Rise of the Tomb Raider coming to PC Early 2016. PS4 Holiday 2016

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So....is the PC version going to have the 'added' bells and whistles that the devs said the PS4 version would get, then?

That's silly. GTAV released on PC over a year after consoles and it still sold a shit ton.

PS4 version will sell fine I'm sure.

Tomb Raider's plenty big, but it ain't anywhere near as big as GTA.
 
im confident the xbone version will sell at least decently. The install base will be much larger than it was last year and mS will market the hell out of as well as do some friendly bundles.uhh, what

Yeah, SE doesn't really like money anyway.

No not really.

SE dropped the ball with this game thus far but I am glad its still coming.

What's so shocking about this? I doubt this does enough sales to justify it's existence. How many PS4 owners just have a PS4?
That's silly. GTAV released on PC over a year after consoles and it still sold a shit ton.

PS4 version will sell fine I'm sure.
That's because PC players got the best version of the game. What's PS4 going to get? Slightly upressed Xbox One port? The best version will be out already.
 
depending how early, I might wait for the PC version. Usually fairly quiet in February compared to the busy holiday season.
 
Damn I just got back from twitter. People who previously touted and hyped Square Enix turning on them with venom when they type. Shit is real out there lol
 
I don't know either and a game doesn't have to get a GOTY award to get a Complete Edition but it wouldn't put it past Square-Enix to have DLC and an eventual Complete Edition 1 year after release so if us PS4 players do end up paying $60 in 1 year at least we will have extra content to play.

If it's going to release in GOTY form next year on PS4, then it'd almost certainly have an equivalent XB1 GOTY version around the same time. It's hardly a benefit, you just don't get to option to buy the non-GOTY version earlier, like you'd get to do with all the others games that see a GOTY edition later.
 
Ehh their E3 showing and the gameplay after was not so great.

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Good, a major gripe I had with Microsoft was their 'we care about pc gaming, but we'll take this franchise that's always been on pc away from you' hypocriticalness with tomb raider.
 
I was wondering why it couldn't release on PS4 in early 2016, but maybe they don't want to compete with uncharted? I think I'll pick this up for PC when I upgrade my gpu next year
 
Tomb Raider is at ~3.25 million copies on Steam currently, so they presumably didn't want to hold that up too long.

also MS wanting to push Windows 10 and SE clearly saying 'windows 10' in the PR probably helps get an earlier release negotiated.
 
I mean the xbox division doesn't have infinite cash so Phil has to make some choices regarding what titles he is going to fund, partner etc. So there are trade offs. Obviously he thought this one was worth it. Phantom Dust on the other hand needed just a couple more million according to the devs but MS instead cancelled it because apparently it was not worth it for them (example of budget not being infinite).

This of course doesn't mean that if MS hadnt secured this deal that Phantom Dust would be alive and kicking. MS most likely would have used that money somewhere else that looked more profitable for them.

Phantom Dust hasn't been cancelled, they've been pretty clear about that. You just said they don't have infinite cash, so if a project is going off course or not where they want it to they aren't just going to throw money at it.

They lost marketing on COD which I can't imagine is cheap to have on a yearly basis and they don't have marketing deals on most of the big titles, this year anyway: Assassins Creed, Call of Duty, Destiny, Star Wars, Metal Gear Solid V, Batman Arkham Knight and more (other stuff like GTA and Watch Dogs too), they have a nice Fallout 4 deal and the same with The Division early next but generally most of the other stuff is with Sony, more likely that they took the money from there than first party development which they are investing in.
 
Nope I am talking about gameplay.

I dont know guess its mostly the bear fight.

Oh OK. I thought the gameplay looked fine, if not revolutionary. Pretty similar to the first game, which I enjoyed. Just hope theres less mediocre set pieces, TR is at its worst when it tries to imitate Uncharted and at its best when it focuses on things like exploration, hunting etc
 
I think he's speaking about the visuals, not the gameplay

For a next gen only game in 2015, it looks underwhelming compared to some other games

I found the whole package (i.e what they showed) very underwhelming, especially in comparison to what Naughty Dog showed with Uncharted 4.
 
Holiday 2016 is always good for the ol' gaming budget, but sad for my heart. Enjoy, XB1/PCers! I'm looking forward to reading everyone's impressions.
 
And by then PS4 owners will be over it. I mean I understand on one hand why they do stuff like this, but on the other it doesn't seem like the best strategy to sell copies on the system getting it much later. It will sell copies of course, but not nearly as much as it would have initially, I don't think.
 
That's silly. GTAV released on PC over a year after consoles and it still sold a shit ton.

PS4 version will sell fine I'm sure.

Tomb Raider ain't no GTA, though. GTA V's still charting on NPD and it's been 2 years since it released and 1 year since it was brought to the PS4 and XBO. The game (and series in general) has serious legs that Tomb Raider just doesn't have.
 
Yea i dunno. That demo on stage was too scripted, if you look at u4 all set pieces are based on gameplay and this beeng cross gen game it limits them on technical level.
Hated story and Lara in reboot. Ohh well...

The E3 conference footage was an awful, awful choice. The on-floor gameplay looked much better.
 
And by then PS4 owners will be over it. I mean I understand on one hand why they do stuff like this, but on the other it doesn't seem like the best strategy to sell copies on the system getting it much later. It will sell copies of course, but not nearly as much as it would have initially, I don't think.

I dunno, I think a lot of people will be in the same camp as me. I enjoyed TRDE but its not a franchise I need to play day 1. There's a ton of games coming out this holiday that I'll be busy with like Fallout, and 2016 is shaping up nicely too. I think I'll completely forget about TR until next holiday and by then it'll just be a pleasant surprise when it hits PS4. I'll happily play it there if it turns out to be good
 
I'm thinking I may pass on the Xbox one version of this game and pick it up on PC in 2016. There should be plenty of other games for me to worry about this fall.
 
i was only half wrong about my view on this exclusivity!!!
i kept saying that the way MS kept stressing "exclusive holiday 2015" kinda hinted to me that the game would come out on ps4 and pc in early 2016. i did not expect it to be split like with ps4 being fall 2016. that is a pretty good exclusivity window for ms. hope square took a big cheque because that is a lot of sales and buzz they are giving up on. i am sure MS will bundle it like ac unity so the sales could look good in the end.
 
Wow, one whole year, that's longer than I was expecting!

As for the E3 showing, I thought the snow level they showed being played was a little weak, but everything after that looked pretty damn awesome, breaking through that dusty brick wall and the light peaking through, Lara's glow stick attached to her hip, the underwater parts all looked super impressive compared to the snow demo.
 
Yoo! Dat enthusiasm for a new Japanese IP!

Japanese IP? It's being developed in Texas.

Anyway, I'm not surprised they announced this before the Xbone came out but I am surprised it's 1 year. Doesn't really matter to me though, I'm not a fan of what they've turned TR into and have Uncharted 4 for my Uncharted fix, so I probably wasn't buying this anyway.
 
A few months sure, but a year? I guess they'll just release a GOTY edition for all platforms at the same time.
 
I think its rather presumptuous to think may or may not have spent this. And as we went over earlier in the thread, Microsoft don't lack new IPs, they have a lot of them coming.

I can't really imagine they did this deal and cancelled something else or refused to fund something else in the process.

There's clearly not funding every deal they come across. It's a deal that Square-Enix was willing to make because that allows them to dodge U4. It's a calculated move.

I never got into the TR games much. I played Underworld on the PS3 and it was a bugfest. Game breaking bugs too. I bought the last one for $20 and I also have it on PS+, but I haven't played it yet. I can certainly wait 2 or 3 years.
 
I don't like timed exclusivity in general, but the nature of whatever deal is made is what really makes or breaks my opinion of it (for what little it's worth). It's hard to get a complete picture of the exact nature of the deals since they are secretive, and I'm not sure I have enough info often to determine how they go down.

If a game legitimately requires assistance to be made, then go for it and have your timed/permanent exclusivity. I have no problem with this, as it is a net gain to gaming to produce something that wouldn't have existed otherwise without the help.

If on the other hand the game was already being made, and a company (ANY company) simply pays to restrict other access to it, then I think everyone loses. The company that paid money to deny others access could have used that money to fund, partially or completely, a new product. People who already would have had the game get less in the end.

I worry that this case is more likely the latter than the former based on what I've seen. I'm not really a fan of Tomb Raider, it doesn't really affect me personally (never actually finished DE). But if that IS what happened, I really don't like that it did.

And if indications come out that that's what Sony did with SF V, or what they did with FF VIIR, I'll hate that too. Paying huge money to restrict other people's access instead of to create is not what this hobby should be about, despite it being a business.
 
I think he's speaking about the visuals, not the gameplay

For a next gen only game in 2015, it looks underwhelming compared to some other games

Well he isn't lying. It looked absolutely underwhelming.

What a good thing amazing, mind-blowing graphics don't make a good game.

Or are people deliberately trying to forget about the order?

I still don't understand why anyone should care about this game after the first one.

Perhaps because it was a great game? And sold really well.
 
And if indications come out that that's what Sony did with SF V, or what they did with FF VIIR, I'll hate that too. Paying huge money to restrict other people's access instead of to create is not what this hobby should be about, despite it being a business.

In this thread at least for Street Fighter V, it was done mostly for cross platform play which from previous examples Xbox will not allow with the PS.
 
I wonder if early 2016 was also the original release plan for the PS4 version and not just PC.
But then after the gamescom announcement mess MS may have felt the need to secure more exclusive months. Also, that's exactly the spot when Uncharted 4 will hit so it was probably not to hard to convince SE to further delay the PS4 version.

I'm kinda surprised SE announced this already now. MS made a big deal in their E3 event to show TR as one of their main exclusives along first party titles, obscuring the nature of the exclusivity deal once again and apparently fooling again some people that it's more than just a time-exclusive release (or that it would at least take longer than just a year).

Oh and I predict that the PS4 (GOTY w/ all DLC as that will be demanded by Sony) version will outsell the combined Xbox platform release.
 
Awful scheduling. Why would they want to squeeze into an already packed season? I think it would do fine in the non-crowded months like July-Sept.
 
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