Lionheart1827
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Yeah, just move on man. There will be plenty of more girls in the future as long as you believe in and apply yourself.
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Yeah, just move on man. There will be plenty of more girls in the future as long as you believe in and apply yourself.
ASK
HER
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I don't care how much you two have/haven't been texting. She's going to lost interest really soon, if she hasn't already.
It doesn't matter how long she takes to reply, just ask her out right now and get it over with. She might take a while to reply, she might never reply, but then you can do it and get it over with already.
Yeah, time to move on. Sorry bro
Advocatus Diaboli
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This is always the right answer.
@Gray Matter: You are paralyzed because of the metagame - texting, responses, the speed involved. You're crafting this fantasy inside your head. "She's ignoring me." "No, she's too busy. She's gotta be working." "What kind of text do I need to send?"
Everyone sucks at this. Besides, you don't want a texting buddy. So why are you investing so much into the texting angle. How long were you planning on continuing the back and forth texting banter?
"Would love to take you out. Drinks on Thursday?"
Then, be done with it.
stn
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@Gray Matter
I didn't realize you're already texting. If she's responding very slowly then you've probably already fallen into what I like to call the Textzone. Ask her out, man. Get it over with. My hunch is that the slow texting is a result of lack of interest, but at this point you need to get it over with. Just do it. Let us know what she says.
I didn't realize you're already texting. If she's responding very slowly then you've probably already fallen into what I like to call the Textzone. Ask her out, man. Get it over with. My hunch is that the slow texting is a result of lack of interest, but at this point you need to get it over with. Just do it. Let us know what she says.
ZackieChan
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Haha, after two long-ass posts I don't think you do
But between you and Grey Matter, you guys really should be working more than one angle at a time. Putting all your effort into this single girl is only going to lead to crushing disappointment if things don't go well.
In GM's case, if this girl doesn't want to go out with you, then what? You're back at square one and depressed and alone.
If you are messaging with multiple ladies, you won't get so worked up if one isn't texting you back.
Then again, I remember one super depressing night where I was reaching out to like 8 girls and none was responding. It's not a perfect system but it's better odds than with talking to just one
Johnny Cage In The Shower
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Then again, I remember one super depressing night where I was reaching out to like 8 girls and none was responding. It's not a perfect system but it's better odds than with talking to just one
I can't imagine the crushing feeling after being shut down by 8 girls in one night.
You're also forgetting the average busy guy with a job, has no time to play 8 girls on his phone, as much as I'd love to have 8 ladies on the go, I don't even have the energy or the time to juggle two. this shit isn't easy with one sometimes.
I do believe though having a thick skin and curbing your emotions for ... God knows how long, works, I am working on that. I think the only thing that could work for me now is be a prude robot for the first five dates, then maybe show some affection on the sixth date, let's see if that will work. God knows the opposite isn't working.
NipplesAndToes23
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Are you friends with Sub-Zero at a Starbucks, Johnny?
Johnny Cage in the Shower
Sub-Zero at a Starbucks
Baraka in the White House
Liu Kang Baking a Pie
Kano on the Phone
I think it's just a thing.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Alright, I'll share this and I will move on.
Remember that girl I had a crush on at work? Well, I had to research her before making any contact with her.(Basically, asking around the work place I was in) Reason was because I wasn't sure about her and I didn't want to waste my time. I even told her that...Yeah, my cousin said I might have been a creepier. Plus, I pretty much had to flag her down to get her attention and stuff. I'm sorry guys for not being clear.
Remember that girl I had a crush on at work? Well, I had to research her before making any contact with her.(Basically, asking around the work place I was in) Reason was because I wasn't sure about her and I didn't want to waste my time. I even told her that...Yeah, my cousin said I might have been a creepier. Plus, I pretty much had to flag her down to get her attention and stuff. I'm sorry guys for not being clear.
ZackieChan
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You would be spending less time talking with 8 girls than you do talking to this one. That's my point. Save the communication for when you're actually out with them, at least until you decide to commit to one.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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I've been dating this woman for a little over a month now. We've been friendly before this and after my last breakup I decided to ask her out to a movie. She accepted and we went. That was a good time, the movie wasn't, but whatever, it ended on a hug in my car and we went out separate ways. I reached out to her a week later to see if she wanted to go out to dinner. She said yes and we ended up going into the city via public transportation. That's when sparks began to fly over dinner and we were laughing at each other, she was being touchy etc. After the trip back home and as we returned to the parking lot and our cars I kissed her, 3 kisses for each glass of liquor we had. Everything was still cool and things were still fun.
This past Saturday she was house sitting for a friend of ours and that afternoon called me to find out what my dinner plans where. I didn't have any so I said I could come by. Luckily I was only 15 minutes away from where she was house sitting because I was in the nearby city. We had a quick dinner at a fast food place and had a proper french kiss in the car after leaving there.
I ended up keeping her company that evening, more french kissing and more french kissing, but nothing past that. She called it a night and I said I should get going. I'm not about to have sex with her in a "friends" house if you get what I'm saying...
On Sunday, she didn't respond to my 2 texts or the phone call wishing a happy pool day.
On Monday morning I reached out to her and she said she was having a low tech Sunday. I told her that was respectable. After work, I reached out to her again and said if she wanted to see Trainwreck, a movie she had told me she's interested in. She said she couldn't because of late night work obligations on Tuesday and Wednesday. (These are legit excuses, not lies of any sorts) Thursday, tonight would have been open if not for prep before a family trip to Tahoe, so that was out of the question understandably.
We do plan on talking on the phone tonight at some point.
With all that's happened since Saturday night, her texts have become shorter and less frequent. I can tell her attitude has completely changed and I'm worried that we moved too quickly in a sense and she's wants to end it.
I guess I'll find out in a few hours. If this goes south, it's going to be awkward moving forward.
Edit:
I should mention that my intention with the phone call isn't to call her out on anything, just to see how her week has gone and how's she doing. Where the conversation takes us is pretty much up to her.
This past Saturday she was house sitting for a friend of ours and that afternoon called me to find out what my dinner plans where. I didn't have any so I said I could come by. Luckily I was only 15 minutes away from where she was house sitting because I was in the nearby city. We had a quick dinner at a fast food place and had a proper french kiss in the car after leaving there.
I ended up keeping her company that evening, more french kissing and more french kissing, but nothing past that. She called it a night and I said I should get going. I'm not about to have sex with her in a "friends" house if you get what I'm saying...
On Sunday, she didn't respond to my 2 texts or the phone call wishing a happy pool day.
On Monday morning I reached out to her and she said she was having a low tech Sunday. I told her that was respectable. After work, I reached out to her again and said if she wanted to see Trainwreck, a movie she had told me she's interested in. She said she couldn't because of late night work obligations on Tuesday and Wednesday. (These are legit excuses, not lies of any sorts) Thursday, tonight would have been open if not for prep before a family trip to Tahoe, so that was out of the question understandably.
We do plan on talking on the phone tonight at some point.
With all that's happened since Saturday night, her texts have become shorter and less frequent. I can tell her attitude has completely changed and I'm worried that we moved too quickly in a sense and she's wants to end it.
I guess I'll find out in a few hours. If this goes south, it's going to be awkward moving forward.
Edit:
I should mention that my intention with the phone call isn't to call her out on anything, just to see how her week has gone and how's she doing. Where the conversation takes us is pretty much up to her.
Johnny Cage In The Shower
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Yup it's over.
confirmed
Gray Matter
Member
I went to see if she was working today, but she wasn't there today. A little bummed because I really wanted to see her again.
Been loosely fallowing your saga but it's good to see that you finally closed that book and can move on. Plus you did say that you have several silver linings on your horizon so go have fun in Seattle.
Well you did say that she works two jobs so that's probably why or she had the day off . But more importantly, the million dollar question is did you finally ask her out via text for the love of all that is GAF?
Gray Matter
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I texted something in the lines that she wasn't there and I wanted to see her, but no, I haven't asked her out. That was going to be my next text, but she hasn't replied to my previous one yet.
Advocatus Diaboli
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You keep disregarding the advice you're being given. Why? Why would you say something like "I went to your workplace, sorry you weren't there!"?
Just ask her out. Period. Are you stringing yourself along so that you don't receive a definitive "no," maybe?
LucidMomentum
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Just popping in to say I really hate being ghosted.
When it's tough enough to work up the cajones to ask a girl out, getting no response is worse than a flat out no.
Good advice in this thread though, so I'll continue to lurk as I did before I was granted posting permissions!
When it's tough enough to work up the cajones to ask a girl out, getting no response is worse than a flat out no.
Good advice in this thread though, so I'll continue to lurk as I did before I was granted posting permissions!
Gray Matter
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Well, it's kinda a running joke between us that I go every Thursdays after I'm done with my weekly bike ride that I do, which is why I said that.
Also, I'm not ignoring the advice, I just think that up and asking her out up front like that isn't going to do much help, especially when it takes her forever to reply.
shanafan
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But what your currently doing isn't working at all. So, if what is happening now isn't working, then seems like a change needs to happen right?
She doesn't want a texting buddy apparently. She would not have given you her number for that. She gave you her number because she knew you will ask her out. But, you haven't. She probably feels ignored at this point because that hasn't happened yet, and she sees you are lacking confidence in doing it.
At this point right now, asking her out is your only option. Period.
Advocatus Diaboli
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I hate to be abrupt about this, but you're completely wrong.
You're not texting buddies with her. You're not friends. Nor do you want to be her texting buddy or friend. She probably already knows that you like her -- girls are smart, you know -- and the longer you're taking, the more you're demonstrating that you lack confidence or that you might not even be interested.
I realize that you want reassurances from her that might hint that she won't say no when you do ask, but -- for the love of whatever gods you believe in -- just ask her.
I agree with this. If you don't ask her out within the week, Gray, don't bother. She will, or maybe has, grown bored of you. The chase is exciting but it can cool very quickly.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Phone conversation over. Like I said previously, I wasn't going to bring up our status, but that's where she decided to take the conversation. Now that we've spoken, we're on the same page about where we stand dating wise. My mistake after we parted on Saturday was texting her "Good night sweetie" when I got home. She said she wanted to speak to me in person about that, but there hasn't been a chance this week. That was too much of a comment for her this early on. She said I probably thought we were more serious at that point and she's accurate that I did. Fault me for rushing and not being patient.
And she's not going on that Tahoe trip. She said work and her past few weekends have been too busy, which is totally understandable and again, very true. I'm going to let her be and breath.
I say I feel much better now that we've got it out in the open. Doesn't mean things will be totally normal, but the anxiety is gone from me at least.
And she's not going on that Tahoe trip. She said work and her past few weekends have been too busy, which is totally understandable and again, very true. I'm going to let her be and breath.
I say I feel much better now that we've got it out in the open. Doesn't mean things will be totally normal, but the anxiety is gone from me at least.
Gray Matter
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Fine. It's late now, but I swear I will tmrw. No billshit.
Edit: just found out that she'll be in Seattle next week.
To further emphasize how damn important it is that you ask her you I'm going to say it in English and Spanish so that gets drilled across your head tonight and it pesters you through your dreams:
POR FAVOR INVITALA A SALIR. ¡NO HAGAS MAS EXCUSAS!
PLEASE ASK HER OUT. DON'T MAKE ANY MORE EXCUSES!
SHOOT HER THE TEXT NOW SO THAT SHE SEES IT WHENEVER SHE EVENTUALLY
AND
STOP PROCRASTINATING ON IT MAN!
EDIT: Ask her out any way even if she's going to Seattle for when both of you get back.
shanafan
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Gray Matter
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Ok! I did it. She'll be in Seattle next week but I said that when she gets back we should go out. I officially asked her.
She text you back?
And... I really wanted to use GIF, haha.
Well, I did.
shanafan
Member
Well done! Hoping for the best.
And honesty, if she declines, don't worry about it. You asked a random girl for her number and got it. A lot of people can't even do step one!
eyeball_kid
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As others have said, you're good. It's just a thing with some women. It personally turns me off real quick when a woman calls me that.
Gray Matter
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I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't reply for a few days.
You should definitely choose a place for lunch close to your home, in case there's the chance "to do stuff". Use an excuse like "have to pick up such and such from my house".
Sounds more like playful teasing. There might be a test hidden in it, but ignore it. If you feel there's something going on, start calling her "man". Or echo her "dude" as if it's some inside joke between you two.
She invited you to a place where you two were alone, basically planning the whole thing. All you had to do was to make a move for the sex, or at least not keep kissing. I think she has misunderstood this for you waiting on her to suggest the sex. I mean, she decides the place, she decides when, if she also had to decide what to do she would have felt completely unwanted. Don't you think?
To tell you bluntly, I'm positive that if she suggested to stay the night you would have, friends' house or no friends' house.
All of these excuses are a bunch of BS, she is trying to not say something cruel or dismissive. The only thing you can do here is to reciprocate with a similar offer AND not by asking for another date but simply setting one on your terms. High risk, high reward.
First: tell her that night your head was somewhere else because you got a bunch of texts from your ex.
Then, choose a place, a time, and say you'll be there. If you have your own house, even better.
Don't suggest. Don't ask. Just set a date.
She stays silent: at least you gave it a shot (and you also restored your "reputation" with er).
She replies with any version of "can't that day", "what will we do", "I don't think that's a good idea": you say "that's okay, I understand" and nothing else.
You need to show a take it or leave it attitude but don't say it explicitly, or it will become blackmail and it will make her feel like you think less of her for inviting you.
She says yes: make sure to make a move when she is at your house, and don't be surprised if she stalls sex because now she has to prove that wasn't her intention to begin with.
"Good night sweetie" had nothing to do with it.
Being patient is exactly what got you this result. I mean, you two already had history: I don't understand what stopped you, and I really don't believe it's about the whole "friends' house" thing. If I had to guess, I would say you didn't make a move because you didn't want to assume she wanted to have sex.
My guess is this is still on: she called you right after you broke up, as if she was waiting for you to be available.
Shuggananas
Banned
Just contacted a girl who lived in the same town/went to the same HS as me back then, didn't really know her, didn't really had a crush on her (although I thought/still think she's cute), I just saw her pretty much every day (same bus), and I think she liked me since she came to talk to me one day and I just replied something pretty abrupt and she just left (I know I fucked up and probably missed a shot lol, felt bad about it for a while after but w/e). Thought of her this week so I just added her (she hangs out with a friend's sister)
Added her on facebook two days ago, chatted a bit last night (a few messages really), and I'm not sure how fast I should proceed with this. Either chat a bit more on FB on straight up ask her out for a drink like this week-end or next week/week-end, what do you guys think ?
Can give more details if needed but there's not much to say (we didn't talk during HS, just saw each other pretty often)
Added her on facebook two days ago, chatted a bit last night (a few messages really), and I'm not sure how fast I should proceed with this. Either chat a bit more on FB on straight up ask her out for a drink like this week-end or next week/week-end, what do you guys think ?
Can give more details if needed but there's not much to say (we didn't talk during HS, just saw each other pretty often)
Keep up the conversation, and see if you can sustain it. If you can't, just ask her out, right away. If you can, have fun with the conversation for a while, then I'd say keep building the tension of the situation by asking her out. It doesn't have to be a big deal, just keep it low key by saying something like "Why don't we meet for a coffee, and we can make fun of that quirky janitor", or whatever else fits there. Just don't let it stagnate by the conversation running out on facebook when you two run out of things to reminisce about.
Tsukumo, please stop suggesting unethical things. I don't care about immoral things, like the games you set up, but don't do straight up unethical stuff, like lying. Don't lie to make a situation better. You should never mix an ex in with something new, worse yet lie to mix that ex in. Way too many people have had bad experiences with someone new still being somehow hung up on their ex. I won't argue against the constant games you say people should play, but I will argue against doing it in this piss-poor manner of invoking an ex like this. I know you're trying to create an emotional unstable situation, and a push-pull situation, but this is not OK. Again, I won't say it's wrong to emotionally manipulate, the way you suggest he should, but I am saying it's wrong to invoke an ex. Don't do that.
He's pushed her away. Pushing harder now will only make it worse. This isn't about the sex they didn't have, it's about the entire situation.
This is just a horrible way to relate to sex. You're implying that she's just playing hard to get if she stalls on sex. That's a dangerous idea to plant. You're saying he should stand firm on his initializing sex, because you assume that's what she was planning before. I'm not saying it isn't; I agree that making a move at that point could've been a good thing - but I'm not sure. The entire situation's been moving at a staggered pace, and the two of them seem out of sync. It is just underlined by what happened that night. However, most importantly of all: Do not ever, fucking ever, imply that anyone stalling on sex is doing it for any reason beyond the one that they're actually uncertain about having sex. I'm not saying there aren't girls that do this, but I'm saying that you'd be surprised by the amount of women that have had sex at some point because they've felt forced into it. That comes from shit like this, of guys not standing down because of bullshit reasons like this. You fucking err at the side of caution. Be confident, trust yourself with initializing sex. I do not mind having the balls to start touching up a woman you're making out with, if you feel it's the right thing to do. That's what people should do, if they want to have sex, men and women alike. I don't think there's anything indecent with sliding your hand up her thigh if you feel the moment is right. But don't you dare imply that it's ever not honest if she then stops you and says she's not certain of this is a good idea. If any girl ever says something like that, you stop. You ask her what's up. You do not say "c'mon, girl, you know you want this", like you're saying she would, because she's "just trying to prove that that wasn't her intention". Again, I'm not saying there aren't girls that play that game, I'm just saying that there most certainly are situations like this where the girl is actually not certain. If some girl wants to play that game with me, I'm out. If she isn't, then you'd be doing something horrible by pushing for sex.
So, I've indirectly responded to some of this. It seems like the two of you are out of sync. The house-sitting time was likely an opportunity to advance the situation. Things seemed to be going at a steady pace, so there's no reason to say you've rushed anything. That's in regards to the physical, mind you. Part of the initial phase of dating someone is to escalate the physical parts, but still remaining somewhat aloof to the situation. You need to show that you're not desperately in love with someone the moment you kiss them. You can fancy them a ton, and even be totally taken by someone, even the first time you meet them, but you can't be too lovey-dovey too soon. It's completely legitimate to not feel comfortable having sex in someone else's house, but I'd figure out a way to seem confident about it. If I felt sex could be natural in the setting, but I wasn't comfortable with it being someone else's house, I'd probably say something like "you'd be getting my best moves, just about now, if it weren't for the fact that we're at someone else's house". The reaction from her would've dictated the situation from there. Just don't stall the physical development, and if it is stalled for a reason, like this house-sitting, build the tension.
Tsukumo is convinced all girls play a double game, and that no one's honest. If she says it was about the sweetie comment, then it was. It's probably a nibbling feeling she's had, and she felt that you were overcommitted with saying that. That's why explaining to her that it wasn't meant that way wouldn't change anything. The problem wasn't that you said it, it was that it was what cemented a feeling of you being too enamoured by her. The physical escalation might be just a side to that, where if you did have sex, perhaps she'd be more emotionally invested, and more on par with where you were. It's an important skill to gauge your counterpart's affection and display of such. The fact that you sent two text messages, then called, and then called the next day was probably what had the situation come crumbling down. For some reason, she wasn't really feeling the situation. Given the way you pushed too hard, she backed off. It's the classic hand and shadow I wrote about in the OP.
My suggestion is that you just let this one be, now. By doing that, she might come around after a while. It's no guarantee, but it's kind of the only thing that might work. Pushing harder will only exacerbate the situation. It's kind of already gone too far.
Nastrodamous
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So anyway update the girl I met texted me Tuesday saying she was really busy with work. So I texted her back basically saying j would call her later his week to set something up for next week. Did I play that right?
Also fuck texting.
Also fuck texting.
electricshake
Member
Horrible advice, especially the bolded. Please don't do this.
n64coder
Member
Did she say she was busy in response to you asking about getting together?
Someone who is truly busy and still wants to see you, would offer another option. Sorry Nastrodamous, I'm really busy with work this week but let's set something up for next week. When are you free?
Nastrodamous
Member
I asked her out face to face and she told me she was busy all week but def the week after, then she gave me her number. I just sent her a text wishing her because that's what my friends told me I should I do. Then she responded like a day later saying sorry for responding so late and then my post falls after that.
Edit
Reading over the sequence of events out loud I have come to the conclusion my friends are morons.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
I appreciate the responses. Tsukumo doesn't have the right angle in this in my situation so I won't follow that advice. I'm not going to play a game with her like that. That's not my personality and it wouldn't be fair to her or myself. Septimuis on the other hand has a better read on the situation. Although, I shouldn't have put the line about sex in my post. I don't think that was a possibility or even a truthful consideration. Talk about fast and yeah, that'd be too fast.
Maybe one day, I'll make a thread about this whole thing. It's interesting, not sordid, how we started to talk and go out in the first place. And maybe that's why it's important for us to get back in sync with our expectations and take it slower than I was. Talking about it over the phone, whilst not as good as in person, has helped me a lot at least.
Maybe one day, I'll make a thread about this whole thing. It's interesting, not sordid, how we started to talk and go out in the first place. And maybe that's why it's important for us to get back in sync with our expectations and take it slower than I was. Talking about it over the phone, whilst not as good as in person, has helped me a lot at least.
Kid Kamikaze10
Member
I have a cardinal rule. Had a cardinal rule.
Don't date co-workers, or anyone in your company.
And it's been going pretty well. Despite my office having a bunch of great looking women, it's not a problem.
But the streak is over, a newer employee showed up, and I just can't keep my eyes off of her. I fumble when I talk to her, overthink, all those jitters I thought I had knocked out of my system.
And if I don't screw up, I could easily see myself dating her or more.
Should I stick to the, "don't date anyone from work" rule?
Don't date co-workers, or anyone in your company.
And it's been going pretty well. Despite my office having a bunch of great looking women, it's not a problem.
But the streak is over, a newer employee showed up, and I just can't keep my eyes off of her. I fumble when I talk to her, overthink, all those jitters I thought I had knocked out of my system.
And if I don't screw up, I could easily see myself dating her or more.
Should I stick to the, "don't date anyone from work" rule?
Is this a job you think you'll be making a career out of?
Are you able to separate work life from personal life?
Well, it is fast, but the way your post read was that was her intention with that make out session. The instant that you're making out in her car, and then going back to a place where you two are alone, should have been solid indication of that.
The "too fast" part from her seemed to be she was scared off by the notion of starting a relationship. I'm not convinced if it was the "sweetie" part or the fact you didn't make a move that night which may have gotten to her, probably a combination of the two.
You said you had just broken up and she called you for this night correct? To be that situation sounds like here's a one night thing to help you get over it.
Apologies if this is off base, I glanced over a few posts out of order.
Roberto Larcos
Member
How close (proximity) are you to her at the office? If things were to go forward and go badly, could you avoid interacting with her?
Kid Kamikaze10
Member
I've had it as a career since high school, so yeah (web developer).
And separating work life from personal hasn't been an issue in the past (worked with people I really disliked before without a hitch).
Kid Kamikaze10
Member
Same floor, maybe 30 feet away? So no.
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
Does your company have a formal policy regarding workplace relationships? Does it have an informal policy (i.e., it's something that just "isn't done" there and you'd draw weird looks from co-workers)?
Shuggananas
Banned
I wouldn't go for it unless I'm 100% positive it will go smoothly
which is pretty hard to predict tbh
I've gotten some more reactions to this, so since this is my thread, it's really important that we stop with anything that resembles advice like this. This is advice that can, and I'm not exaggerating here, lead to rape. I've been involved in the pick-up artist scenery, and I know the ideas that float around there. Push-pull is a knonw technique, and I mean, even something as simple as 'negging' is based on a sort of emotional manipulation. Everyone manipulates people's emotion, and I know that in PUA circles, it's sort of what you should do. If you deal with games like that, that's fine by me. I might argue against it, but in this case, I need to be real fucking clear, and set my OP food down, and say:
Never ever think that girls show an uncertainty about having sex for any other reason than the fact that uncertain about having sex
You're taking the games too far if you do, and if you think you're involved with a girl that plays those games with you, then she's taking her games too far. Continue with caution. But no matter what happens, do not ever push for sex, because you think she might just be playing precious. Just to reiterate. There are girls that play that game, but you can never fully discern if, at that moment, it's a game to her, or if she's actually not certain. Many girls will put on a brave face like they're DTF, but they might get shaky once the clothes start to come off. When a girl says she's not certain, in your mind, there can never be any reason besides the fact that she's just not certain. This goes of course for women about men, too, but I'm putting emphasis on this because of way too many stories of rape I've been told or read about. Do not do anything that can ever put someone you're about to have sex with in a remorseful situation afterwards. Shit like this simply will not fly, here. I think it's a dangerous game to be playing with manipulation techniques when it doesn't come down to sex, but don't anyone ever dare to think someone's not being honest if they're not showing you they're 100% into having sex with you.
So stop that.
Haloid1177
Banned
So I asked that cute waitress out, she has a boyfriend, but she still gave me her number and says we should cook together at some point.
Gray Matter
Member
On the advice of some female cousins of mine, they said to just let it go. She isn't responding, for whatever reason it maybe be, wether she's working or genuinely busy and has no time.
Of course I'm a little hesitant on just dropping everything, I want to at least try.
Of course I'm a little hesitant on just dropping everything, I want to at least try.
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