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SPOILER: Metal Gear Solid V Spoiler Thread | Such a lust for conclusion, T-WHHOOOO

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It did hit me. But I admit the whole time I was wishing I was controlling the real Big Boss instead. The scene itself was great, but if I was playing as Naked Snake having to kill the comrades he recruited during Peace Walker would've been 10000 times better.

You wouldn't know the difference unless you spoiled yourself beforehand, which I'm pretty sure you did if memory serves from pre-release.

How is it any less meaningful when Venom Snake recruited these people and had a relationship with them? They never even knew Big Boss. Big Boss's MB got destroyed before most of these guys even saw their first gun.
 
reminder how they had time to add cutscenes like birthday party or Quiet soft porn but they didn't have time to actually finish the game.
 
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Such lust for mystery.

Who hid the content? WHOOOOOOOOOO
 
Quiet could speak Navajo and they had CT on board. CT could explain her situation to Ocelot and Boss, being a interpreter for her. A lot of things surrounding her just don't make any sense.

She vows to never speak, but she wants to keep the ability to exact revenge regardless. Yeah right.
 
Yeah, pretty depressing moment. -heroism.

I think my gripe with this scene is that I don't have a personal relationship to my diamond dogs. I wish there were more intereactions with them on MB, would have a greater impact for sure, at least for me.

Even the annoying iDroid voice telling me "Staff member has died" gave me goosebumps... =(

But I don't understand why the game decides to take heroism points away. Aren't you being a hero by preventing this thing from spreading all over the world? Sure, you are killing your men, but most of them actually know and accept, and even ASK you to do it. So how exactly are you becoming a demon?

Actually letting them live should take heroism points away... This game's idea of "being a demon" and "being a hero" is incredibly backwards and stupid....
 
Quiet could speak Navajo and they had CT on board. CT could explain her situation to Ocelot and Boss, being a interpreter for her.

But what would happen if her and Faux Boss hooked up and they tried to do dirty talk. Code Talker would have to translate, and at his speed of translation, Boss might get soft and the mood would be spoiled.

Think about it.

Think!
 
Even the annoying iDroid voice telling me "Staff member has died" gave me goosebumps... =(

But I don't understand why the game decides to take heroism points away. Aren't you being a hero by preventing this thing from spreading all over the world? Sure, you are killing your men, but most of them actually know and accept, and even ASK you to do it. So how exactly are you becoming a demon?

Actually letting them live should take heroism points away... This game's idea of "being a demon" and "being a hero" is incredibly backwards and stupid....

It happens at the very start of the game. 'I am already a demon'. When that line was teased I expected it to be somewhere mid game where you did atrocious stuff to people. But he says it right after he wakes up from a coma and saves his buddy from terrorists. True demon alright.
 
But what would happen if her and Faux Boss hooked up and they tried to do dirty talk. Code Talker would have to translate, and at his speed of translation, Boss might get soft and the mood would be spoiled.

Think about it.

Think!

Also, Code Talker's exposition alone would have killed both Quiet and Snake due to accelerated aging from boredom during the end of 45 if he translated
 
It happens at the very start of the game. 'I am already a demon'. When that line was teased I expected it to be somewhere mid game where you did atrocious stuff to people. But he says it right after he wakes up from a coma and saves his buddy from terrorists. True demon alright.

"Kaz... I'm already... A quite nice guy, actually..."

"In Outer Heaven, men become nice heroic people."


I guess those phrases weren't as catchy from a marketing perspective. :p
 
It happens at the very start of the game. 'I am already a demon'. When that line was teased I expected it to be somewhere mid game where you did atrocious stuff to people. But he says it right after he wakes up from a coma and saves his buddy from terrorists. True demon alright.

"I just saved your ass from a bunch of Commies a few days after waking up from a nine-year coma. I'm so evil, Kaaaahz."
 
Why? Quiet IS Stefanie Joosten, they scanned her face, body, she did everything herself, motion capture, voice etc. why should anyone else voice her?
They should have done that with everyone instead there being one mo cap actor and. One VA.
Kojima should have learned something from the Last of Us instead of stealing Joel and expecting western magic.
 
I S ranked most of the missions, maxed out motherbase, and researched everything. Put over a hundred and twenty hours into game, now what?
 
Best model of Snake is the Legacy Collection render.

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Actual in-game models, his AC!D render is great because it shows his MGS1 self pre-haircut, and also gives him the superior facial hair:

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I also really like full beard Old Snake, not sure if it was fan made or an unused concept though.

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Yeeeeah, but people have got "100%" completion and not seen that stuff.

Well, we have the Disarmament cutscenes he says are attainable in-game that none of the 100%ers have gotten, meaning it's likely a lot of the stuff he may be talking about is tied to online stuff (such as the theory that getting rid of all the FOB nukes triggers the nuke ending).
 
Even the annoying iDroid voice telling me "Staff member has died" gave me goosebumps... =(

But I don't understand why the game decides to take heroism points away. Aren't you being a hero by preventing this thing from spreading all over the world? Sure, you are killing your men, but most of them actually know and accept, and even ASK you to do it. So how exactly are you becoming a demon?

Actually letting them live should take heroism points away... This game's idea of "being a demon" and "being a hero" is incredibly backwards and stupid....

Oh, i turned Donna Burke pretty early in the game.
 
Did anyone else feel like Kaz should have thrown Huey into the water Darth Vader style, When he yells at Venom saying he slaughtered his men?

I was actually disappointed at everyone's reaction. Hell, Ocelot just grabs his shoulder in a "c'mon dude, just stop" kind of way. At the very least he should've CQC'd his ass to the ground.
 
It happens at the very start of the game. 'I am already a demon'. When that line was teased I expected it to be somewhere mid game where you did atrocious stuff to people. But he says it right after he wakes up from a coma and saves his buddy from terrorists. True demon alright.

The followup was also quite great, imo. "Heaven's not my kind of place anyway". Too bad the game throws it away.
 
So they want us to 'find' significant story content? I beat every fucking main mission and 75% of the side ops which are boring me to tears right now since I did more than 5 of any type.

I don't expect Kingdom of the flies to unlock after doing all this shit.

So yeah you can deplete your GMP for an MB scene. And there is the nuke ending I youtubed and wasn't too impressed by it.
 
Remember when Kojima got on stage at GDC with Ishmael's bandages? He probably thought the twist was GOAT. I didn't mind at first, but getting increasingly bummed when I think of what could've been. I think I saw theories of V not being BB, but brushed them off, thought Kojima was past making twists regarding the main characters identity. In MGS2 it tied into the theme of the game... Though I suppose you could make the argument for V too, since the game is more about the story you create during gameplay. Just wish the marketing hadn't been so misleading. Didn't the japanese ads make a big deal about how the game would reveal BBs turn to evil? Sigh. And that final trailer, showing BB turning (metaphorically)into Skullface, all a lie.

It's not really a lie. Skull Face was Zero's phantom. Venom Snake was Big Boss's phantom. From FOX two phantoms were born. It made sense that the two phantoms would attempt to kill each other, neither knowing they've both been duped. They both turn quite corrupt in the end even. Skull Face becomes a nihilist who is bent on the total eradication of human language... he's bitter, and thinks what he's going to do will help the world. Venom Snake believes that disarming all nukes aside from their own, and building a military complex/nation with enough power to take down any opposing country, while spurring wars on around the world for profit is the way things have to be.

None of these pre-solid guys are very good guys. They're all jaded, cynical, selfish assholes. Zero made The Patriots to run the world and didn't take into consideration how that might work out, not to mention he cloned BB, with zero shits given as to the ethics of it. Huey was a sociopath that killed Hal's mom, and murdered a lot of people for self-gain. Miller became obsessed with revenge. BB thought that creating a military nation, and using one of his own trusted friends as a scapegoat was a great idea for world peace. He then goes on to justify child soldiers, and the idea that all soldiers are good for is killing, and fighting. Paramedic did horrible human experiments and probably made if sound just fine to her colleagues... she loved animals guys, not people. Sigint goes on to help develop The Patriots, and Metal Gear... Everyone of the pre-solid characters were selfish and driven to "shape" things into what they wanted, and the core characters wanted to "realize The Boss's will" when they missed the fucking point. They all interpreted The Boss in their own ways... she's the most interesting character in the series because she was so misunderstood. I never want a game starring The Boss... because Kojima would fuck her up. She's amazing as she stands now.

Post-BB era is filled with compassionate characters who fight the identity they were given. They don't give a damn about "The Boss" or even Big Boss... They hated him in fact, and viewed him as a tyrannical psychopath. Hal was a good hearted guy who obviously hated his father... we never get hear about it, but this game cleared up why. Raiden is an EXTREMELY tragic character and he's amazingly written in my opinion... I could detail the amount of fucked up things that guys been through, but everyone saying "he's whiney!" well... you live through what Solidus put him through as a child soldier, and get fed gunpowder, hypnotized with nanomachine, get skull sliced in two and be turned 95% cyborg... etc.... He fights to refute the horrible person inside of him, and he reflects upon it. Solid wants so badly to stop fighting but he has to, so that he can put a stop to the insane bullshit his father created... Ocelot is probably the most interesting character in that he is literally The Boss's son, and he probably did far more than Big Boss or Zero ever did... in that he cleaned up everybody's messes... This game did a good job showing us the beginning of the descent of the characters that created the giant trainwreck Solid, Ocelot, Otacon, and Raiden are forced to clean up. Ocelot is the last remaining remnant of the Big Boss era, and even seems to still look at him in an admirable light. He begins cleaning up the mess that his colleagues started, and in the end he looks quite evil to us... at least through most of his solid characterizations... likely because that's how he's meant to come off as. He looked at those people as his peers and even idols... So honestly, I liked TPP. It's definitely not what people expected, and not for everyone though.
 
paz

raped and forced into sex with a child. has bomb stuffed up her vagina.

quiet

is sexualized in every way possible and isn't allowed to speak

strangelove

is basically buried alive by her husband
or chooses to go out that way? i forget. whatever.

fuck off kojima
 
Really dumb question, but I just assumed that it was XOF who was trying to kill you at the beginning of the game... but then, why does Man on Fire/Psycho Mantis kill all the soldiers?
 
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paz

raped and forced into sex with a child. has bomb stuffed up her vagina.

quiet

is sexualized in every way possible and isn't allowed to speak

strangelove

is basically buried alive by her husband
or chooses to go out that way? i forget. whatever.

fuck off kojima

Don't forget that some soldier tried to rape Quiet after attempting to drown her before the start of her last mission!
 
Someone's gonna have to explain how to play this mission "cleanly" without being a huge pain in the ass.
Use D dog to mark her or ur binoculars and use the xray vision. You just have to walk out of your hiding spot (by moving left or right) while constantly aiming at her and shoot her with the sniper. You will shoot faster than her with this procedure.
It took me to get this procedure, but it turned out to be quite easy.
 
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