Final Fantasy XV 'Dawn' trailer

Perfo said:
It's also very unsual for a videogame, sincerely I can't recall a videogame where this happens. If they handle it well it'll be cool as shit. It's actually the thing I'm most interested in finding out now about the plot.
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The arranged marriage reminds me of FFX in a good way. Hopefully it's more than just a few lines of backstory!
 
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『Inaba Resident』;174221202 said:
Because we don't have proper context of the scene. We also really don't know the characters.
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I dont really see how either of those things are necessary to empathize. This is clearly meant as an introduction the motivations of the characters shown. No prior knowledge is required to feel a connection to or understand the predominant emotions portrayed by these scenes. The whole point is that they dont have to tell you you can see it in their faces.
 
Kagari said:
Was expecting a release year. Guess they're saving that.
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Next year will be the vague "Coming 2017" and then at E3 will be the trailer that doesn't say a date and people start being all "is it delayed?" then towards the end of 2017 we get an announcement that it's been delayed to "early" 2018 but please enjoy this new trailer "Dusk" which is 3 minutes of the dog from "Dawn" licking its balls in glorious 1080p with fur shading.
 
Dice// said:
Is all that seriously gone? Hot damn I wanted to know what happens next too! :(
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Yes, all of that is gone, including the party scene we saw for like a billion years. Tabata confirmed they scrapped everything relating to "Stella" and Noctis's original meeting, and in the process Luna was created as a completely different individual.
 
Well, that was lame as fuck.

Although I'm impressed they managed to make even a sleeping child that does basically nothing annoying.

Still, it was really pretty, if that's all in game graphics.
 
Pretty low on content, but I thought it was a nice mood piece.

Not sure why people were expecting a lot out of a Gamescom trailer. Gamescom is probably the lowest on the totem pole of game conferences. Not because it's bad or anything; that's just how it is in terms of visibility and mainstream interest.
 
I watched it for the third time. You know what, this was actually bold and well put together. It was just missing actual exposition and context. They didn't think this one through.

It's just not what this game needed, which automatically makes this ass.
 
Kaldea said:
Stella was the only reason I was interested in the first place. So shitty how they replaced her with someone like Luna.
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Same here. Stella was the first thing I saw of Versus XIII and was what I was most interested in. I still am pissed they were like "Wait and see what is in store with Stella!" for like five months and the payoff was "She is cut from the game."
 
I'm sorry if someone has mentioned it already but it looks like the protag has had the same hairstyle and outfit basically since he was 3 or 4 years old. Who does that?
 
Kagari said:
Hoping that's not really him and it's just a ruse.
Otherwise, stop changing shit PLEASE Tabata.
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What are you talking about? This is clearly Nomura's vision for the game.

Are you implying lord Tabata would lie to us? He said Nomura's vision was there still!


No, but seriously, VsXIII is dead. It died at TGS 2014 (actually, it died before, but we only learned about it then).
 
RexNovis said:
I dont really see how either of those things are necessary to empathize. This is clearly meant as an introduction the motivations of the characters shown. No prior knowledge is required to feel a connection to or understand the predominant emotions portrayed by these scenes. The whole point is that they dont have to tell you you can see it in their faces.
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Good trailers provide context. They tell little stories of their own. This trailer tells no story, and fails to explain why we should care about these emotional displays.
 
orochi91 said:
Fuck.

They actually changed his Yakuza style.
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They don't?
He still wears the same suit under the armor.
Plus, we still have to see him in current time, and considering we had the same old CG render last December, i think the changes will be much more subtle.
 
I think that's not his father but his grandfather.

"Fate would fall to the father and son of Lucis."

King Regis = Grandfather
Lucis = Father (Dude from the soup trailer)
Noctis = Main Character

I assume that was Lucis harming/intimidating Luna (Maybe Noctis gets hurt while with her?), sparking the war to kick up a notch, Lucis gets exiled/killed and Regis raises Noctis.

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm wrong. Lucis is the name of the country.
 
It looks good, I guess?

That hugging scene went on too long. lol

It's a shame that they changed the king/father's design.
 
That Youtube rating doesn't seem good.

Since tomorrow's stream is going to be live, I wonder how Tabata will react to the trailer's reception.
 
『Inaba Resident』;174221202 said:
Because we don't have proper context of the scene. We also really don't know the characters.
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What about taking the scenes for what they are. Its pretty evident which parts are trying to solicit an emotional reaction, whether its the uneasy feeling of watching an armor clad male thrash a young helpless girl, or sadness over seeing a father embrace his child and crying as though he would never get to embrace his son again.

Well, a lot of criticisms are legit like how weird looking "luna" is and the lack of va and the seemingly disjointedness of the three scenes, but i think we should analyze the trailer some more before we call it utter shit.
 
Mango Madness said:
Pretty low on content, but I thought it was a nice mood piece.

Not sure why people were expecting a lot out of a Gamescom trailer. Gamescom is probably the lowest on the totem pole of game conferences. Not because it's bad or anything; that's just how it is in terms of visibility and mainstream interest.
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Lol it's probably up there towards the top actually, more attendees than E3. Also, SE said that they would really kick off the game's marketing campain at this Gamescom.
 
Inuhanyou said:
Yes, all of that is gone, including the party scene we saw for like a billion years. Tabata confirmed they scrapped everything relating to "Stella" and Noctis's original meeting, and in the process Luna was created as a completely different individual.
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This sounds like it's going to be a mess.
 
Honestly the ATR better be ****ing amazing.


Because as of right now I really don't have any hope for this game anymore.

First off.... dat framerate?
Secondly... I feel like it's too many unnecessary changes at this point.
Third... it's been nearly a year since it's been all Duscae, and we get nothing at E3....for this?

Honestly this is ridiculous.

I needed to see a lot more in terms of story bits, and I needed to see gameplay, all in an excellent trailer.


Side note, I'm glad the trailer is getting a ****load of dislikes on YouTube. Tf is this?
 
Inuhanyou said:
Yeah. Luna is far from what i saw in Stella. A strong female heroine/antagonist that wasn't annoying and actually had somewhat of a unique role in the game. You don't usually see heroines so proactive as well as on the opposite side of the protagonist, actually fighting against them that much. Of course that's future is done with.

It seems the same befell Noctis's father as well.

To be honest, i don't really care if things have changed from Versus. Nomura is no longer on the project, its been years since that ship sailed. I've gotten past that.

All i want now is a good game to come out of all this bullshit, but i'm really irritated at how they are just giving us these no context trailers with hardly anything to go on.

Just give me a real trailer with gameplay and some real scenes that don't consist of hugging for more than half the thing
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Did you just imagine this Stella personality or was there some amazing piece of information I missed over the years that explained who she was?
 
XANDER CAGE said:
Because images and concepts on their own don't automatically make something good? Is Gears of War's "where's my wife" stuff automatically good because the idea of someone looking for their wife is sad?
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Events can be moving regardless of preexisting knowledge of the people involved. Knowledge can certainly elevate the level of empathy involved but intimate knowledge of the person or persons involved is not a required prerequisite to empathize.

Look I see how people came into this trailer expecting something really different and perhaps that colored your reaction here but as someone who went in with no expectation I left caring more about the characters and the story than when I went in. That, to me, is a successful trailer for an RPG.
 
Damerman said:
What about taking the scenes for what they are. Its pretty evident which parts are trying to solicit an emotional reaction, whether its the uneasy feeling of watching an armor clad male thrash a young helpless girl, or sadness over seeing a father embrace his child and crying as though he would never get to embrace his son again.

Well, a lot of criticisms are legit like how weird looking "luna" is and the lack of va and the seemingly disjointedness of the three scenes, but i think we should analyze the trailer some more before we call it utter shit.
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there's nothing to really analyse... there's 3 scenes total that are disjointed
 
At least we already knew that the story will get darker because Nojima's original will was very dark one and Nomura was trying to make it brighter one. Now XV respects Nojima's plot, and it is natural to become dark story.
 
Damerman said:
What about taking the scenes for what they are. Its pretty evident which parts are trying to solicit an emotional reaction, whether its the uneasy feeling of watching an armor clad male thrash a young helpless girl, or sadness over seeing a father embrace his child and crying as though he would never get to embrace his son again.

Well, a lot of criticisms are legit like how weird looking "luna" is and the lack of va and the seemingly disjointedness of the three scenes, but i think we should analyze the trailer some more before we call it utter shit.
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We've been analyzing for like an hour at this point which is plenty of time. I think its fair to start making judgements at this point.
 
Stereogatari said:
What's that that last bit with the phone vibrating supposed to mean? Is the release date on the phone's screen in the demo? lol.
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I would assume it's tongue-in-cheek. "A new king rises" when Noctis "rises" from his sleep because his alarm's going off.

Mango Madness said:
Not sure why people were expecting a lot out of a Gamescom trailer. Gamescom is probably the lowest on the totem pole of game conferences. Not because it's bad or anything; that's just how it is in terms of visibility and mainstream interest.
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Because the narrative seemed to be that they were skipping E3 to kick the game off at Gamescom.
 
Crossing Eden said:
It's a contextless shot of a man holding his son crying. Emphasis on contextless. Context usually helps when it comes to making a viewer feel something for a scene.
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An old man holding child in an empty city, saying that he'll always be with him. It turns out that he's about to face three humongous creatures towering above the city. I don't know, I think that's enough context to go on.

That said, what they show of Luna and the implication of her role continues to be disappointing.
 
I thought the scene was beautifully done, it's rare we have something about the love between the father and his son in a video game.

Also seeing as how the trailer is called dawn, wouldn't that mean there will be other trailers called Day, Dusk, Night?
 
Purple Cheeto said:
Did you just imagine this Stella personality or was there some amazing piece of information I missed over the years that explained who she was?
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Well we've seen Luna do a whole lot of nothing so far... so there's that.

I'm really hoping and will probably a little annoyed if literally nothing comes of her than girly waif.
 
wmlk said:
I watched it for the third time. You know what, this was actually bold and well put together.
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I thought the trailer was rather interesting. Though if I were expecting a TGS14 style trailer, or worse yet an E313 trailer I'd be mega disappointed. I feel it's just best to let go of any expectations or lamentations over what VSXIII or even the initial XV reveal was and just let it be whatever it is.

I don't want to make myself inevitably not like the game because I keep holding it up to a phantom of a game that I thought it would be.
 
Thoraxes said:
Present day him could look different, ya know.

A lot can change in 15 years.

Either way it's been clear from the rebranding that this is a different game.
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Yeah not in FF games where characters sense of style hardly ever changes over time (Yuna being an exception).

That's why everyone is probs worried haha
 
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