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Can you not report nasty online players to Nintendo?
- Thread starter Karsticles
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Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Dat backseat modding.
He's just super concerned about his concern that concerns the concerns of the OP who is concerned about the children on the WiiU.
Apollo Cree
Member
Pictures and a Gaf thread seems like overkill to me.
Dude, I hope you find a solution.
Some of the responses you are getting....
Jesus...
I haven't bought a Wii U because of how backwards Nintendo chose to do communication, with them trying to make it more kid friendly.
This is not what I would like to hear if I was a parent looking to buy a kid friendly console.
Last gen, Xbox 360/PS3 had all the LOLFUCKYOUPUSSY "kids", now I wonder where the demographic shifted.
Zomba13
Member
Some people believe that you should be free to be a dick online to people because it's anonymous.
The way I look at shit online is the same way I do in real life, is it acceptable to do in person? Going up to someone on the street or at an event and calling them slurs or telling them to suck my dick or saying how I fucked their mom isn't ok so why should it just be ok and ignored online?
What gets to me isn't that people on the internet say nasty things to me, it's that people on the internet say nasty things and it's just accepted and encouraged because it's all part of the internet or the community and I feel that that is bullshit and shouldn't be accepted.
I think you should be able to report when that stuff happens if only to send the message that that stuff isn't ok. If they get banned or strikes on their account or whatever they might feel like they've won and annoyed someone but really, it's a button press or menu option compared to multiple to send stupid shit. And then, if these systems worked, they'd have to go through the effort of making a new account so they can continue to be dicks online or you know, be a normal person.
Well yes, it gives them a space to be insanely violent which can cross over to other mundane aspects of life like disrespecting family, authority figures or friends. Erradicating this behavior is both important for a nice online environment and to diminish violence against people. Online gaming is great, being able to play with anyone anytime is fantastic, but the numbers of egotistical bane little weirdos is indeed a huge problem that the gaming community needs to solve. It's normal now for us because we've had this problem for over 10 (or 15) years where you give someone a mic or whatever they'll turn into a little asshole. But everyone should be appalled by this unacceptable behavior and anyone saying that you should just grow a thick skin is just being an enabler on this type of behavior. If you don't do anything because you're too lazy or you find it amusing or whatever other reason, fine, that's good on you. But belittling someone for trying to do a good thing, and raise awareness on Nintendo's lack of easy reporting options, same company that pulled off their messaging app from 3ds.
Online harrasment is one of the biggest problems we face as an online community, and it should not be tolerated at all both for the sake of the offender and the offensor
AmethystEnd
Member
So, you're the guy on a moral pedestal hoping people get charged $200 for a pricing error/glitch (or order cancelled, as you say) and yet you don't understand Karsticles's position of wanting to prevent the person who cursed at him from cursing at a child?
Selective morality, how does it work? Pff.
@Karst: Keep fighting the good fight.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
I need receipts, OP. Online harassment can't possibly happen on Nintendo platforms because there's no voice chat.
Pictures are very helpful in reporting an incident.... you know... reporting an incident... what this thread is about...
Contrary to what a lot of these post would have you believe, he's not asking any of you for coping advice.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Outside of Miiverse, there is no way of reporting harmful content. And the Miiverse mods ignore half of the reports anyway, so pursuing it is a waste of your time.
Zomba13
Member
Exactly, he'd have to make another account, and if it kept happening he'd have to keep doing it. And re-adding his friends each time (if he had any). Even if it's a minor inconvenience it adds up and maybe on the fifth time he thinks "is it even worth calling this guy a pussy and asking him to suck my dick? Do I really want to put the effort in to re-making the account tomorrow?".
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Let's review the overkill:
1. He didn't know how to report it at the time, so he took pictures.
2. He asked us if we knew how.
This probably took a total of 5 minutes of the OP's time.
Apollo Cree
Member
The thread could have ended on page one with a yes or no. It moved onto a discussion of internet behavior.
Apollo Cree
Member
For a guy who spent 3 seconds to rustle some jimmies to cause someone to spend time trying to remove him from online play, that's a winning record.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
OP says his rationale for wanting to report this is to prevent children from seeing 'bad' words but aren't online interactions not rated by the ESRB? Isn't it up to the parents to moderate their children while playing online instead of using a game console as a baby sitter? I mean, the ESRB outright states:
Like others have said, you can go take a look at recently played with people to block somebody but there doesn't seem to be a report button. OP already mentioned they don't have a miiverse page so that's out of the question; next step would be to write a letter if you're that upset about it. Here is the link: http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/ask
Like others have said, you can go take a look at recently played with people to block somebody but there doesn't seem to be a report button. OP already mentioned they don't have a miiverse page so that's out of the question; next step would be to write a letter if you're that upset about it. Here is the link: http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/ask
Because the reporting was about internet behavior, and some of the first responses were condescending,tl;dr, or unhelpful.
This is how a response to OP should have been.
Why would it have ended on page one? He wants to know other people's methods and success in reporting. Every answer could help, especially considering this is Nintendo... not everything is straight forward.
And besides, your post had nothing to do with a discussion of internet behavior anyway. You said that taking a picture and making a thread seems to be overkill.
Overkill to what? How is taking a picture with the intention of reporting something overkill? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
I'm not sure what point you are attempting to make besides "OP did a thing that I would never do"
What if he/she is also 8 years old?
AmethystEnd
Member
Cool strawman; no one has said a damn thing about using a console as a babysitter in place of proper parenting. OP just wants a means to report an abusive player. Of course online interactions aren't rated by the ESRB because no one can predict what kind of foulness will come out of any given person. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be tools to report them. And MMOs and other online games do provide an easy way to report.
then it'd serve as a nice learning experience on how to present yourself in a public space
Even more reason to have them banned?
Makes it easier for a parent that didn't see the offence to find out the child is being rude?
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Are you really going around from thread to thread stalking me because I said people shouldn't be allowed to take advantage of a pricing error and should be charged the full amount or have the order cancelled? You need to get your priorities straight, this is creepy.
And yeah, isn't that wild how people have different morals? I think it's wrong to essentially steal but don't have an issue with people spamming curse words when you have the option to leave. So crazy.
Strawman? I don't think you know what that term means. OP got their answer already and the conversation has warped into discussing what is considered acceptable behavior while playing online. If you want to blame somebody get on Nintendo for not providing a competent online experience where you can report people like everyone else.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
All these terrible online policies of Nintendo's to protect myself and children and not even in game reporting options exist, smh.
AmethystEnd
Member
I'm in both threads. Your avatar sticks out. "So crazy"
No. I definitely know what it means. You decided to argue against using consoles as a babysitter and for parents to be responsible enough to prevent their children from "seeing bad words" to strengthen your position that people cursing online isn't a big deal, even though that wasn't the issue at all; OP was not upset that he was cursed at; he wanted to prevent the person from cursing at children. Nice try though.
Buh bye.
For smash at least, some one pointed out that in the moment, you do have and option to report, but not after you or they leave without a Miiverse account.
I dunno bro, it's just stalking
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Uh huh, right. Time to use the ignore feature, not about to get baited into your ridiculousness.
I think I'll just choose not to interact with them instead of writing a letter to Evilore
El Sabroso
Member
yo Kars, check through the System manual, press home then just manual while on the game or the main menu
Nintendo gives you in the last section of the manual the support phone, if is specific from a 3rd party game, also includes that company support contact, there you can call and ask where you can file the feedback of this user.
Also while in phone ask for where we can give direct feedback of system features, I wish Nintendo and Sony make the approach like MS giving space only for suggestions on what we want for the systems
Nintendo gives you in the last section of the manual the support phone, if is specific from a 3rd party game, also includes that company support contact, there you can call and ask where you can file the feedback of this user.
Also while in phone ask for where we can give direct feedback of system features, I wish Nintendo and Sony make the approach like MS giving space only for suggestions on what we want for the systems
Zomba13
Member
I dunno, you've got Vegeta in his hot pink shirt. It's a pretty stand-outish avatar.
AmethystEnd
Member
Right?
ebullientprism
Member
LOL seriously. I am betting this kid was under 15 himself. And he is pretty much like 80% of kids online in video games these days.
Fight the good fight though OP.
And we'd all be better off if they were banned from the internet. I support the OP's endeavor.
Oh, you mean like Sony does here?
About a 3 years into PS3 era in 2010, they allowed readers of the blog as well as users of the PlayStation Blog to submit ideas to the PlayStation team about anything PlayStation-related and vote on the ideas of other submissions
*an 8-year-old sits in a dark room, his boyish face lit by the glow of the TV screen; he giggles as he changes his Smash name to "Pussay"*
BOY: "Teehee!"
*suddenly, the door explodes open*
BOY: "What the —"
*silhouetted against the lightning flash of a dark and stormy night is a tall Haitian man built like a linebacker, with huge meaty fists and a $3,000 suit*
REGGIE: "I hope your body is ready, because Karsticle sent me to kick your ass."
BOY: "No, Reggie, no!"
*the next day on Fox News*
MEGYN KELLY: "...we will continue to investigate whether President Obama sacrifices children to the god Moloch on idols of burning brass. We now turn to news in a small Kentucky town where police are investigating the death — no, more like obliteration — of a young boy."
*camera shows a boy-shaped impact crater in the bedroom floor*
KELLY: "...it would appear that Pokemon devil worship is once again to blame."
BOY: "Teehee!"
*suddenly, the door explodes open*
BOY: "What the —"
*silhouetted against the lightning flash of a dark and stormy night is a tall Haitian man built like a linebacker, with huge meaty fists and a $3,000 suit*
REGGIE: "I hope your body is ready, because Karsticle sent me to kick your ass."
BOY: "No, Reggie, no!"
*the next day on Fox News*
MEGYN KELLY: "...we will continue to investigate whether President Obama sacrifices children to the god Moloch on idols of burning brass. We now turn to news in a small Kentucky town where police are investigating the death — no, more like obliteration — of a young boy."
*camera shows a boy-shaped impact crater in the bedroom floor*
KELLY: "...it would appear that Pokemon devil worship is once again to blame."
Apollo Cree
Member
You can mince words to drive whatever point you want.
Negative internet behavior is predicated on a reaction from their target. If the targets understand this, then the person gets bored and moves on. Ideally, the internet would have the means to remove the person as soon as they caused trouble. With online and voice interaction, it becomes nearly impossible on consoles.
You can have a reporting system for the player. With voice communications, a system to ban players quickly becomes abused as no evidence of the interaction exists unless a copy of the interaction is recorded. If it was stored, that much storage would be extremely expensive. You also have to pay a team of moderators to investigate.
After that, if the player does become banned, you need to hope they don't feel like making another account (which doesn't take much time compared to the amount of time it takes to actually rack up a ban). Alternatively, the company can force unique credit cards or form of identification to be tied to every account. This is something the internet would throw a massive fit over. Again, it's too costly to implement.
Console gaming doesn't have the convenience of pc servers for players to remove undesirables from their play session. It takes time and large amounts of money for consoles that have public multiplayer.
The simplest way to remove people who get their giggles from antagonizing people is to refuse to be antagonized. Online video games are the ideal place to teach young people this. Of course, this obviously excludes very personal and brutal attacks that would be classified as cyber bullying.
Not every fire needs to be put out with a fire extinguisher.
How do you know american media so well?
Because I work for the American media!
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
The amount of time you've spent posting and refreshing this thread to read responses seems like overkill to me.
joecanada
Member
best cure ever was the 599 ps3 people can mock all they want on Sony's "blunder" but the early days of ps3 were glorious, I rarely heard anyone under 15 and in games like socom with booting, you would get maybe one asshat every 20 matches.
All of my online multiplayer experiences on PS3 were with people who sounded like they were speaking in Spanish while buried under a pile of rags. Or at least, that's my recollection of Warhawk. "Amigo! Yo tengo mucho pantalones!"
EDIT: OK, that's not entirely true, I remember playing Anarchy Reigns and everyone sounded like a laughing black man, in particular Randy Jackson from American Idol. It was nice.
Gravy Boat
Member
That was my experience too with MW2. Also everyone who had a mic also seemed to have a crying baby in the background.
Yeah, if people can't handle silly nicknames, I don't think voice chat would go over well
I'm especially insufferable, because I constantly do a Randy Newman impression that I'm told sounds like Louie Armstrong
Gucci Messiah
Banned
They made a pretty compelling argument and the best you could come up with is a snarky reply that addresses absolutely zero of the points raised in the quoted text? It's fine if you disagree but at least put some effort into explaining why instead of posting these types of throw away responses.
Seriously, trolls only engage in their behavior because to provoke a reaction, if you ignore them then they usually move onto another target or just outright quit. Nintendo should probably have some sort of in-game reporting system and it's absolutely mind boggling that the company has all these unnecessary restrictions in place for moderation purposes but forgot something so important. The best that can be done currently is contacting customer service and there are a few links in this thread for those who wish to do so.
Or they could just have a mute option like everyone else, but that's an argument for another thread. Don't want to turn this into Splatoon voice chat 2.0
any and all randy newman impressions are a public service to the world at large
that's a reactionary solution
That's not the point and you know it. The point is they should make it easy to report things like this and they don't.
They also should include voice chat in all of their games. It's backwards that they don't and it's even more backwards people defend them for it.