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99% of girls I match with on tinder either talk to me for a few days, then suddenly go silent, are bots, or are from out of town. I deleted the app.
 
So the girl at the bar was there again last night, she had a friend with her and I heard her mention a boyfriend. Once again though, she came over to me and gave me a hug before she left, and would let me go until I'd said her name. I'm not sure how to proceed, I don't look forward to the fiasco that would occur by trying to date a taken woman. At the same time, she is really interesting. Anyone have thoughts on what I should do to encourage her to keep me in mind for when she breaks up with her boyfriend?
 
So the girl at the bar was there again last night, she had a friend with her and I heard her mention a boyfriend. Once again though, she came over to me and gave me a hug before she left, and would let me go until I'd said her name. I'm not sure how to proceed, I don't look forward to the fiasco that would occur by trying to date a taken woman. At the same time, she is really interesting. Anyone have thoughts on what I should do to encourage her to keep me in mind for when she breaks up with her boyfriend?

It sounds like she wants to be your friend. Thus, you should be her friend. She seems like a lovely person. (Outgoing, fun girls typically love setting their friends up, too.)
 
So the girl at the bar was there again last night, she had a friend with her and I heard her mention a boyfriend. Once again though, she came over to me and gave me a hug before she left, and would let me go until I'd said her name. I'm not sure how to proceed, I don't look forward to the fiasco that would occur by trying to date a taken woman. At the same time, she is really interesting. Anyone have thoughts on what I should do to encourage her to keep me in mind for when she breaks up with her boyfriend?

Was this "boyfriend" she mentioned, her boyfriend?
 
Was this "boyfriend" she mentioned, her boyfriend?
Yes, the conversation was something like "so and so lives a block from my boy friend's house, so when I'm too drunk to drive home I call him."
 
Met my SO through Tinder =)

Is it a weird conversation when people ask how you met?

Don't talk for days. Meet up ASAP.

You're in Vegas - probably tons of prostitutes or fakers on there.

There are a lot of fake, conniving women in this city. Not the best place to meet women. Out here it seems like all women want someone at least 3-4 years older than them, too. I don't really know how to bring about meeting up. I suck some serious ass when it comes to talking to women.
 
Tinder works wonderfully if you put the time and effort in. People shouldnt blame the app.
Yep. Pretty much any time I see someone say it sucks, and they show their profile and the messages they sent, everyone sees what's wrong with their game.

It doesn't matter how bad looking you are or where you are in life, you should be able to be funny, charming, and not fucking creepy, misogynistic, or scary in any way. But a lot of dudes can't do that for some reason.

For example:

There are a lot of fake, conniving women in this city.

...

I suck some serious ass when it comes to talking to women.
 
Is it a weird conversation when people ask how you met?



There are a lot of fake, conniving women in this city. Not the best place to meet women. Out here it seems like all women want someone at least 3-4 years older than them, too. I don't really know how to bring about meeting up. I suck some serious ass when it comes to talking to women.



We both mostly get laughs when people ask and followed up by them being amazed it worked for us. Seems a lot of people use Tinder but don't get anything out of it.

I know her for 2 months now and we're going on a midweek holiday next week. Things are going so fast with us and we're both in love with each other. Never expected this to happen so I'm so happy :)
 
So um I like this girl at work but the problem is that not only we work in different departments I don't know how to approach her. Should I let her know what my intentions are or keep it simple to see where this goes?
 
Yep. Pretty much any time I see someone say it sucks, and they show their profile and the messages they sent, everyone sees what's wrong with their game.

It doesn't matter how bad looking you are or where you are in life, you should be able to be funny, charming, and not fucking creepy, misogynistic, or scary in any way. But a lot of dudes can't do that for some reason.

For example:

When I said I suck ass at talking to women, I meant in person. When it comes to tinder, I'm the one that keeps the conversation going. I usually get laughs out of girls on there. I'm not mislgynistic, scary, or creepy. You have to understand that women in this city are goddamn superficial.

We both mostly get laughs when people ask and followed up by them being amazed it worked for us. Seems a lot of people use Tinder but don't get anything out of it.

I know her for 2 months now and we're going on a midweek holiday next week. Things are going so fast with us and we're both in love with each other. Never expected this to happen so I'm so happy :)

So long as it works, then great!
 
I'm not mislgynistic, scary, or creepy. You have to understand that women in this city are goddamn superficial.

Riiiiiight.

What you have to understand is that not once in my life have I considered declaring that an entire city of women are "conniving" and "goddamn superficial".

Consider this. I don't know you, and now that I've seen you utter such a sentence I think you're an idiot. Do you suppose that you feeling okay with saying something like that to us is a revealing look at your personality? Do you suppose that you could be revealed as a person not to date as quickly as you were revealed as an idiot to me? I think it's likely.

It's probable that you're not actually an idiot but I don't have a lot to go on here and neither do people that could potentially date you.
 
Riiiiiight.

What you have to understand is that not once in my life have I considered declaring that an entire city of women are "conniving" and "goddamn superficial".

Consider this. I don't know you, and now that I've seen you utter such a sentence I think you're an idiot. Do you suppose that you feeling okay with saying something like that to us is a revealing look at your personality? Do you suppose that you could be revealed as a person not to date as quickly as you were revealed as an idiot to me? I think it's likely.

It's probable that you're not actually an idiot but I don't have a lot to go on here and neither do people that could potentially date you.

Smart man, you're quite right.

What I meant was 'a lot' of women are superficial here (Vegas), not all.
 
So the girl at the bar was there again last night, she had a friend with her and I heard her mention a boyfriend. Once again though, she came over to me and gave me a hug before she left, and would let me go until I'd said her name. I'm not sure how to proceed, I don't look forward to the fiasco that would occur by trying to date a taken woman. At the same time, she is really interesting. Anyone have thoughts on what I should do to encourage her to keep me in mind for when she breaks up with her boyfriend?

Why not just be her friend?
 
I'm an introverted guy and the girl I like at work is one too. but I don't know how to approach her especially when we work at different departments.

Edit: too vague?

Do you ever come across/interact with her during your normal work day? Something that is related to work and not just you wanting to shoot the crap?

Definitely make your intentions known. Don't beat around the bush.
 
Do you ever come across/interact with her during your normal work day? Something that is related to work and not just you wanting to shoot the crap?

Definitely make your intentions known. Don't beat around the bush.

I only see her in the morning and barely when it's time to clock out. So no I haven't really talked to her.

I can't help it.
 
I only see her in the morning and barely when it's time to clock out. So no I haven't really talked to her.

I can't help it.

That isn't a problem.

When you see her on Monday, pull her to the side, ask her if she is free on the weekend and ask her out.

When it comes to this kind of stuff, just be direct and do it quick. Sort of like pulling off a band-aid, do it fast. Don't stand there and talk about your life story.

Just make sure of two things. That you are confident when you ask her out. And that you are cool with dating someone from your workplace.
 
That isn't a problem.

When you see her on Monday, pull her to the side, ask her if she is free on the weekend and ask her out.

When it comes to this kind of stuff, just be direct and do it quick. Sort of like pulling off a band-aid, do it fast. Don't stand there and talk about your life story.

Just make sure of two things. That you are confident when you ask her out. And that you are cool with dating someone from your workplace.

Yeah. I meant as well since my co-workers and her Mother knows about it. Saying I should go for it.
 
Figured I should join this thread instead of littering up the Online dating thread..considering we've been seeing each other a little over a month it's official enough I guess to drop my drama over here.

Try to give the back-story, and drama that comes with it, need all the input I can..been out the "game" for almost 15 years so I'm flying blind.
Ok..I'm a single dad, widower,1 kid who's a teen.
She's steam rolling through a divorce (years of abuse) and has 3 kids.
Both 36.

Met on match, hit it off FAST.
Every date is an electric mix of chemistry, sexual and emotional. She's waaaay out of my league and it excites me and intimidates me.

Not gonna lie..first date and every date ended with a mutual exchange of oral sex.
We slept together on the 5th date..then she dumped me. Was a slew of reasons..
She had only been with 2 men her whole life, her husband and a guy she dated 12 years ago before she married him.
That one guy has been around forver, trying to win her back..and he messaged her the day after we slept together saying and "knew" she did something..
Plus she said I "pounded her like a hooker"
All this compounded into breaking up with me the next morning...the texting me a "sorry, I think I'm in love with you 2 days later"

So, back together we got..

More dates, more oral sex..more electric and perfect chemistry. The laughs, the conversation, the attraction...always perfect.

Then sex entered the equation again..
This time, I got performance anxiety cause honestly..I think I fell in love with her.
She was LIVID..said hurtful things, said she could have 100 men begging to be in my position etc..
Next day..I'm sorry and she will work with me.
And she did, we took it slow and had very Luke warm sex to be honest.

She leaves for a week to go with her girlfriend to the islands and texts me everyday.
I love yous, EXTREME sexting, etc..

She came back last week...My anxiety was a thing of the past..
5 days straight I arrived at her house and we had sex 5 or 6 times a night.
Then she confesses about while only being with 2 men her whole life she never came orally, which I've made her do 100's of times by now, and has always been intrested in anal which she wants me too do..and now that is in the nightly routine.

Now..She wants to mess with bondage, outfits, role play etc.. all stuff I'm used to so I oblige.

Ok...you see where this is going..


So here's the sour parts that keep me up at nights..

She needs me to be a secret till Aug. she says..
Abusive husband fears, divorce proceedings, and kids.
Pick up and drop offs for dates are covert and I let myself into her house and lock up then leave at 6am.

She's incredible looking and smart..men are throwing themselves at her all the time and I have to keep my mouth shut cause I'm the "secret"
She post a photo on instagram..BOOM..3 new dudes pestering her.
She has a millionaire art collector constantly pushing up on her.
Before we met she was intrested in this well known artist she commisioned work from, while she says that feeling is gone and they are just friends I still worry.
I do express how I hate all the men she always says "they are all just fanboy..your the one I love and your the one I fuck"

And that guy who's hung around for the last 10 years..still pestering away.
She's blocked him on all forms of social media and yet he finds ways to get messages to her via friends.

She always says "tell me what to do about these vultures" and I say "I'm not a jailer, you decided how to handle these things."
I'd like to say tell all these guys to fuck off, but I cant, and I'd like to tell them..but of course..I cant cause I'm still a "secret"

Tonight, after spending the day in the city with her friends the artist (which bugged me all day) she returned and we talked..but then after an hour or so of no response I ask what's up..
Seems the guy still carrying the torch for her wrote an email to someone she knows that was very bipolar and scary saying stuff like "Tell that assholes I still love her even tho she's fucking thay guy"
And now she's crying about it..

I tell her if she's crying then he still has power over her and everything I have done is in vain. She says this is what he wants, for me to leave her..
She begs and pleads not to leave her and he's the past and she loves me and all her love she had for him or her husband is all mine now.
Her pleads tho go from..
"Don't leave me, I love you and need you" to "Fine, your not strong enough, leave me"

So here I am..
I feel like I've fallen for a powder keg of problems and I don't know what to do.
Chemistry is perfect..we talk for hours and laugh and stare at each other unlike I've never done. The sexual chemistry..insane electric.

But..it's just a mine field of crazy for me dealing with this shit.
Not to mention..part of me thinks I may just be some wild ride she needs, a booty call almost.

Part of me wants to walk away...but I know that will be it, her pride is to strong to come after me if I leave her.
And, I have fallen for her and it would break my heart to not be with her.

It's a very damned if I do, damned if I don't situition.

So...
Game plan is to drop by at 10pm tomorrow..screw her brains out to 4am then out by 6am.
Not sure what tomorrow will bring tho in the morning..she got all pissy tonight before bed when I pulled a "You confuse me. I need to think."
She basically did a quick "Ok.Bye." After I said that..which was a clear "well you fuck you" move.

I know..bail out! Everyone tells me too..
3 kids, crazy husband, tons of guys messaging her everyday about her tits or asking to take her out, and she's slightly fucking nuts I think.

I'll keep ya guys updated! This ride is gonna be wild!
 
I could swear that Tinder and OKC are owned by the same company.

Nope, I'm not doing anymore online dating. Person-to-person matchmakers for me now on, any suggestions?
Fair enough, it sucks most of the time. Have any lady friends who would be willing to be your wingwoman or suggest one of their friends to you?
 
Fair enough, it sucks most of the time. Have any lady friends who would be willing to be your wingwoman or suggest one of their friends to you?

I have several co-workers/friends with really hot girlfriends that have friends. What happened to the days of friends setting up friends?
 
I'm more worried about dying from a stress then at the hands of her husband.

The fact that she wants to keep you a secret should be a warning sign already, though. Just bail out. Don't mess with crazy people.

No matter how well you're hitting it off it won't get any better / more serious if she doesn't commit. She's making you think you have more to lose than her and thus she doesn't need to commit into the relationship as much.

If she wouldnt want to come after you if you leave her, then you know she thinks you're below her level, like you think she's "way out of your league" as well. There's no leagues. There's just people.
 
Still need to get over your jealously issues, and trust issues.

Who cares if other guys "love" her? If she doesn't love them, who cares? You can't be mad at her for the way other people feel. She can't help that.

And if you're having troubles trusting her now, simply with other people finding her attractive, then that's a whole other can of worms. If you can't trust her, then there's not going to be a lasting relationship. First it's you thinking she's fucking other guys, then... well, okay, that's about it, but that's major. If you can't work past that, then just break it off, it'd be a toxic relationship for the both of you.
 
Got the fade after 5 pretty great dates. Apparently she mistook the wound on my lip I got from boxing training as a cold sore.

Now I feel stupid for stopping contact with other potential dates because I liked this one and thought it was going somewhere.
 
Got the fade after 5 pretty great dates. Apparently she mistook the wound on my lip I got from boxing training as a cold sore.

Now I feel stupid for stopping contact with other potential dates because I liked this one and thought it was going somewhere.

If she leaves you after that, she's a kid. 1 out of 3 people have it, she might have it without knowing it. Don't bother with kids.

Also, if out of the people you stopped seeing there was someone great for you, you would have kept seeing her too for a longer while at least. Don't worry.
 
I've been absent from this thread for a while now, but I have something to share. Not ask advice on, because I think I know what I should do, just share.
Some context first:
a. I was dating this girl, we dated for 2 years. In march she broke up with me because she didn't like the way I dressed to work/uni (flip flops and shorts most of the time, Its fucking hot here in Recife) and said she deserved someone better, someone who "gave more of a shit about their looks" (her words). I understood that, but I'am busy as fuck between getting my masters and work, so dressing up is not (and will not be for the forseeable future) a priority to me. So it's cool.
Two weeks later she wanted to be back together. I said yes because I still liked her a lot. Turns out it didn't work. She was treating me like crap, and I gave it to her straight saying if it was going to be like this I didn't want any of it. We had a huge fight. She complained about how she had to endure my sadness (when we started dating I had just ended another long relationship) and now I don't even want to change for her. So we broke up again and we didn't speak until last week.
b. I had a couple of balls rolling since the breakup. I went on 2 dates with the "magic" girl I talked about earlier in this thread, I had fun, but I wasn't feeling it, so I just moved on. The one that stuck with me was a date I had last month with this casual acquaintance that I also talked about in the thread. I asked her out, the date was awesome for me, but we didn't keep in touch. I didn't get too hung on it because that's just how it goes. Turns out she did like the date, it was just that she was going through though times with her family. So we went on a few more dates these past weeks. She is awesome and I really like her. We are not on a serious relationship yet and we haven't had sex yet, but we have kissed.
c. I still like my ex. I mean, we did fight and she did say some nasty stuff. But these 2 years we dated were awesome, we hardly fought and she was one hell of a companion, getting me through some really tough shit.

Now, to the present. Last week my ex said she wanted to talk, I said ok. We met at a restaurant near her place, we ate and talked a bunch. She said she was sorry, and that she wanted to break up because she felt she was way too young for a commitment like that and that she wanted to be with other guys too (I was the first and only person she ever had sex with) but she didn't want to propose an open relationship because she knew I'd be hurt (and I would). After that she said there were some stuff of mine still in her place (mainly games, I lent her the last of us and GTA V on the PS3, games which I didn't really want back) and that I should go pick up. So I went. Getting there I didn't even get the stupid games, instead we had sex.
The thing is, she doesn't want a relationship, and I feel like I've let myself fall for her again. I love her, but I know that this will only hurt me. I don't want a freaking open relationship, I'll only get hurt because I won't be able to be with anybody else and she'll go around beign with other guys. And the other thing is I can't even look this other girl in the eye anymore, I haven't seen her since our last date a week ago, but now responding to her texts is getting freaking hard. I feel disgusting as fuck. I know I should just move on, cut all contact with my ex and just tell the truth to this more recent girl, but this is so hard and I feel so much like shit.

Life sucks GAF. :(

PS: Sorry for my terrible english and awful formatting. I'm only good at short texts, when I go long I become worse and worse.
 
If she leaves you after that, she's a kid. 1 out of 3 people have it, she might have it without knowing it. Don't bother with kids.

It was probably partly my fault. I was a bit startled about her "no kissing" even though I explained the patch on the lip is from a boxing wound. Felt a bit like an "outcast" which is why I wasn't as confident as on the dates before.
And then later when we were in my bed (half naked and after 30 mins intense cuddling) she said "we stop it here. I can't trust myself not to kiss you when we have sex again"
I was a bit annoyed. Probably could have handled that better.

But that is one of my pet peeves. After a certain age you don't just get hot and heavy and half naked in the bedroom and then stop completely and go home. In my opinion at least.
 
Fabulous so you know what you need to do is cut her off then right?

Please don't make the same mistake I did... Suffering for it atm
 
Life sucks GAF. :(
She doesn't like you enough, man. You should be happy that she was at least very honest about it and admitted to wanting other men. There is absolutely no reason for you to linger around and mope. Cut contact and go meet other girls.
 
Wondering if this sounds somewhat strange to anyone else?

So not too long ago I started talking to this girl who works in another department at work. She would always seem to go out of her way to talk to me or if she saw me in passing she would stop me to talk. She's a very cute girl and I'm thinking, "Hey maybe she's interested in me?".

So we start going on walks together around the campus almost everyday. She's even asked me out to lunch. I'm enjoying getting to know her and at this point we've spent quite a bit of time getting to know each other so I'm pretty much ready to ask her out. Only thing is I wasn't sure if she had a boyfriend or not. She had never mentioned one in all the times we talked but I figure I may as well ask first. Anyways we were talking about musical instruments we played or something and I said, "So what does your current boyfriend play?" as a not so subtle way of finding out if she had a boyfriend. Well turns out she does have one.

We still talk and go on walks together I just found it odd that after all that time we had been talking she just kinda didn't mention a boyfriend? I know if I was dating someone it would just be a normal thing to mention in conversation when someone asks what you did last weekend for instance. It also seems kinda bogus to the dude she's dating that he's not worth mentioning to other people or something.
 
Or maybe she likes to keep her relationship private. You guys do work with each other. Some people don't like to discuss their private life with coworkers.
 
Or maybe she likes to keep her relationship private. You guys do work with each other. Some people don't like to discuss their private life with coworkers.

I mean we talk about other shit we do outside of work, what we did over the weekend, our family, etc. Just feel like if it was me mentioning, "Oh I went to a show with my girlfriend Saturday" that would just be a completely normal thing to say in conversation. Doesn't seem very private to me. I'm not asking about her sex life.
 
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