Yes but it hasn't seen anything since November 21: https://twitter.com/drrscarborough
Must mean he's dead already. RIP in peace Rickard Scarbro
Hahahaha holy shit he's actually advocating for the removal of the Supreme Court. I can't wait for the debates.
Keep fucking that chicken.
Veritigo_X
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Update from the frothy guy:
Yes the people must speak. We the people aren't so sure we like this free country thing any more. Can we try how Saudi Arabia is doing it? I like their style...
Still no tweets from Sarah Palin.
Keep fucking that chicken.
Can the GOP debates get started please? I think we're going to witness the party implode.
n0razi
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I am extremely lucky that in my facebook feed I have people from all political sides, and i have pages of entertainment now...
ElectricBlanketFire
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Keep fucking that chicken.
Won't businesses benefit from gay marriage legalization? Bakeries, florists, clothing outlets, caterers (sans Indiana pizzerias), event coordinators, DJs, photographers, etc...
The capitalism is palpable.
balladofwindfishes
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What are conservatives saying they need to "fight"
What fight? There's no "fight" to this. This is the end. The final ruling. They cannot appeal any further and laws cannot be made to contradict this ruling.
There is literally nothing they could (legally) do to "fight" against gay marriage
What fight? There's no "fight" to this. This is the end. The final ruling. They cannot appeal any further and laws cannot be made to contradict this ruling.
There is literally nothing they could (legally) do to "fight" against gay marriage
BobTheFork
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Feels like the the cherry on the bigot sundae is the arrogant belief that since this finally happened in Murica, NOW God is pissed.
Brian Griffin
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Get fucked bigots. I hope conservative tears aren't toxic in high doses.
Agent_Carnage
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Finally some good news. Between this and the Obamacare rulling yesterday the SCOTUS finally doing something good for a change.
alfredofroylan
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They're fighting for the right-wing vote.
I was the exact same way. However, similarly I've matured and grown to believe in gay rights. Today is an amazing day for everyone!To be fair back in 2004 I probably thought the same.. or just simply as a whatever-issue since I was much younger and dumber and didn't care or need to care; I was informed by conservative ideas (mostly residual from my parent's parents thoughts), and who used "that's gay" as slang.
I don't anymore and the news about it being legal has me so freaking happy for the USA! I hated that I thought so narrowly now, but hindsight is 20/20 and politicians I'm sure have compromised their feelings for votes and have changed positions on matters as new information rolls in.
It's also Pride Week in Canada and its been just all around a wonderful week to celebrate love in all shapes in forms. Happy, happy day! And a happy pride to all.
And some Utena and Anthy to celebrate for being ahead of their time
TatteredHat
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Give it time, I'm sure they'll appear.
DrROBschiz
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Check out @tim_cook's Tweet: https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/614449483292618752?s=15
Lol are christians gonna throw away their iphones?
Lol are christians gonna throw away their iphones?
teruterubozu
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Lots of talk about the Revolution and the Civil War on talk radio today, especially Glenn Beck.
n0razi
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I never understand how so many GAFfers have socially conservative facebook friends.
Mine whittled themselves down, but maybe that's because I'm just so darned confrontational all the time
i dont block people being people.. if i blocked everyone i disagreed with, there would be no one... its jsut some subjects seem to hit a higher note for others
Pop-O-Matic
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A little music to celebrate with...
You'd think by now people would have learned that if they don't have the little blue verified checkmark next to their name, it isn't actually that celebrity's Twitter account...
You'd think by now people would have learned that if they don't have the little blue verified checkmark next to their name, it isn't actually that celebrity's Twitter account...
GameGuru59
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They could cease giving out marriage licenses altogether, and call everyone's marriage a civil union. I think that's what Mississippi and Louisiana may do. Maybe Alabama.
From the world of sports, Vikings CB Josh Robinson:
Josh Robinson ✔@JROB_2one
Love is love? So what will we say when the 30yr old loves YOUR 10 year old. When the dad loves HIS 6 year old? It's different?? Yea okay!
10:41 AM - 26 Jun 2015
I guess my box turtle husband and I will be choosing a new team to root for this year.
Josh Robinson ✔@JROB_2one
Love is love? So what will we say when the 30yr old loves YOUR 10 year old. When the dad loves HIS 6 year old? It's different?? Yea okay!
10:41 AM - 26 Jun 2015
I guess my box turtle husband and I will be choosing a new team to root for this year.
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