Marvel announces Tom Holland will play Spider-Man, Jon Watts to direct

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entrement said:
Aren't audiences tired of Spiderman reboots by now?

Even Batman had some rest time between reboots.
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4 years?

Gap between TDKR and Batman v Superman is 4 years

ASM 2 and 2017 Spidey, 3 years.

Spider-Man 3 and ASM was 5 years

Batman and Robin and BB was 8 years

Not really that much difference.
 
excelsiorlef said:
4 years?

Gap between TDKR and Batman v Superman is 4 years

ASM 2 and 2017 Spidey, 3 years.

Spider-Man 3 and ASM was 5 years

Batman and Robin and BB was 8 years

Not really that much difference.
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I always point this out, but conveniently those post are never noticed. Gonna be funny when we get a new Batman since Affleck is gonna be pushing 50 after his first standalone Batman movie is out.

It's not like WB fucked Batman up like Sony did Spidey, Nolan films were extremely successful. But here we are getting a new Batman next year lol. Are Batman and Superman the only heroes that get a free pass with reboots?
 
What happened to that other actor who said he was Spider man? His girlfriend even wrote on her Instagram bio "Ms Spiderman" or something like that.
 
excelsiorlef said:
4 years?

Gap between TDKR and Batman v Superman is 4 years

ASM 2 and 2017 Spidey, 3 years.

Spider-Man 3 and ASM was 5 years

Batman and Robin and BB was 8 years

Not really that much difference.
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Wouldn't Sony/MCU Spidey count as 2 years since the character is debuting in Captain America: Civil War? (I know it's supposed to be a cameo and Holland will only be on set for a week.)
 
The Anticipated Spider-Man

When is a reboot not a reboot? When it happens every five years.

In 2010, the reaction to the recasting of Spider-Man with Andrew Garfield was fierce enough to inspire charged Internet campaigns. On Tuesday, the role changed hands again, going to the 19-year-old English actor Tom Holland, who will appear in the third Captain American movie next year before getting his own film in 2017. This time, the news was greeted with shrugs. Holland is by all accounts a talented young actor, and since he’s actually a teenager, he’s perhaps a better fit to play the comic books’ high-school student Peter Parker than Garfield or Tobey Maguire, both of whom were in their mid-to-late 20s when they took on the role. Still, Holland will be the third onscreen Spidey in less than 10 years, and is by far the least familiar face, raising the question of whether audiences have the appetite to watch this particular origin story again.

Holland’s casting is a by-product of corporate negotiations: Marvel Comics owns the film rights to most of its characters, but Spider-Man is in the hands of Sony, which has produced two franchises since 2002—a trilogy from director Sam Raimi starring Maguire, and two films from Marc Webb starring Garfield. Now, thanks to a unique production deal, Spider-Man can exist in the shared Marvel Cinematic Universe, but Sony can keep the profits from his appearances: Starting next year, fans can watch Spider-Man work with Iron Man and Captain America. But box-office returns show that as the superhero has been recast and rebooted, audience loyalty has fallen dramatically—and the lukewarm reaction to Holland’s casting is perhaps further proof of the same downward slide.
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I'm not sure how the author of the piece is getting to "lukewarm reaction" from "one post on Hypable." I think the reaction has moved to at least cautiously optimistic in this thread, anyway.

There's more about the possibility of revitalizing the Spider-Man franchise and how Spider-Man's recasting difficulties might be a harbinger of difficulties to come when it comes to replacing the current crop of actors for various superheroes.
 
Mumei said:
The Anticipated Spider-Man



I'm not sure how the author of the piece is getting to "lukewarm reaction" from "one post on Hypable." I think the reaction has moved to at least cautiously optimistic in this thread, anyway.

There's more about the possibility of revitalizing the Spider-Man franchise and how Spider-Man's recasting difficulties might be a harbinger of difficulties to come when it comes to replacing the current crop of actors for various superheroes.
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Yeah this is completely misguided. Reaction to the new Spider-Man is not lukewarm because of the actor. It's because every recent Spider-Man film produced by Sony has generally been received less favorably than the last.
 
Kevin Feige: Next Spider-Man Will Have New Villains, John Hughes Vibe

As a long-time reader of Spider-Man comics what sticks in my mind about Peter Parker’s adventures aren’t the villain battles or the crossovers or the epic storylines. It’s the soap opera. It’s the relationship between Peter and his Aunt May, the relationship between Peter and his high school group, the relationship between Peter and the world at large. That old Parker luck, always bad. Characters like Flash Thompson, Liz Allan, Betty Brant, Ned Leeds, Jean DeWolff are all a big part of who Spider-Man is to me, and those characters have either never appeared in a movie or have been shunted aside. How is it that after five Spider-Man films we’ve never had a great Flash Thompson storyline?

I hope Kevin Feige agrees with me. Talking to him this weekend at the Ant-Man junket I asked about this aspect of the Spidey story and whether we might see more of the soap opera side of Peter Parker’s life in the next film. Feige dropped an atom bomb of a reference in his reply: John Hughes.

“It’s the soap opera in high school, and those supporting characters, that are interesting,” said Feige. “Just as we hadn’t seen a heist movie in a long time, or a shrinking movie in a long time, we haven’t seen a John Hughes movie in a long time. Not that we can make a John Hughes movie - only John Hughes could - but we’re inspired by him, and merging that with the superhero genre in a way we haven’t done before excites us.”

For Feige that aspect - the soap opera, the supporting characters - means that the stakes in a Spider-Man film are not only about the machinations of the villain.

“What’s fun about a Spider-Man movie for us - I think you pointed this out, that Inside Out had the biggest stakes of any movie this summer,” Feige said, referring to this editorial. “Stakes don’t need to be end of the world. Oftentimes, in our films, it is, and in our future films Thanos doesn’t work small. But sometimes the stakes can just be ‘Will this little girl grow up to be healthy and well put-together, or are there too many issues for her to overcome?’ That’s HUGE! That overrides a threat to reality itself. And I think Spider-Man straddles that line in a fun way in his comics. What we wanted was a movie where the stakes could be as high as ‘This bad person is going to do this bad thing, and a lot of people could die’ OR ‘You don’t get home in time and your aunt is going to figure this out, and your whole life is going to change.’

“Particularly at that age, in high school, everything feels like life or death. The tests feel like life or death. Coming home from being out with your friends seemed like life or death. The stakes are high at that age, for the same reason you talk about in Inside Out.”

Feige says that Spidey has a deep bench of rogues. “That’s the advantage,” he told me. “Right now we’re interested in seeing villains we haven’t seen before.” So no Green Goblin this time around (although don’t be shocked if Harry and Norman Osborn show up). Could it finally be The Vulture’s time to shine? Or will there be a Kraven the Hunter or a Mysterio or a Molten Man in our cinematic future? I’d love to see Spider-Slayers, or maybe the Chameleon teaming up with a villain who offers more of a physical threat.
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Mumei said:
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Well, whatever his exact height is, he's short. This picture was from when he was 17, though, so he could be taller than that now.
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If he's 5'8", then he's around average, not short. It'd be better if he's 5'6". I feel like he'd stand out more, ironically.
 
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