Dynamite Shikoku
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Ghostbusters cast surprises patients at Boston children's hospital!
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The cycnism in this forum is fucking disgusting sometimes.
Look, show me the last chartitable thing you've done , with proof. I'll then give you a pat on the back and I'll shut up.
MrCunningham
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"When there's something strange in the neighborhood... Who you gunna call!?"
Kids: "Min-ions, Min-ions, Min-ions, Min-ions!!!"
Kids: "Min-ions, Min-ions, Min-ions, Min-ions!!!"
The cast is made up of 3 funny people who have been on SNL and Leslie Jones.
Gordon Shumway
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That'd actually be a pretty horribly perfect update..good one.
TheLegendOfMart
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You know people are reaching for things to complain about when they moan about straps on a fucking fictional peice of equipment.
Not that's it's going to change any minds, as I'm getting the sense that context has no place in this thread, but the fact that the movie is shooting in the area is a little bit of a deal. It's on the local news and in the papers. It's known and probably moreso to people/family/friends in the hospital stuck watching the local news or reading the papers. It was probably just a nice, goofy thing. wtf.
Would it mean more if the movie is good and has legs? Not if you're dead.
Would it mean more if the movie is good and has legs? Not if you're dead.
Starlord 84
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I thought it was gonna be He-Man
Morrigan Stark
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I'll bet my savings that if the same thing had happened but with stars from an upcoming Marvel movie and/or the upcoming Star Wars movies, the reactions would be completely different. Holy shit, this thread is disgusting.
But these kids didn't grow up with the original cast, they weren't even born then. So why would you bring that up?
A Link to the Past
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This is "coincidentally" a much more aggressive and critical reaction to what very well may be a PR stunt that I've seen for something like this. If RDJ and Chris Hemsworth went to a children's hospital in costume a year before Age of Ultron came out, and maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect that people wouldn't see it as shifty (or at least, not QUITE as shifty). People are treating this like some diabolical scheme, and frankly, it feels in-line with the disproportionate dislike for the Ghostbusters remake. Were people super angry that Channing Tatum and Jonah Hill were the stars of 21 Jump Street and not Johnny Depp and Dustin Nguyen? Possibly some - it make sense, that was his breakout role - but there wasn't the campaign that Ghostbusters got. People weren't destroying their 21 Jump Street memorabilia. To me, it's just another case of people thinking of Paul Feig as a schemer, and seeing more in this than there actually is (or at the very least, being more willing to see this as something that a lot of their favourite stars do all the time).
Another point though, people know Ghostbusters - you don't have to be familiar with the specific Ghostbusters to say "oh cool!" It's like if they introduced a new Avenger, you'll probably be hyped that literally any member of The Avengers is visiting you when you are sick. Stop being cynics!
EDIT: Another point - if we saw Bill Murray, Dan Akyroyd, Ernie Hudson, and Rick Moranis posing with kids, people would be fucking ecstatic and talking about how awesome it is that they're doing this. They wouldn't point out the whole "who the fuck are these people" since Bill Murray is the closest thing to relevant of any of these actors (by a wide country mile, and even THEN tons of kids aren't going to know who he is), and they wouldn't point out that Ghostbusters is dead. That solidifies to me that all of the naysaying is just people upset that womyns stole their Ghostbusters.
I feel that this post is really messy, so tl;dr Fans of the original Ghostbusters are often super hypocrites and would have loved it if the original cast did it
Another point though, people know Ghostbusters - you don't have to be familiar with the specific Ghostbusters to say "oh cool!" It's like if they introduced a new Avenger, you'll probably be hyped that literally any member of The Avengers is visiting you when you are sick. Stop being cynics!
EDIT: Another point - if we saw Bill Murray, Dan Akyroyd, Ernie Hudson, and Rick Moranis posing with kids, people would be fucking ecstatic and talking about how awesome it is that they're doing this. They wouldn't point out the whole "who the fuck are these people" since Bill Murray is the closest thing to relevant of any of these actors (by a wide country mile, and even THEN tons of kids aren't going to know who he is), and they wouldn't point out that Ghostbusters is dead. That solidifies to me that all of the naysaying is just people upset that womyns stole their Ghostbusters.
I feel that this post is really messy, so tl;dr Fans of the original Ghostbusters are often super hypocrites and would have loved it if the original cast did it
SiegfriedFM
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I specifically remember a recent thread where RDJ was visiting some kid to bring him an Iron Man styled prosthetic arm, and everyone said it was so cool of him to do. And that was right during the Age of Ultron PR window.
MrCunningham
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The salt and blatant writing-offs in this thread is pretty goddamn pathetic.
A nice gesture from the cast.
I'm not bashing them for doing this, but to me it is kind of amusing. Ghostbusters in its current form is going to be unrecognizable to these kids as the name doesn't hold any weight to anyone younger than 30. Maybe if the new movie takes off in popularity and the Ghostbusters name becomes popular with younger audiences, these kids will have something to talk about later... "I got to meet the Ghostbusters before they were cool". But until then, these kids won't really know who these people are.
These are kids. A bunch of celebrities right in the middle of making a movie are visiting them in costume. They're probably ecstatic even if they don't know who the actresses are. And these are kids stuck in a hospital all day so they don't see very many people anyways.
not_so_special
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over a pr stunt?
and its a valid complaint,its this movie sacred now? people moan on every movie about suits,armours,etc
im a big fan of the original ghostbusters and im not feeling this movie,but the haters and defenders of this movie are ridiculous,the first one because a lot of reasons,one of them being women...the second ones defending the movie because there are women,and you know..if people talk shit its because misoginy not because all reboots get shit EVERYTIME,world its not black and white people,movie can be good or be shit,lets wait at least for a trailer
A Link to the Past
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Even if this is true that they wouldn't be impressed at all (I don't like to generalize, especially when it comes to sick kids, but I doubt they're the type of kids to be like "pfft, never heard of 'em. Get 'em out of here!", wouldn't you agree that this would also be true if the original Ghostbusters cast showed up? And can't we both agree that people would be so much more willing to be like "that's the COOLEST thing ever"? People wouldn't point out the kids' ignorance of Ghostbusters or joke about their smiling faces being contrasted with a sick kid's face, or to say "oh, it's just PR".
Wait, I'm confused. So not only do these kids not know what a Ghostbuster is, they also know what a Ghostbuster is and would be like "you're not Ernie Hudson!!"?
D.Lo
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I'm not against the movie, but it's funny how easily the logical argument of 'no kids would know who they are or what these costumes mean, the movie isn't even out' gets taken as "sexist haters!"
Think about what is different in that situation for two seconds.
Now that makes WAY more sense.
A Link to the Past
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Will do!
*thinks*
Oh, right. These are women and are starring in a movie that fanboys are so mad about that they make custom-made proton packs to destroy, while RDJ and Hemsworth are darlings and in movies that fanboys love.
The salt and blatant writing-offs in this thread is pretty goddamn pathetic.
A nice gesture from the cast.
You people do realize that there's nothing inherently wrong with criticizing or critiquing this, right? For me, I just don't see the value in taking pictures with kids who've never seen you or any of your movies (much less, the movie you're currently filming). To the kids, they're probably just people in costumes (like a clown or something).
RDJ is a terrible example because kids have seen him in Marvel movies and they all know who he is (unlike these people). While this is a great gesture, I still think it would be more impactful if it was done after the movie was out and everyone knew who they were. It's like "Jessica Jones" showing up to a kid's hospital next week.
Simple. Those two are men.
A Link to the Past
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It's nothing to do with "you can't critique this" and everything to do with "why is is being critiqued?" The question is asked because it's not often that people even think to complain that a celebrity is appearing at a children's hospital (or wherever) for PR. To me, as someone who sees basically any thread about the new Ghostbusters turn into "this isn't Ghostbusters", so I suspect that this would be the case here.
not_so_special
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you know this kind of responses are as dumb at the ones who bash anything because there are women involved no?
its always pr,always and its a good pr,and you got people questioning on any thread,it was the same with deep as sparrow on a school,i find these things good for the people on the hospital,these places are very funny and anything helps
Right. There haven't been any sexist reactions towards this movie at all. None. Equality has finally been achieved.
D.Lo
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I can't believe you're being that obtuse.
Hemsworth and RDJ has already made SEVEN film appearances between them as those characters at the point you specified. Combined those films had made five billion dollars.
McCarthy and co? Zero appearances as these characters so far.
Reptars Revenge
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I don't know how I feel about this. Some of these people will die before the movie even comes out.
Almost, but you let the SJW kick in a bit soon.
'those two are men... Who are in well publicised established roles that have been common knowledge from half a dozen films for the past decade'
Did you get debate lessons from GamerGate supporters?
Like people already said (even though you keep ignoring them) you can't compare the two since in your example that actor has been in 5 extremely successful and beloved movies by children. The other is a remake of a 80s movie that is still being filmed.
This might not be for PR, who knows, but it definitely does comes off as that way.
A Link to the Past
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Well no, that's wholly irrelevant. What you're describing is a "more effective PR stunt." If we're criticizing it as a PR stunt, then sure. But tons of people in this thread are saying it's bad for what it is, not how it is. Ironically, that's the same kind of criticism the remake is receiving. That kind of criticism, it does not matter if the most famous actor portraying the most famous role showed up. The criticism would still be valid, and yet the criticism would go unmade.
Again, if we're debating on the quality of a PR stunt, then it's valid. If we're debating on "this is a PR stunt" - which many in this thread DID, very clearly, make the point of saying - then the best and worst PR stunts can be compared. The discussion is not about how good of a PR stunt it was, it's about whether it was. And the point of bringing up RDJ/Hemsworth is to say "why is it okay that they did this PR stunt?" I don't expect that many people's grievances are the execution.
How? I keep asking but nobody's actually explained to me why they think this warrants such a cynical reaction.
But most of them aren't exactly celebrities though. I know one of them. How many do you think a kid would know?
And it's pretty much always PR whenever you see a celebrity at a hospital. In this case, the complaint (my complaint anyway) has everything to do with the fact that the movie hasn't even been released (not even a real trailer) and I don't understand why they're taking pics now. There will be plenty of time to do that after the movie is out. I would say the same thing if Channing Tatum suddenly showed up as "Gambit" in a kid's hospital before he even finished filming the movie (though comic book characters are a little different).not_so_special
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if you change the gender the cast of a cult movie u will get THE SAME results always,triying to make this the final sexist battle of the century is dumb..as dumb as label all the criticism as Misogyny,i dont like how many of you want to paint everything as black and white,get off of your high horse buddy,with these kinds of attitude you arent better than the ones u loathe
A Link to the Past
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If gender is not relevant to much of the discussion/criticism, we would be able to go and see people treat other films in the same way. The new Vacation? It certainly got a fair amount of criticism, but the sheer amount of betrayal felt by many fans for Ghostbusters trumps that. Heck, it's not even just sexism - when Idris Elba was rumoured to be Bond, the Internet exploded with criticism. If Idris was Bond, he'd easily be the most controversial choice.
Because you automatically get good PR when you go visit a hospital dressed up as a character kids love. However, this time it's being done for a movie that isn't even out yet. No one there is thinking, "wow, it's those beloved Ghostbusters from that movie that's currently being filmed!"
I'll give them the benefit of a doubt and say this was done in good faith but it looks kind of shady.
The movie is a year away. By the time it releases nobody is going to remember that one time the cast visited a bunch of sick kids at a hospital a year ago. If this is a PR stunt, it's not a very good one.
What's wrong with that?
excelsiorlef
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It's Ghosbusters (2016).
That what all this boils down to, a group of people who will grasp at anything to fuel their hatred for a fucking movie.
not_so_special
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yeah..its the first reboot who got shit from internet...yup
Nydius
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That's really the entire problem I have with the movie. Not that it's a reimagining, not that it's all female, but rather the fact that it feels they've gone out of their way to cast characters that almost seem like direct rip offs of the originals. I'd have so much more respect for this film if I didn't see the four standing there and immediately think: "Oh look, female Egon, female Ray, female Venkman, and female Winston. How original." It would have been much nicer to have all new character designs that didn't feel so obviously inspired by the original films.
Back on topic though, it was nice of them to do this, even if a lot of people probably didn't know what the hell was going on.
I have bolded the important part. The movie is a year from coming out, the roles haven't been defined and they are far from common in the publics eye. It's simply misjudged PR and poor timing, not everything has to be this great sexism and equality debate.
excelsiorlef
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In what way does McKinnon invoke Egon?
Or they wanted to do something nice, it's been established that filming has hardly been a secret thing in Boston.
not_so_special
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im a big gb fan and the least problem i have with this reboot is the woman cast,but will wait for a trailer at least,but im not digging the suits and the "ghostbusters bike" bring me bad memories of the robocop remake bike
A Link to the Past
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I think more important than that is "in what way does Jones invoke Zeddemore in any way?"
im a big gb fans and the least problem i have with this reboot is the woman cast,but will wait for a trailer at least
Haha, I love it. As if they were like "okay, let's rip off the cartoon too!" as opposed to having a blonde lady who has blonde hair. She may have goggles, the goggles may not even be red, she may be markedly shorter than the cartoon version, she may have a different personality than Egon (the two images don't exactly evoke the same ideas of their personalities), her hairstyle might not even be the same, but because she's blonde with thins over her eyes, she's Egon
Nydius
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You're kidding right?
Plus what not_so_special posted, if you're inclined to judge against the animation.
How is Leslie Jones a female Winston? Don't tell me you think they're the same character because of the color of their skin.
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