Pick-up artist (who believes rape should be legal) was chased out of Montreal bar

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Volimar said:
I imagine there is a sizeable portion of the population of pond scum for whom this man is a hero.
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And if they had their faces posted on the inside of every bar that would do it, I wouldn't feel bad. Fuck em.
 
ElTorro said:
Ok, so I looked for the original article where this quote is from, because I really wanted to see the "logic" behind this statement. Ready? Here it is.



If I ever saw a prime example of victim-blaming... What a sick fuck.
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so if rape is legal on private property, a woman would scream and make sure people know what's going on when she's about to get raped...even if there's nobody else in the house? is this guy for fucking real?

and even if there were other people, stuff like Kitty Genovese makes it known that people won't necessarily do anything to help.

edit: i'm thinking about this too hard, but i'm just shocked at how idiotic this argument is. like, within his own paragraph he disproves it, saying that rape will be gone on day one by women "guarding their bodies like their purse or phone." purses and phones are still stolen? i just don't...
 
At first, I was stunned at the concept that an actual human being could openly believe that rape should be legal and not become a total social pariah. But there are in fact tons more like him.

I was even more shook when I saw that people were defending this person: A known creep and rapist who got kicked out out a bar, a drink thrown in his face for allegedly preying on a girl. I understand the argument against mob justice, but from what I've seen it was just the drink in his face, and some verbal assaults but not much more than that. In this context I think it was justified to drive him out and away, the dude is known for taking advantage of women and should be ostracized

Even his police report seems unnecessarily objectifying.
 
FStop7 said:
roosh1.jpg


This is him?

LOL.

Just LOL.
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That picture actually reminds me of the old Jon Lajoie video
 
He's logic regarding rape is amazing. It basically amounts to "It's not innately bad. The problem is that it's technically a criminal act." It's like he's discovered how to get rid of all crime ever. Just legalize everything! Done!
 
Assanova said:
The police report for those that are interested:

I was walking with a group of male friends on Prince Authur street when I asked three women on the sidewalk for advice on which bar to go to. We talked for 5 minutes then all entered the bar that was in front of us. We had a round of tequilla shots. I did not know them beforehand.

I talked to one girl of the group who gave me the name "Jennifer." She complimented my beard and general attractiveness and asked me to come outside with her for a cigarette. She is approximately 23 years old, shoulder length hair, brown hair, brown eyes, and slim build. She has a piercing between her nose like farm bulls have.

I went outside and sat next to her. She began sensually rubbing her legs against mine. Her skirt was short. She went back inside and I found my friends.

After 5 minutes, a group of men entered the bar that were friends with the girl. They asked me to come outside to have a drink with them. I went outside and one of the men began acting aggressively towards me, asking me for my birth name. He was a tall man with a beard and ponytail. His English was not very good.

I stepped back and then "Jennifer" approached me aggressively and said, "Is your name Roosh?" I use this name for my online writings and published literature, but did not confirm it to her verbally. Then suddenly she threw her entire beer at my head. Two more of her female friends threw beers at me. I had to remove my wig because it was soaked with beer. The group tried to assault me further but I backed away with my friends. I feared for my safety.

As I left the bar, the group followed me, yelling vulgar language. One girl yelled, "Eat my cunt." We entered a building and they tried to trespass, but we closed the door. I called the police at that time and they took a brief statement, but did not make an arrest.

After the incident, a member of the group uploaded the video of the assault on Youtube under the title "Roosh V gets beer thrown in his face." It clearly shows them attacking me without just cause. One member of the group named Jessica Lelievre then boasted on Twitter from the account @Jess_Lelievre that she participated in the assault. She wrote, "Pooring my drink on Roosh V's head was the best moment EVER!!" (She misspelled the word 'pouring'.) Her profile states that she is a university student at Concordia.

Jessica looks similar to "Jennifer" but she is more plump in weight and does not have a piercing. She has brown hair, light brown eyes, and a large nose. After looking at her social networking accounts online, I can confirm that she participated in the attack by throwing a beer at me.

All throughout the night, her friends shared my Montreal address on Twitter, Youtube, and Reddit with the intent to continue their assault against me. I do not know the real name of "Jennifer," but she did state that Jessica Lelievre and her were "best friends forever."
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Reading this on a train and laughed out loud at him having a wig XD
 
That girl who posted that letter is pretty badass. "Bienvenue a Montreal, Mother Fucker" indeed.
shiba5 said:
Yes. They also whined about Captain Phasma from the new Star Wars movie for "imposing gender egalitarianism on a beloved sci-fi franchise."
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What the fuck? Are they elementary schoolers afraid of cooties or something?
 
I don't know if he said it to be controversial and provocative, or if he actually believes that's a good idea, but either way, this sort of edgy writing only serves to sabotage their own movement.
 
ZombiePlatypus said:
He's logic regarding rape is amazing. It basically amounts to "It's not innately bad. The problem is that it's technically a criminal act." It's like he's discovered how to get rid of all crime ever. Just legalize everything! Done!
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It's actually the kind of shoddy logic used by a lot of people trying to justify repugnant shit they do. I've read more than one account of child molesters thinking the core problem of sex with children is that the child is saying no, as opposed to the fact that they want to have fucking sex with children. They then argue the best course of action is to raise children into thinking that adults having sex with them is totally ok so that they won't say no.
 
SolicitorPirate said:
It's actually the kind of shoddy logic used by a lot of people trying to justify repugnant shit they do. I've read more than one account of child molesters thinking the core problem of sex with children is that the child is saying no, as opposed to the fact that they want to have fucking sex with children. They then argue the best course of action is to raise children into thinking that adults having sex with them is totally ok so that they won't say no.
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Nah. The idea is moronic don't get me wrong, but he isn't advocating that rape is okay. That wasn't the point he was making.
 
neogaffer1 said:
so if rape is legal on private property, a woman would scream and make sure people know what's going on when she's about to get raped...even if there's nobody else in the house? is this guy for fucking real?

and even if there were other people, stuff like Kitty Genovese makes it known that people won't necessarily do anything to help.

edit: i'm thinking about this too hard, but i'm just shocked at how idiotic this argument is. like, within his own paragraph he disproves it, saying that rape will be gone on day one by women "guarding their bodies like their purse or phone." purses and phones are still stolen? i just don't...
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Maybe they weren't guarded hard enough or they wanted to be stolen secretly? /s
I think all he's arguing that your first word is final, you cannot change your mind. Don't waste his precious time.
Which is insane of course.
 
leadbelly said:
Nah. The idea is moronic don't get me wrong, but he isn't advocating that rape is okay. That wasn't the point he was making.
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The point he was making was that it is the woman's fault for being raped. Which is pretty much just as bad so I really don't get why you somehow think that going "wasn't the point he was making" is a good thing when the point he was making was fucking awful in the first place.
 
leadbelly said:
Nah. The idea is moronic don't get me wrong, but he isn't advocating that rape is okay. That wasn't the point he was making.
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Roosh and his ilk may not be making the precise argument that the route to preventing all crime is to simply make everything legal, but they most certainly do not comprehend that rape is a horrible violation and a thoroughly evil, contemptible act. He puts forward the idea that making rape legal serves as the greater good because rape is a form of punishment for "careless" women - a "learning experience" so that they are "better behaved" in future (like disciplining naughty children):

"Bad encounters are sure to occur, but these can be learning experiences for the poorly trained woman so she can better identify in the future the type of good man who will treat her like the delicate flower that she believes she is. After only one such sour experience, she will actually want to get fully acquainted with a man for longer than two hours—perhaps even demanding to meet his parents—instead of letting a beer chug prevent her from making the correct decisions to protect her body."

It's not just moronic, it's breathtakingly lacking in basic human empathy.
 
Just angrily shouting "LOGICAL FALLACIES" without elaboration is a really solid arguing style, I Should use that from now on.


Yrael said:
Roosh and his ilk may not be making the precise argument that the route to preventing all crime is to simply make everything legal, but they most certainly do not comprehend that rape is a horrible violation and a thoroughly evil, contemptible act. He puts forward the idea that making rape legal serves as the greater good because rape is a form of punishment for "careless" women - a "learning experience" so that they are "better behaved" in future (like disciplining naughty children):
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I'm sure Roosh imagines himself just filling his "civil duty" by teaching women to be careful in his imaginary world.

The entire thing comes across as a creepy as hell "corrective rape" fantasy where he wants to sexually force women to "Step back in line".
 
aeolist said:
extremist libertarians are still libertarians, and extremist left wingers are still left wing. nobody's attacking you or your personal politics, just making an observation about this particular asshole and his.
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This is the same kind of logic that paints all Muslims as being crazy murderous zealots. It's bad form to label him as a "libertarian" since that isn't how libertarianism is typically defined.
 
shiba5 said:
Yes. They also whined about Captain Phasma from the new Star Wars movie for "imposing gender egalitarianism on a beloved sci-fi franchise."
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You just blew my mind. If it wasn't because I read about that stupid Mad Max brouhaha first I wouldn't believe someone would seriously protest because Star Wars dared to put a human with a vagina as a bad guy.

And yes, like somebody else here said: I also believe Rey's going to be the main character and these guys are in for a big surprise. Can't wait to see the meltdowns.
 
Shaanyboi said:
Guy convinces a bunch of other guys with low self-confidence the "secrets" of picking up women as if it's a repeatable three-step formula or something.
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sounds like a Pyramid/Ponzi Scheme...

In other news, I'm a nigerian prince that need someone to help me transfer some money out of Nigeria. Will pay you 10% of the total money as transfer fee....Please believe me!!!

/S
 
berzeli said:
The point he was making was that it is the woman's fault for being raped. Which is pretty much just as bad so I really don't get why you somehow think that going "wasn't the point he was making" is a good thing when the point he was making was fucking awful in the first place.
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I didn't say it was a good thing though did I? I said it was moronic.

I kind of like accuracy. I think that being accurate about what you are actually arguing against is important. Maybe that is just me though...

Yrael said:
Roosh and his ilk may not be making the precise argument that the route to preventing all crime is to simply make everything legal, but they most certainly do not comprehend that rape is a horrible violation and a thoroughly evil, contemptible act. He puts forward the idea that making rape legal serves as the greater good because rape is a form of punishment for "careless" women - a "learning experience" so that they are "better behaved" in future (like disciplining naughty children):

"Bad encounters are sure to occur, but these can be learning experiences for the poorly trained woman so she can better identify in the future the type of good man who will treat her like the delicate flower that she believes she is. After only one such sour experience, she will actually want to get fully acquainted with a man for longer than two hours—perhaps even demanding to meet his parents—instead of letting a beer chug prevent her from making the correct decisions to protect her body."

It's not just moronic, it's breathtakingly lacking in basic human empathy.
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Right, okay. To be honest I was sort of confused by his blog. As I said in my original post, I don't know if he is intentionally trying to be provocative or if he is being serious. The part you are quoting does seem to lack any real empathy like you said though.

The reason I wasn't sure anyway about the tone of the blog post is that parts of it are clearly sarcastic in tone.

I also read that men must be taught not to rape, which means that they are all born with the capability to rape and have zero instinct to know that taking a woman with violence is improper. Thankfully, a man only has to be told the phrase “rape is bad” at some point after puberty by an overweight feminist to definitively stop his future brutal and bloody rape career. It’s a miracle that more men have not raped their mothers, babysitters, and sisters before being taught in college that rape is actually not a good thing.
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Something he clearly finds absurd. Maybe he is reacting to the rhetoric with something equally absurd?
http://www.donotlink.com/framed?640891

The truth is, I don't know. I will just call it moronic and move on.
 
Assanova said:
I am somewhat familiar with this guy, and the impression I get is that people are cherry picking some of his quotes and taking them out of context. I could be wrong, but that is the impression that I get. I think that part of his argument was for women to be more responsible about some of the situations that they place themselves in. I think that his main point was that it is too easy for both a woman and man to be drunk, have sex, and then for the woman to say that a guy raped her, even if they both consented at the time. He also says something along the lines of it being too easy for a man's life to be ruined by a woman who regrets having sex after the fact. Rape is never right, but I think that the above is what he was getting at with his comments.
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Have you never read Return of Kings? Or any of his writing? He's been quoted extensively in this topic alone.

He's the type of dude that wants to sexually assault any woman who comes into his domain, and then absolute protection against that assault being prosecuted. He's not even subtle about it. He'll occasionally hide it behind Title 9 reform but he's a shameless sexual predator.
 
Shaanyboi said:
Guy convinces a bunch of other guys with low self-confidence the "secrets" of picking up women as if it's a repeatable three-step formula or something.
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Even worse, it usually involves treating women like shit and seeing them like a piece of flesh, a sexual object to be taken advantage of by the PUA. It's horrible.
 
shiba5 said:
Yes. They also whined about Captain Phasma from the new Star Wars movie for "imposing gender egalitarianism on a beloved sci-fi franchise."
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Sci fi, unfortunately, is fighting the toxic bullshit of MRAs, with the 2015 Hugo Awards being the current focal point.
 
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Have you never read Return of Kings? Or any of his writing? He's been quoted extensively in this topic alone.

He's the type of dude that wants to sexually assault any woman who comes into his domain, and then absolute protection against that assault being prosecuted. He's not even subtle about it. He'll occasionally hide it behind Title 9 reform but he's a shameless sexual predator.
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I have read one or two articles that got really popular on the web, but I don't visit it. Legalized rape is a stupid idea, but I am aware that he is sometimes sarcastic, although I don't think that it is a smart move to even joke about it.
 
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