Nicki Minaj and Taylor Swift have BAD BLOOD on Twitter

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I can sort of empathize with Nicki. Anaconda was just an excuse to film a music video, really.

Imagine all of those months of planning not being appreciated.

"So what are we going to do"
"Shake our asses"
"Right, and the song's about?"
"Shaking our asses"
"Ok"

Tragic.
 
Rembrandt said:
What is your first post even saying? 99% of signed artist don't own the rights to their music. They cannot get paid directly from the streams on any service. Tidal launched with a campaign letting people know that their service will pay the artists more, through the labels of course BUT SO IS EVERY STREAMING SERVICE, so with artists complaining about the low payout, they pushed that angle. There is literally nothing wrong with letting people know that their service will be more beneficial to those that make the music we basically consume for free.
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Which is totally fine. Unfortunately, a lot of people see this as rich people wanting more money. These aren't starving artists--it was Madonna, Jay Z, Daft Punk, etc. It's the perception of wanting more money. That was their angle: we want more money for our music. It's a noble cause but when you already make a lot and you want more you're probably not going to get sympathy from those who make $15 an hour. It's a marketing failure.

Rembrandt said:
Apple is going to Apple because they have an insanely loyal fanbase that probably would have subscribed to their service if it was worse than everything and more expensive, that's just the way it is. For somebody that doesn't have the market share they do, they have to take the angles they get. It's fucking stupid to shame a company because they're pointing out that they're actually helping artists.
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They weren't helping artists, they were helping themselves. It's why their whole introduction and following PR was about them. Sure, they would sprinkle in some, "the unsigned artists will make more" but that wasn't their focus it was them, and every one saw that.

Rembrandt said:
Is Apple Music not the rich getting richer? Was Taylor Swift removing her music from Spotify because of the low payouts and then going to Apple Music not the rich getting richer? I don't understand where this claim came from besides the fact that there's no free service (which makes sense if they're paying more).
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Apple Music is the rich getting richer, they just know how to actually market things properly. If Tim Cooks tried to get sympathy from people by saying he wanted more money (and for unsigned artists) he would get laughed at. It's a failure to market your product well and that bit them in the ass. Tidal will forever be linked to the rich wanting to get richer.

Maybe next time the owners won't make the same mistake.
 
Kinyou said:
I think it's actually about race

...or Tidal, I'm not quite sure
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Bringing tidal into this made it that much more hilarious.
She is deluded if she thinks that is the reason Tidal failed.
 
Alienous said:
I can sort of empathize with Nicki. Anaconda was just an excuse to film a music video, really.

Imagine all of those months of planning not being appreciated.

"So what are we going to do"
"Shake our asses"
"Right, and the song's about?"
"Shaking our asses"
"Ok"

Tragic.
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Goddamn media, why won't you recognize her genius!?
 
AHA-Lambda said:
Or... you don't need to be a total asshat and maybe inform me who they are?
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The woman is Iggy Azalea, an Australian rapper who has been criticized for borrowing from black culture. The guy is some nobody who somehow got himself invited/snuck into Katy Perry's birthday party and decided to use that opportunity to paint a swastika on himself and trick celebrities into taking pictures with him. Truly a Rhodes Scholar.
 
botty said:
Who cares about who Nicki Minaj or Taylor Swift are. Let me introduce you to this amazing thing called a search engine!
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And how the hell am I supposed to google people I don't recognise??

Oozer3993 said:
The woman is Iggy Azalea, an Australian rapper who has been criticized for borrowing from black culture.. The guy is some nobody who somehow got himself invited/snuck into Katy Perry's birthday party and decided to use that opportunity to paint a swastika on himself and trick celebrities into taking pictures with him. Truly a Rhodes Scholar.
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Thank you!
Christ, it wasn't a hard question.

Supermanisdead said:
if only they had names you could imput in some kind of textbox
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Did you miss the part where I said i don't know who they were?

I knew there was a reason I avoided Popgaf >_>
 
@Botty and Toejam.

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Subpar Spatula said:
Which is totally fine. Unfortunately, a lot of people see this as rich people wanting more money. These aren't starving artists--it was Madonna, Jay Z, Daft Punk, etc. It's the perception of wanting more money. That was their angle: we want more money for our music. It's a noble cause but when you already make a lot and you want more you're probably not going to get sympathy from those who make $15 an hour. It's a marketing failure.


They weren't helping artists, they were helping themselves. It's why their whole introduction and following PR was about them. Sure, they would sprinkle in some, "the unsigned artists will make more" but that wasn't their focus it was them, and every one saw that.


Apple Music is the rich getting richer, they just know how to actually market things properly. If Tim Cooks tried to get sympathy from people by saying he wanted more money (and for unsigned artists) he would get laughed at. It's a failure to market your product well and that bit them in the ass. Tidal will forever be linked to the rich wanting to get richer.

Maybe next time the owners won't make the same mistake.
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So it's bad for them to want to get paid more for their work aka adapt to a situation because they're already rich? and if they're helping themselves, they're helping other artists since the people on stage weren't the only people with their music on the service and of course they're not going to focus on indie artists the entire time, but they made it known that indie artists will benefit for being on the service. Along with the big artists, but that was probably to get more artists to drop exclusive releases like Lil Wayne just did.

Of course because Tim Cook isn't in an industry that is hurt because people are getting his stuff for free or anything. Completely different. These are musicians pushing a music service that will get them paid more because their current industry is being hurt by the low payouts by streaming service. Tim Cook isn't a musician. That's a big difference.
 
Glass Joe said:
What keywords would you suggest? I'm frankly quite curious how the heck you're supposed to simply "google" to find out who Taylor Swift was standing with in the random photo being asked about.
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You could actually do a reverse image search with Google.
But that does not always work.
 
Whenever I see Twitter beef like this it makes me think it's just for publicity. When they could easily DM each other

Anyway I like Swifties music but the persona she puts on just comes off as super fake to me and kinda puts me off of her
 
Rembrandt said:
Madonna doesn't matter. The fact is that the media worked hard to fuck Tidal because, to my knowledge, it has higher payouts and has less label involvement than Spotify. People applauded Taylor for taking a stance, but people were coming up with 1001 reasons why Tidal should fail though it's better for artists than Spotify or Pandora.

It's because it's owned by a black man.
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Shirley, you can't be serious.

Tidal was panned because:
- $20 was expensive for the high quality music they were trying to sell.
- It was sold by rich and popular artists, instead of actual indies.

Majority of normal people have no idea who owns the service. Actually, the majority of people don't even know about the service period because it was a marketing disaster. Race is the least of its problems.
 
SteveWinwood said:
14 minutes ago

NICKI MINAJ ‏@NICKIMINAJ

I'm so glad u guys get to see how this stuff works. Taylor took her music off spotify and was applauded. We launched Tidal & were dragged.

PREACH
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Preach nothing. I would have been right there to support Tidal if it made sense. That ridiculous launch event mixed with offering nothing I couldn't get elsewhere (in some cases cheaper before they restructured their prices) is what made me light on TIDAL. I wasn't hating on my own culture or any shit like that. I dont like the way people are trying to hide Tidals failures behind some racial agenda. It had plenty problems of its own making.

And furthermore, plenty of Spotify fanboys had nothing but ill words for Taylor when she ditches Spotify also. /shrug.
 
giga said:
Shirley, you can't be serious.

Tidal was panned because:
- $20 was expensive for the high quality music they were trying to sell.
- It was sold by rich and popular artists, instead of actual indies.

Majority of normal people have no idea who owns the service. Actually, the majority of people don't even know about the service period because it was a marketing disaster. Race is the least of its problems.
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While the things you say are true I can't help but think of Taylor swift or Katy perry also were the face of Tidal the backlash wouldn't be nearly as prevalent
 
Looks like Minaj started this twitter salty nonsense and her recent music like "Anaconda" is trash. Nicki is just promoting big asses. So I'm gonna side with Swift.
 
blakep267 said:
While the things you say are true I can't help but think of Taylor swift or Katy perry also were the face of Tidal the backlash wouldn't be nearly as prevalent
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These were the owners introduced on stage at Tidal's unveiling: Alicia Keys, Arcade Fire’s Win Butler and Régine Chassagne, Beyoncé, Calvin Harris, Chris Martin, Daft Punk, Deadmau5, J. Cole, Jack White, Jason Aldean, Jay Z, Kanye West, Madonna, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, and Usher.

It's hardly homogenous.
 
giga said:
These were the owners introduced on stage at Tidal's unveiling: Alicia Keys, Arcade Fire’s Win Butler and Régine Chassagne, Beyoncé, Calvin Harris, Chris Martin, Daft Punk, Deadmau5, J. Cole, Jack White, Jason Aldean, Jay Z, Kanye West, Madonna, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, and Usher.

It's hardly homogenous.
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Come on. This was Jay z's thing from the start. He's the one who bought the company
 
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