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Suicide Squad Official Trailer Drop

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That's not refuting the points.

I'm not saying that Leto's a bad actor. I'm sure he'll make for a great Jacket Dan.

Good actors research parts though. Skepticism is expected but you may be underestimating him just a tad by speculating he'll be completely ignorant of the character he'll be playing, one of the most popular in fiction.
 
I dont think Smith is going to be even as good as Arrow Deadshot but we'll see


Everytime I think I'm gonna like Suicide Squad I remember Jai Courtney is in it and all the hype disappears

I'll probably still see it but god he's the worst

Well he playing Captain Boomerang who you are meant to hate because he is such a un likeable asshole so you can freely hate Jai in this film
 
Everytime I think I'm gonna like Suicide Squad I remember Jai Courtney is in it and all the hype disappears

I'll probably still see it but god he's the worst

I'm hardly a Courtney fan (dude is dull as wood sometimes), but he played a great smarmy villain in Jack Reacher, which is how Captain Boomerang is basically, so he may surprise.

If the movie ends up going sideways though, it won't be because of him. Plus he's got those mutton chops.

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Hopefully Boomerang gets killed off. Shit character, even shitter actor. Be interesting to see who gets killed off and who remains, and whether or not they go for a slimmer squad in the future. Gonna need some padding in this film to get rekt by Joker right...

All bets on Diablo dying.
 
That they threw in the Batman on car shot is a bit strange. You'd think they'd make a huge deal about him showing up in the movie.
 
It's been a while since I read anything with her in it, but my understanding of Harley's origin is that she was a psychiatrist that studied The Joker so much that she became obsessed with him and went crazy.

Changing things so that The Joker literally tortured her into existence (if that's actually what happens) seems like it's going top rub a lot of people the wrong way.
 
I think it would be more interesting to bet on the order of deaths.
Diablo # 1.
That they threw in the Batman on car shot is a bit strange. You'd think they'd make a huge deal about him showing up in the movie.

It was all over the internet for about a month now. No need for that. I think they'd want people to see Batman is in suicide squad and go watch the film as a result. I think that makes more sense.
 
generic craziness? based off of what?

you heard him cackle once

oh good you saw him walking and say one line. totally judge how well he's doing just off of that

and what about goofy visual design says ledger? that's pretty much the opposite direction really

I mean, yeah.

I'm not aligned to my viewpoint. If I see something that seems like Leto is playing the Joker I'm sure my opinion will change. But generic psycho, blue-eyed cartoon villain cackling Jacket Dan isn't doing it for me yet.
 
Does nothing for me, really dislike Leto Joker still after finally getting to hear him too. Just comes off as some bad Joker cosplay variant that you see a million of at every con.

With the wild facial expressions and fucked up silver-toothed grin? He actually looks like someone who belongs in a straight jacket to me. Maybe two, just to be safe.
 
Fuck, Leto's Joker actually makes my stomach turn over (in a good way). It's the exact sort of revulsion you should have when viewing the character. Ledger's did it too on first watch, but it wore off on multiple viewings.

I actually really like Quinn too. They were never going to do the classic Sorkin voice, and from Tara Strong's irritating impersonation of late I'm glad they didn't try.
 
I think it would be more interesting to bet on the order of deaths.

Diablo # 1.

# 2 Slipknot
# 3 Enchantress
# 4 Katana or Croc
# 5 Flag or Deadshot in a heroic sacrifice type fashion possibly.

Possibly Boomerang too, but less likely. It won't be all of them, but at least 3-4 are probable.
 
So who are the characters in this?

Joker
Batfleck
Harley
Killer Crock
Deadshot? Or the other assassin with the orange black mask I always get them confused.

I don't know the rest, but I did see the DC animated film about this same group.
 
It's been a while since I read anything with her in it, but my understanding of Harley's origin is that she was a psychiatrist that studied The Joker so much that she became obsessed with him and went crazy.

Changing things so that The Joker literally tortured her into existence (if that's actually what happens) seems like it's going top rub a lot of people the wrong way.

Harley already seems to rub people the wrong way. She's essentially in an abusive relationship and many people seem to have an issue with that.

That being said if this is what turns her I'm not really against it. She could still have fallen for him but was trying to get him to change. This could be the Joker just taking advantage of her.

This could also lead her to having a split personality. Tortured so bad that she creates the Harley persona in order to deal with and make sense of it all.
 
Aww, does Harley not have an accent? Was on the fence before, but now I'm just disappointed so far with this Harley.
Everything else is looking great.
 
I liked the trailer and am looking forward to the movie after that joker scene. I have always loved how much of a genius the Joker is at mind games, so lets see him make Harley (If that's the scene).
 
Well considering the title of the film is "Suicide Squad" and yet the teams official name is "Task Force X", it's to stop the dissonance between the title of the film and the actual content. Suicide Squad has always been a nickname for the squad made up by the members. Did you cringe at Tony Stark's line in Avengers: "If we can't save the world, then we'll sure as hell Avenge it", because that's a hundred times more on the nose than this.

never seen the avengers but I assume it works because those films are less self serious so a line like that could be delivered with a wink and a nod. That's what I'm saying about the tone of the film not matching those moments.
 
So who are the characters in this?

Joker
Batfleck
Harley
Killer Crock
Deadshot? Or the other assassin with the orange black mask I always get them confused.

I don't know the rest, but I did see the DC animated film about this same group.

Slipknot - Mastery of ropes
Enchantress - Magic user. Switches from hero to villain depending on the tale. I expect her to
survive due to the existence of Justice League Dark on the DC docket.
El Diablo - Can control fire
Amanda Waller - Organizer of the squad. Outfits them with bombs so they stay pliant
Captain Boomerang - Mutton chopped Australian. Flash villain
Katana - hero (or antihero depending on perspective) who might be Flagg's right hand girl
Rick Flagg - Military expert who keeps them in check on the field

The other assassin your thinking of is Deathstroke
 
Still got bets that Scott Eastwood is Slade Wilson and movie ends with him having his "improvements" ,loses his eye then has surgery to save his life.
 
All bets on Diablo dying.

If Diablo dies, it won't be until the end of the movie in a glorious redemption death where he uses his powers to explode and stop the bad guys.
His redemption arc is a pretty big part of the early new 52 Squad stories.

Slipknot is fucking toast though.
 
Diablo
Slipknot he probably get head popped to show Waller don't mess around

Are dead men walking

I think it would be more interesting to bet on the order of deaths.
Diablo # 1.


It was all over the internet for about a month now. No need for that. I think they'd want people to see Batman is in suicide squad and go watch the film as a result. I think that makes more sense.

# 2 Slipknot
# 3 Enchantress
# 4 Katana
# 5 Flag or Deadshot in a heroic sacrifice type fashion possibly.

Possible Croc or Boomerang too. It won't be all of them, but at least 3-4 are probable.

Jesus, I forgot Slipknot was even in the movie.

When Diablo or Katana dies it'll be played up for drama or a meaningful sacrifice

Slipknot will die to establish that Waller isn't bluffing

Flagg will die to make way for Will Smith to take his place as "leader"
 
I understand the criticism for it being "edgy" but I'd rather DC take a radical change than do another boring, safe standard "super hero" movie like the majority of what Marvel has thrown out.
 
Hopefully Boomerang gets killed off. Shit character, even shitter actor. Be interesting to see who gets killed off and who remains, and whether or not they go for a slimmer squad in the future. Gonna need some padding in this film to get rekt by Joker right...

plz no

I like Boomerang, he's a sarcastic asshole that functions as a joke character put in these serious situations. I mean he works when he shouldn't, not that he's straight up comic relief. Plus I want to see him in Flash movies.

I can tell you right now slipknot is not coming out alive. Diablo neither. Flag may be up in the air, but I think it'd be better to off him in the sequel.
 
If Diablo dies, it won't be until the end of the movie in a glorious redemption death where he uses his powers to explode and stop the bad guys.
His redemption arc is a pretty big part of the early new 52 Squad stories.

Slipknot is fucking toast though.

If Slipknot isn't hanging from a ceiling before the end of the film I'll be surprised.
 
Would they really kill Enchantress though? I feel like they would want to milk Cara for a couple DC-verse movies.

I could see her crossing over into Justice League Dark but not so much the main league movies. Deadshot, Joker, Harley, Croc & Boomerang have the most cross over potential.
 
Still don't like the look of Joker or Croc but everything else looks good. I do find it amazing how better cut this trailer is than BvS.
 
A History of Slipknot being a Suicide Squad member

A stronghold of Manhunter robots is discovered deep in American swamplands not far from the Suicide Squad's own base located in the Belle Reve prison. Slipknot and the Squad, including members such as Bronze Tiger, Rick Flagg, and Captain Boomerang are sent in to escort the "Baby Huey" (a car-bomb laced with an experimental high yield explosive) on a search and destroy mission. Slipknot discusses the 'arm band bombs' with Captain Boomerang. These deterrent devices are placed on the less trustworthy members and are set to explode if the person goes too far out of range. Captain Boomerang states that he believes the bombs are fake. This is enough for Slipknot. When he discovers his talent for strangling is useless against robots he makes a run for it into the swamp. The device begins beeping and flashing an alarm but Slipknot ignores the warning and once he gets out of range, his right arm is blown off. Boomerang, who had not been sure of the bomb's reality himself, thinks 'better you than me'.

yeah he is fucked lol
 
Would they really kill Enchantress though? I feel like they would want to milk Cara for a couple DC-verse movies.

Probably not. She's not an obvious candidate at least, more likely Katana would eat it in this movie. I wouldn't mind her being in Justice League Dark.

That movie really needs to cast Matt Ryan from Constantine as Constantine. Give him a proper shot with that character, because he was the best part of that show.
 
I understand the criticism for it being "edgy" but I'd rather DC take a radical change than do another boring, safe standard "super hero" movie like the majority of what Marvel has thrown out.

They're... sigh... they're not... it's pointless arguing with you, I know, but Marvel's been anything but safe in the past 7 years. Are the movies narratively similar on a structural level? Sure. Doesn't stop them being tonally diverse and interesting to watch though.
 
I understand the criticism for it being "edgy" but I'd rather DC take a radical change than do another boring, safe standard "super hero" movie like the majority of what Marvel has thrown out.

Exactly. I hated the new Joker when that first pic dropped, but seeing this trailer sold me instantly. It just looks fresh and sometimes change is good.
 
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