Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain | Review Thread | Words That Kill

Heartfyre

Member
Interesting, that's how they've changed the scoring. No penalty per kill, rather one flat bonus for no killing. That's a better way to do it.

True, that. Especially since it seems to make a lot more sense that Big Boss will be killing loads of people in this game.

But seriously...playing through a fifty-hour Metal Gear game without a single alert? I'm guessing this is a platinum trophy I shall not be earning.
 

Lucid07

Member
Anyone in here fancy adding me on PS4 to play MGO online when it's released? I'll help defend your Base as well (And may attack it)

Hit me up: colonel_jake
 
Interesting, that's how they've changed the scoring. No penalty per kill, rather one flat bonus for no killing. That's a better way to do it.
That is the best change. Every single metal gear I do nothing but tranquilizer people because of penalties but this game seems to encourage the use of lethal weapons. I'll do a little of both in this.
 

duckroll

Member
True, that. Especially since it seems to make a lot more sense that Big Boss will be killing loads of people in this game.

But seriously...playing through a fifty-hour Metal Gear game without a single alert? I'm guessing this is a platinum trophy I shall not be earning.

No alert rewards are usually stuff veteran players earn on speed run replays. Either that, or a very careful first playthrough. The former will not take anything close to 50 hours, once you know the fastest and best ways to tackle each mission and what optional stuff to ignore, plus skipping all the cutscenes.
 

SomTervo

Member
True, that. Especially since it seems to make a lot more sense that Big Boss will be killing loads of people in this game.

But seriously...playing through a fifty-hour Metal Gear game without a single alert? I'm guessing this is a platinum trophy I shall not be earning.

Surely that's mission-by-mission though?

As in, surely you don't have to play the whole thing without alert start-to-finish, in one 'save'? Ie you can get the platinum doing missions repeatedly and trying to perfect them each in their own instance.
 

ZeroX03

Banned
True, that. Especially since it seems to make a lot more sense that Big Boss will be killing loads of people in this game.

But seriously...playing through a fifty-hour Metal Gear game without a single alert? I'm guessing this is a platinum trophy I shall not be earning.

The only thing that would annoy me is if you're at the end of a long mission and you accidentally kill someone. Suddenly that big bonus is gone, whereas in GZ it'd just be a small penalty for a single person. But if you kill one you can go wild and kill them all.

Where are you getting the alert trophy from? Is that a secret achievement? By the scoring it looks like you could get away with an alert if you don't kill.

I enjoy doing Big Boss runs in MG games fortunately.
 
True, that. Especially since it seems to make a lot more sense that Big Boss will be killing loads of people in this game.

But seriously...playing through a fifty-hour Metal Gear game without a single alert? I'm guessing this is a platinum trophy I shall not be earning.

Those are per mission, you probably don't need to worry about game totals if it's like Peace Walker.
 
Can you not refund on steam and order at simply to get it tomorrow? Unless you really want to play it on PC.

I tried, but as I had played four hours of Ground Zeroes (it was a preorder bonus) they refused my refund. I even said in the refund notes I would be willing to pay separately for GZ but the bastards shut me down. Shit thing is, I have had GZ on the PS4 for like a year :( I didn't have to play it again on pc.
 
Surely that's mission-by-mission though?

As in, surely you don't have to play the whole thing without alert start-to-finish, in one 'save'? Ie you can get the platinum doing missions repeatedly and trying to perfect them each in their own instance.

Correct. Also, if you mess up, you don't have to repeat the entire mission. You just have to reload the last checkpoint.
 

artsi

Member
Seriously regretting preordering on Steam now. If only I just ordered it from Simplygames. Fml

At least we're getting the best looking version in trade, stay tough brother. A few days isn't bad when it's the MGS experience of a lifetime waiting for us.
 
At least we're getting the best looking version in trade, stay tough brother. A few days isn't bad when it's the MGS experience of a lifetime waiting for us.

I had a three day weekend and everything though, and no commitments. I will stay strong though. I must.
 

Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
You're welcome to PM if you want a tip on a super easy way to get the Fox emblem

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Total play time over 67 hours? holy cow.
 
Ordered from simply games yesterday at 2:00, shipped at 5:00, holding in my hands right now - 12:40.

I will never order from another company again.
 

ZeroX03

Banned
How does time relate to scoring? I hate that it's making me speed run this.

Looks like it still makes up the majority of the score like in GZ and every other past MGS game. In GZ you could finish missions in a few minutes if you knew what you were doing. People hoping for S ranks on their first playthrough will probably be disappointed though.

From what I understand - and if it's like PW - getting better gear as Mother Base grows will make it much easier too. I figure you go at your own pace for the first of each story mission.

Also certain missions in GZ you could do optional things like rescuing non-essential prisoners to boost your score. Might be possible here. Of course I'm just interpolating information from one score screen so don't take my word as gospel.
 

valkyre

Member
I dont know if this has been already answered (probably yes) but are enemies and entire bases going into full instant alert mode if 1 guy spots you like in Ground Zeroes?
 

swooshboy

Neo Member
Not expecting any stores to break streetdate here... (Netherlands)

It'll have to be either Mediamarkt or Gamemania. I expect them to sell the game on monday at the earliest :(

So jelly of all you who have the game already

Preordered it from gamemania in NL, but also ordered it from Simply Games. It shipped yesterday, but not sure if it is going to arrive before the actual release date.

Worked out as 10 euros cheaper than gamemania, which is good to know for future games.
 
So Game's 1-2 days for delivery is more like 7?

Goddamn, I hate Game.

There was a short time where I thought I might make GAME my go-to, as 3DS game seemed to be a little cheaper on there, and they have a Rewards service.

Then I remembered that they're a pile of shite :p


My SimplyGames order was dispatched yesterday but didn't arrive today :(

Can't play til Saturday anyway, then got 5 days off to play the shit out of it. Not been this excited for a release for a while, GTAV probably.
 

Heartfyre

Member
Where are you getting the alert trophy from? Is that a secret achievement? By the scoring it looks like you could get away with an alert if you don't kill.

I enjoy doing Big Boss runs in MG games fortunately.

Just assuming. There's a long list of hidden trophies that (I think) are still unknown, and after MGS4's trophy list, I'd not think they'd be kind. We'll see how it goes. If it's there, it'd probably be part of a post-game emblem requirement.
 
There was a short time where I thought I might make GAME my go-to, as 3DS game seemed to be a little cheaper on there, and they have a Rewards service.

Then I remembered that they're a pile of shite :p


My SimplyGames order was dispatched yesterday but didn't arrive today :(

Can't play til Saturday anyway, then got 5 days off to play the shit out of it. Not been this excited for a release for a while, GTAV probably.

Truly the worst video games company in the UK. No question about it. It's just a shame they keep getting all the damn exclusives.
 

ZeroX03

Banned
Just assuming. There's a long list of hidden trophies that (I think) are still unknown, and after MGS4's trophy list, I'd not think they'd be kind. We'll see how it goes. If it's there, it'd probably be part of a post-game emblem requirement.

I just found the Xbox One achievement list and it shows all the hidden ones I think. Some of them are vague, like the Hero rank one, but no obvious spoilers or no alert run trophies.

I think you'd probably do the bulk of the main missions as no alert for S Rank, but I don't see why you'd have to do them all. And again restart checkpoint really helps, it looks the penalty is less than if you were to get multiple alerts. Not as liberal as GZ though.

So if you get Perfect Stealth + No Kills, you could probably Restart Checkpoint as much as you want and still get S Rank. I think. Unless perfect stealth includes no restarts.
 

Hagi

Member
Has anybody has trouble redeeming the codes that come in the box? only the day 1 code worked for me. Don't even know what the other code is for.
 

Deacan

9/10 NeoGAFfers don't understand statistics. The other 3/10 don't care.
My copy has arrived from Simply Games, just in time for the 3 day weekend.
 

SomTervo

Member
Simplygames doesnt deliver to the netherlands right?

You only get the (British) Royal Mail first class delivery free, and that's often 1 day. If you are outwith the Royal Mail first class region (UK only), you probably can't get the next-day delivery :(
 

kubus

Member
Preordered it from gamemania in NL, but also ordered it from Simply Games. It shipped yesterday, but not sure if it is going to arrive before the actual release date.

Worked out as 10 euros cheaper than gamemania, which is good to know for future games.
Hope it arrives soon! I think it's too late for me to order from simplygames now. I just hope Game Mania doesn't let me down :(
 

Woodchipper

Member
Kinda sucks having ordered the digital version now, but then again I don't know how I'd be able to get it early in Sweden anyway.

Can't wait!
 

swooshboy

Neo Member
Hope it arrives soon! I think it's too late for me to order from simplygames now. I just hope Game Mania doesn't let me down :(

Are you buying in person from Game Mania, or online?

Worst case, I will cycle to the local one and get it Tuesday (not sure if they are doing a midnight opening?). But would be nice if it arrives before the weekend from the UK :)
 
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