DryvBy
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There's plenty of great open world games. There's also plenty of bad linear games. Good games are good games.
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain | Review Thread | Words That Kill
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There's plenty of great open world games. There's also plenty of bad linear games. Good games are good games.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
It probably wont be an issue but I am annoyed. I don't get any pleasure out of finding/collecting arbitrary things to try and 100% a game so I'll probably not get to see the true ending for an abitrary reason.
MiamiWesker
Member
The European reviews in general seem to be more open describing what they played and what they couldn't. They descibe bosses and this true ending stuff better.
The best was the games radar one which is not a review cause he didn't finish the game. The article said this:
And these guys review the game playing the game like that. I find that to be ridiculous.
The best was the games radar one which is not a review cause he didn't finish the game. The article said this:
And these guys review the game playing the game like that. I find that to be ridiculous.
MiamiWesker
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No there is no need to collect stuff or get 100% to see the true ending. Reviews say you have to replay a few missions and bosses on new difficulty modes to see it.
I guess you didn't play peace walker.
Sounds awesome!
Unless there are thousands of random meaningless collectibles you need to find as well, but having some requirements for a new ending is always exciting to me!
Well, there you go, can't wait to do it then!
Yabberwocky
Member
I don't think I'll ever-ever-ever get over the fact that Kojima won't be making a version of this. Urrrrgh.
Nope just missions and hidden objectives you need to discover by listening to guards, interrogating them and so on and even those are not needed for S rank.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
It's a kick in the tits for people who dont want to play at higher difficulty levels that do nothing outside of give enemies more HP and make them hit harder.
Anyway I'm done moaning, just a shame it ended this way. I am 50/50 about wanting to play it now.
Uno Venova
Banned
Scaled back story is a huge hype killer for me. All they needed to do was scale it back from the MGS4 levels.
Zombie James
Banned
A scaled back story in a 40+ hour game bothers me, too.
95% on Metacritic at the moment: http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain/critic-reviews
However should fall when more reviews come in, usually happens.
However should fall when more reviews come in, usually happens.
Yeah I think that any time constrained heavily controlled event organized by the publisher is a terrible environment to review games in. Lame as hell.
Elysium-777
Member
So there's no way to play through the game on Hard the first time around? I wasn't too big a fan of Ground Zeroes making me play on Normal first.
So S ranks on every mission is the actual requirement? And difficulty and optional objectives just make it easier?
Well, you can choose to look at it as a kick in the tits for people who don't want to, but I choose to look at it as incentive for people who do like it. You can always just youtube the other endings, as I do in most games I'm not interested in playing more than once. I'm still glad it's there for the people who do enjoy those games enough
Yep, even worse when they include helicopter rides to swank hotels, expensive meals and booze. That's not an environment in which good reviewing is gonna happen.
It was in ground zeroes. Optional stuff and objectives just gives you more points that feed into S rank. Pretty sure difficulty just makes it more difficult haha I forgot if you get more points.
artsi
Member
I don't know about TPP but GZ had also other adjustments, like more accurate (realistic) sight on the enemies and weapon loadout.
That's hilarious. Hard to believe anyone playing the game like that wouldn't be honest about it or claim their review is legitimate. I mean the chicken hat/invisibility? You need full disclosure on that, that's awful.
snake_eater_raiden
Member
Still a possibility. But reviewers have so far walloped the story. One reviewer even went ahead and said it's just "there". Looks like it's going to be the worst Metal Gear in terms of story line.
In my opinion, even if the game is getting 90+ scores, there is no doubt this is going to be divisive game.
Anyways, not too long to go.
Also, any review which is under continuous watch of publishers loses credibility in my opinion. Games are meant to be played in uncontrolled environments without any kind of interference. So I will form my own review when I play the game.
MiamiWesker
Member
No clue but it sounds like hard is an option that opens later. That said these are unique hard modes that have restrictions, basically a focused challenge. Perhaps there is still the traditional hard mode option like in GZ.
Clarkus Darkus
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Uno Venova
Banned
That's what I'm saying yeah.
infinityBCRT
Member
I actually think it was smart-- it gave reviewers 40-50 hours of playtime plus they were able to compare notes with fellow reviewers. It's such a beast of a game that some of the people who went to the review event still weren't comfortable enough to score the game. Imagine if reviewers were given the game to take home-- they might not set aside enough time to get the full experience.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Just a warning to y'all, I just watched gregs review on Kinda Funny Games. He goes on at length about there being no spoilers in the review and proceeds to drop a fairly big spoiler at the 16 minute mark. I'm not being overly sensitive here either.
I like Greg but he can be a right idiot sometimes.
I like Greg but he can be a right idiot sometimes.
You can thank everyone who called MGS4 a movie.
phoeniks314
Banned
Does someone know, when you on a mission is kaz talking to you/giving you mission info or is it revolver?
no they can thank Hideo Kojima.. who made the game.. dohhh
Kojima and his team care about fan feedback you know.
DryvBy
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Yautja_Warrior
Member
I'm hoping that the scaled back story just means scaled back compared to the other MGS games (no more 40 minute cut scenes) but still has enough story to satisfy.
Overall though the reviews seem very positive, so I can't see it being too disappointing.
Overall though the reviews seem very positive, so I can't see it being too disappointing.
snake_eater_raiden
Member
The cutscenes were long, sure. But in the context they were needed.
MGS5 seems such a different game that after reading these so called reviews, my hype meter has hit rock bottom.
A MGS with soul less protagonist, lame story and less cutscnes is not Metal Gear.
I am getting all versions, CE, guide etc but I am really apprehensive about the game. If Kojima screws up, I am not going to miss him when he leaves Konami.
What a lame ending. Taker only won because of that roshambo.
ehh... not when it comes to the gameplay.. no.. they decided to make it Open World with another way to tell the story.
Elysium-777
Member
Ah, that sounds good then. I actually enjoy when a game forces me to change up my playstyle.
Nemesis_
Member
I don't want to wade through reviews but has anyone talked about the boss battles? Are they as interesting / iconic as the original games?
Or are they shitty robot battles like in Peace Walker?
This is the only thing I need to know before going in (everything else is remaining blind, as far as I'm concerned)
Or are they shitty robot battles like in Peace Walker?
This is the only thing I need to know before going in (everything else is remaining blind, as far as I'm concerned)
I love my linear MGS games. It's the best way to tell a proper story, no matter how well an open world is designed.
I don't mind that GTA is open world, cause it has always been that way.
I do trust in Kojima and his visions, but I would prefer the final MGS game from him being a linear experience.
I worded my last post poorly, sorry for that.
I have no problems understanding and accepting that certain people (probably a lot) is super happy they can play an open world Metal Gear Solid.
But I'm not.
Rogue Agent
Banned
That's what I was thinking initially. There's going to be so much more gameplay than previous games, there would still be a huge volume of story tucked away in there but just way more spread out and manageable than before without interrupting the gameplay. That would in my opinion be the right way to go about it and help give you the motivation to get through the 40+ hours, but I haven't liked what we've been hearing at all from reviews in regards to the amount of story.
I understand that MGS4 got a lot of criticism for the length of cutscenes but going the complete opposite extreme feels like missing the point to me, it's not like a satisfying middleground isn't an option.
He sure can. That whole thing around that time is kinda hilarious. He's explicitly saying "This isn't a spoiler" but it is and he has no clue.
snake_eater_raiden
Member
Dont expect MGS3 style boss battles. The setting was perfect for some rich boss battles but does not seem that the game has any innovation there. IGN actually thrashed the boss battles if their so called review is to be considered.
snake_eater_raiden
Member
The firing of Hayter, hiring of an expensive actor in Sutherland etc...do you really thought MGS5 will be big story wise? Big Boss does not talk at all.
As I said in my previous post, this is going to be a controversial game for hardcore MGS fans.
DryvBy
Member
Yes, don't read anything quoting that gif.
MiamiWesker
Member
Games radar claims it's better than a lot of MGS4s bosses but not as good as mgs3.