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Fighting Games Weekly | July 20-26 | No Gods or Kings, Only Tears

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Week of July 20th to the 26th, 2015.

Fighting Games Weekly is a place for all things fighting games. News, game discussion, events, streams, videos, players, drama, everything fighting game related. Here are some quick links:


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Street Fighter V Beta Begins [ Thread ] [ Thursday ] [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • Needs no further description: the Street Fighter series welcomes it's first of 3 planned betas, strictly intended to test netcode.
  • This event continues through Wednesday.
  • More information is available here.


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Every week, FGW will spotlight one GAFer to get a better picture of their history with fighting games, their preferences, and much more. For this week's FGW Player Spotlight, we will be taking a closer look at Malice215!

What fighting games do you currently play, what is your all time favourite and why?
I play Soulcalibur V on and off since I’m not actively competing. I also play VF5FS and SC2 on the side.

Favorite fighting game of all time starts with Street Fighter 2 because of the impact the game had on the fighting game genre, in pop culture, and on my life. You couldn’t go anywhere back in the day without running into a SF2 cabinet. When the home version dropped on the SNES, it was all I played for an entire year until I was able to throw a fireball. Played the crap out of each home version since including ST on the 3DO, which I still have.

Next favorite is Soul Blade. Soul Blade is the game that really converted me over to 3D fighting games, which is what I mainly play now. Everything about the game was amazing for it’s time back in the 90’s, especially the opening movie and single player content.

3rd Strike also holds a special place in my heart. I’m garbage at the game and the balance is cheeks, but I love everything else about it from the artwork, to the animations, to the game music. We wouldn’t have EVO Moment #37 without it. Every week, I watch the Game Versus streams before I go to work. It’s beautiful that people still keeping the game going.
What are your favorite mechanics from the current selection of fighting games and why? What are your least favorite and why?
The most favorite has to be X-factor as it can make for some hype moments. The least favorite also has to be X-factor. I’m glad that I don’t compete in Marvel 3 because I would have beaten someone with a console at some of the ridiculous stuff I’ve seen over the years, but that’s part of what makes Marvel 3 so entertaining to watch despite how the meta has shifted.

Another favorite is the ring out. There’s not many games that have it, but I enjoy it as a way of rewarding movement and positioning, unless you happened to play SC4 early on.
What got you into fighting games? Are there any other genre of games you play?
I’ve been a gamer since birth and used to competing against friends and family in games like Tecmo Bowl and Ring King where you’d try to knock someone out the ring, so fighting games came to me naturally once SF2 blew up. When I saw Samurai Shodown for the first time in the arcade, that’s when I knew that fighting games were for me. Any chance I could, I was at the arcade or the Chinese store playing against whoever. I would travel around to the arcades in Philly until only one was left, which was where Big E was working at before he started running his own events.

As for other genres, I just play whatever game that is good regardless of genre. Now that I am old and have limited time, I just stick to a few fighting, shooting and racing games. I’m also pretty good at Hearthstone, but don’t have hours a day to play it like other people. I also started playing Tetris to get some use out of my arcade stick, which I have been neglecting.
What is your favorite fighting game character and why?
My favorite fighting game character is Sophitia because she’s strong, sexy, and does a grip of damage. Another favorite is Setsuka because of her character design and how she plays. I also love Christie from DOA because of her fighting style and because of how damn fine she is as well.
Describe your style of play, and how do you play (local, online, etc.).
I like to play high risk/high reward which you want to be careful of in high level play as players typically trying to play as lame as possible to limit risk. The character that I use revolves around block/whiff punishment, so I also play a spacing game to make my opponent whiff or punish them when they do an unsafe move.

Growing up I either played in the arcade, or people would come to my house to play. After I joined the military, I was out of fighting games for a while until a friend of mine introduced me to where the arcades were on Okinawa, which were a long way away from where I worked. On the weekends, I would hop on the bus, then walk to the arcades where I would play some Zero 3’, KOF 2002, and SC2. Once I was done with college and had a steady job, I got back into fighting games with DOA4, T5DR and VF5. When SC4 dropped, I was playing online, but the online play was so frustrating to the point where it made me seek out offline competition and help start a local scene and being involved in the community.
What do you feel are your biggest strengths and weaknesses as a player?
My biggest strength is composure. You can’t let what goes on within the game break your concentration and take you out of your gameplan. You also don’t want to get too excited before the match has completed. Nobody likes a premature pop off.

Weaknesses are that I fall into some bad habits and patterns. I also don’t spend enough time learning a game like I should. Some people are just nerds and know everything about a game, combos, frame data, etc. I wish I had the time like I did when I was young with no responsibilities to spend hours a day on a game, so I am just out here trying to have some fun and press some buttons.
Best and worst moments in the your fighting game career?
Every moment that I have been able to spend in the community has been great. I have been able to meet so many different people throughout the years in various communities, or people would come up wanting to meet me because of what I said on commentary, or through Twitch/Twitter. I love meeting people and learning more about them. At my first tournament, I met someone who served in the same unit as I did in the Marines.

I was able to go to my first EVO in 2012 and meet so many different people, act a damn fool, and see others creepin, which makes me sad to miss it this year. There’s so much that goes on that you need to be there in person for if you haven’t been to one yet.

Worst moments are missing out on events. Watching from home is definitely not the same. It’s been a long time since my last tournament, either because of financial reasons or taking care of real life stuff which come before video games. I missed out on EVO this year because of a car accident. I missed NEC last year because a friend of my mom’s was in the hospital and had no family to help her out. Then there are moments from the late 90’s to early 2000s that I wish I were around for instead of waiting to go to war somewhere on the other side of the world. I’m just fortunate that I have been able to be a part of some cool ones.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-mln-T0GGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjKIzI_GLjk
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What do you want from future fighting games?
We’re almost into 2016 and still dealing with games with bugs and ass netkode, so hopefully that improves. I also want to see more games take advantage of what the new consoles have to offer in terms of power and features. Games also need to be mindful of features from older games that get overlooked such as having a button check at the character select screen or being able to switch controller sides before a match starts.
Who should be on next week's GAF Player Spotlight?
Whoever wants to volunteer for it.
Since Dahbomb strongly encourages pre-orders, what games do you plan to buy that have been officially announced?
I typically buy every fighting game that comes out because I like to play everything and come to my own conclusions. Usually people like to tell you that ___ game is ass without even playing it.
Haven’t been able to buy a new console yet since family comes first, but I’ll put a preorder in for SFV once they add a character that I am interested in playing. Whenever Tekken 7 drops, I’ll cop it and play Leo and Paul since I love playing characters with a deathfist. And whenever Namco decides to stop playing and show love to a new Soulcalibur, I’ll be on that too and back to competing.


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Code:
WINTER Rivals of Aether
MARCH  Street Fighter V
TBD    Beast's Fury
TBD    BlazBlue: Central Fiction
TBD    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven
TBD    Next The King Of Fighters Title (tentative)
TBD    Pokken Tournament
TBD    Rising Thunder
TBD    Tekken 7
TBD    Tekken X Street Fighter
TBD    Yatagarasu: Legend of Raven


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On GAF we have various members that stream fighting games from time to time too. If you would like to add your channel to this thread, send me a PM.

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Often, some fighting games can seem intimidating to players new and old. Below are a bunch of resources that may be of aid to new players, or handy as references.
  • Learn How To Play Fighting Games Free eBook from Shoryuken is a fantastic primer for new players to the genre.
  • Footsies Handbook is a guide to the potentially elusive, but integral part of doing well in any fighting game.
  • NeoGAF's Arcade Stick Thread is the place to go for questions about anything arcade stick-related.
  • Step Up Your Game is an editorial series by Justin Wong that covers a multitude of topics, notably focusing on strengthening your mental game and playing smarter instead of harder.
  • Tips for first time competitors will help you straighten out those nerves and expectations when you head out to your first tournament.
  • Domination 101 is almost a cult classic article in the FGC, which has Seth Killian telling us how he really feels about the idea of "cheapness" in fighting games.
  • Team-building Guide by our very own Karsticles, which helps make it easier to approach team-building in MvC games, and games with similar synergistic elements.

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If you have any suggestions for the OP, please do not hesitate to post in this thread or (preferably) PM me to let me know.
 
Aside from the disheartening bullshit regarding Neo's bag, this was another great Evo and my first hanging with gaf!

Highlights for me:
-SF pools
-Wario wafts
-KI top 8
-Premature popoff
-KBR and the new age of Marvel
-Blanka's cooler cousin reveal
-Infiltration vs Gamerbee

An Evo of feels man
 
8 fatalities were performed in the MKX top 8. All but one were performed by Sonic Fox.

I still need the full list of crying players in all the top 8. Right now I got Chou, Ao and KBR.

Need confirmation on Hungrybox, Apologyman and KnuckleDu.


And finally I need to confirm game with lowest viewers in a top 8. It's most likely Persona 4 from what I am hearing but I want to be sure on it.


Rest of the results ended up like this:

1) How many US players will be in the top 8 of Persona 4, Tekken 7 and GGXrd combined?

2 US players made it in those 3 games combined. Zidane in GGXrd and Mr Naps in Tekken 7.


2) How many US players will be in the top 8 of USF4?

2 US players made it and they were KnuckleDu and PR Balrog.


3) How many “gods” will be in the top 8 of UMVC3 (gods are Justin Wong, FChamp, ChrisG)?

There were none! And one of the biggest stories to come out of EVO this year, the 3 favorites going into the tournament didn’t even make top 8!


4) How many players will cry on stage (whether tears of joys or tears of sadness)?

Still working this out but at least 3 did (Chou, Ao and KBR).


5) Will Ono appear in a cosplay? If so then which character? (getting the 2nd question right will award you bonus points)?

Yes, he cosplayed as the new character teased last time who was Necalli!


6) How many different characters will we see in the top 8 of USF4 (counter picks included)?

Lots of counter picks:
Guile, Decapre, Elena, Chun Li, Juri, Rolento, Balrog, Akuma, Evil Ryu, Abel, Adon, Ken.

12 unique characters total!


7) How many different characters will we see in the top 8 of UMVC3 (counter picks included)?

Doom, Magneto, Vergil, Zero, Morrigan, MODOK, Captain America, Sentinel, Firebrand, Super Skrull, Hulk, Haggar, Phoenix, Dr Strange, Dante.

About the average seen from previous years, which is 15.


8) How many different characters will we see in the top 8 of both the Smash games combined (counter picks included)? [Same characters from the two different games count as different characters so if there's a Fox in a Smash 4 top 8 and a Fox in Melee top 8, that counts as two separate characters as they are different games] See this post for a better explanation.

10 different characters for Smash 4: Ness, Pikachu, Rosalina & Luma, Olimar, Mario, Wario, Marth, Sheik, Zero Suit Samus, Diddy Kong.
8 different characters in Smash Melee: Pikachi, Fox, Falco, Marth, Jigglypuff, Ice Climbers, Samus, Sheik

Total of 18 characters across both games.

While Peach is a mainstay for Armada, he did not in fact use it in the top 8 of Smash Melee.


9) How many fatalities will we see in the top 8 of MKX?

8 fatalities were performed, only 1 of them wasn't by SonicFox!


10) Will Tekken x SF be at EVO? If yes then name two characters that they will unveil at the event (getting the 2nd question right will award you bonus points).

No Tekken X SF at EVO!


11) Which game will have the highest stream numbers at EVO in a top 8? Bonus question: Which game will have the lowest stream numbers in a top 8? (cannot specify same game for both in order to increase your changes to get at least one right)

USF4 had the highest stream numbers at 226K.

Persona 4 most likely had the lowest.


12) How many players will appear in more than one top 8 at EVO?

No player appeared in more than one top 8!


13) How many grand final bracket resets will there be at EVO?

There were 4 bracket resets: USF4, MKX, Killer Instinct and Tekken 7.


14) Will there be more Season 1 or Season 2 characters in Killer Instinct top 8? Bonus question: By how much?

Season 1 characters: Sadira, Orchid, Thunder, Glacius, Fulgore, Sabrewulf, Spinal
Season 2 characters: Cinder, Omen, Kan-Ra, Hisako, Maya

Season 1 had more characters by 2.


15) How many different countries will be represented in the top 8 of USF4?
4 countries were represented: Japan, Singapore, South Korea and USA.


16) Which game will have the longest top 8 runtime? Bonus question: Which game will have the shortest run time in top 8? (Cannot specify same game for both in order to increase your chances to get at least one right)

USF4 had the longest runtime, MKX had the shortest runtime.

Persona 4: 1 hour 56 minutes
Smash 4: 2 hours 2 minutes
Killer Instinct: 1 hour 52 minutes
Tekken 7: 2 hours 52 minutes
GGXrd: 1 hour 42 minutes
MKX: 1 hour 30 minutes
Smash Melee: 2 hours 7 minutes
UMVC3: 2 hours 7 minutes
USF4: 2 hour 56 minutes


17) Will any player make a repeat win at this year’s EVO from last year?

No player made a repeat win!


18) Will there be a brand new fighting game announcement at EVO? Bonus question: If so then what will it be?

Yes there was! Rising Thunder presented by the Cannon brothers was revealed at EVO! Alpha started end of July!


19) At what time will EVO finish at (rounded to the nearest hour) on the final day?

EVO finished around 10 PM Pacific time.


20) FINAL QUESTION: Who will win EVO for each individual game?
USF4: Momochi
UMVC3: Kaneblueriver
Melee: Armada
MKX: Sonicfox
Killer Instinct: Rico
Guilty Gear Xrd: Ogawa
Persona 4: Chou
Smash 4: Zero
Tekken 7: Nobi
 
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Aside from the disheartening bullshit regarding Neo's bag, this was another great Evo and my first hanging with gaf!

Highlights for me:
-SF pools
-Wario wafts
-KI top 8
-Premature popoff
-KBR and the new age of Marvel
-Blanka's cooler cousin reveal
-Infiltration vs Gamerbee

An Evo of feels man

i forgot this happend LOOOOL https://youtu.be/NLeE5qPuXgM

edit: also, hi5 enzo
 
I realized that the people who whined in 2011 were vindicated today.
Both teams for Marvel GF had Sentinel.

not only that, but it came down to a sentinel mirror match at least twice lol

sentinel mirror matches in grand finals of marvel 3 in the year 2015
 
Hope they find whoever stole Neo's money.

The whole deal with Woshige winning the crowd's hearts after the pop off was my favorite thing.

Fantastic evo this year, lots of great moments, funny shenanigans, great comebacks.
 
not only that, but it came down to a sentinel mirror match at least twice lol

sentinel mirror matches in grand finals of marvel 3 in the year 2015
If Marvel 3 gets played at EVO for a few more years then people are going to look back at this year's EVO and be like "WTF happened there?"
 
Ai AI and Infiltration got me hype.
Still not hype enough to do otherverse
I knew Juri was worth it, but I seriously doubt my region will be any help with her.
 
Tekken 7: 2 hours 52 minutes
Smash Melee: 2 hours 7 minutes
UMVC3: 2 hours 7 minutes
USF4: 2 hour 56 minutes

but melee top 8 is soooooooo long they said


fuck all yall. even with all that hbox camping shit it came out to the same time as marvel.
 
If Marvel 3 gets played at EVO for a few more years then people are going to look back at this year's EVO and be like "WTF happened there?"
"Lol no Chun mirrors in Top 8? Who would have guessed? Man tech was different back then."
 
but melee top 8 is soooooooo long they said


fuck all yall. even with all that hbox camping shit it came out to the same time as marvel.
Breh it's not about the length it's about the quality.

Ain't no one complaining about USF4 running way too long.
 
but melee top 8 is soooooooo long they said


fuck all yall. even with all that hbox camping shit it came out to the same time as marvel.

well, I could see where they were coming from. I personally, got peeved at the frutsy vs kane match delay and I was hoping ray wasn't going to reset.
 
It's pretty much an impossibility that UMVC3 doesn't make it into EVO next year although this was definitely the last year it will be at that 2nd last spot (or is it? Mr Wizard plz).

USA has to defend that turf and re-establish dominance. Mr Wizard isn't going to let USA ride dirty like that.


The question is really whether they will have both SF games on Sunday next year. Can't wait for Mr Wiz excuses then.

One thing is for sure... EVO needs to do a lot of restructuring if they can accommodate the growth.
 
The new SFV character will be playable in the beta, right?
Does anyone has info of his moves, playstyle or story?
 
Ai AI and Infiltration got me hype.
Still not hype enough to do otherverse
I knew Juri was worth it, but I seriously doubt my region will be any help with her.
Infiltration bringing out juri had me completely awestruck. I thought Ai Ai was the last time we'd see her in top 8.
 
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