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SPOILER: Metal Gear Solid V Spoiler Thread | Such a lust for conclusion, T-WHHOOOO
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NoctisVsStar
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A new MG game without the snakes is perhaps what the series need moving forward or reboot everything with a brand new take.
Messypandas
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So I wanted to go back an S rank all my missions. Opened up mission 2, previous B rank. No kills, no alerts, did all the sub-goals even extracted 2 of the Skulls. Came out with a C rank. Are these timed?
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Well, I know what's being left on overnight this weekend.
Dombrowski
is responsible for the well-being of this island.
One, invade a base and that's it. And the hardest most boring one is the "complete all mission tasks."
Zombie James
Banned
Heavy Rain 2 starring Huey.
Tribes of Trusty
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What's best ? Doing all side ops to unlock everything then main ops to S rank them all ?
Time is the biggest factor. Run to Miller, call the chopper in the town he's in so the skulls don't even pop and fly away.
It's like making Mario without Mario though. The games have never focused on the Metal Gear as much as the players in the grand game of chess.
They can make more, but I don't quite see what the point is, unless Ubisoft never makes a Blacklist follow-up.
Haunted
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Maybe it was a more invasive, experimental treatment nine years before they perfected it, who the fuck knows.
Certainly not Kojima.
Although out of all the many plot failings this is the most innocuous.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Skullface didn't even know about the parasites until he was transferred to Africa, which was after GZ.
Chico's chest jack is nothing but stupid bullshit.
Spoiler thread 3 title should be The Man Who Trolled The World
NoctisVsStar
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The Man Who Trolled The World |Kojima never lost control|
Love Deterrence
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Everything worked fine for the first 31 episodes or so of this one.
But then
Chapter Two is made up of Chapter One Missions with modifiers (FLOP, haha, Zadornov Search Missions are forever king)
Episode 46 ENDS THE GAME butwaitthere'smore
Here are some random cassette tapes that open more plot holes than close out any overarching story
Zero isn't bad lol #CipherNotCipher
Honestly, if the game had ended at 31, I would have been fine with it. Just have the last strand go up in flame and be done with it. Leaves things open sure, but Chapter Two opened up wounds like Paz in med bay. I mean Episode 51 would make me forgive soooo much of it, if not all - the game would have had a final boss in callback form to MGS1 in what looked to be an awesome setting (African island with deadly booby traps set up my twelve-year-olds). But nope.
This is not a classic game, it is an assic game.
It's not a jack. It's a hole. He was tortured.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
This whole "Chapter 3: PEACE" thing reminds me exactly of what happened with another Hideo Kojima game - "Snatcher".
The original releases only featured a 2 act experience, however with the PC Engine version, Kojima added a 3rd act:
I hope that the same thing happens regarding MGSV - as in the 3rd chapter "PEACE" is added back as a patch, DLC or included in an expanded edition in the near future.
[LINK to the full Snatcher article]
The original releases only featured a 2 act experience, however with the PC Engine version, Kojima added a 3rd act:
Originally Posted by Hardcore Gaming 101 said:
I hope that the same thing happens regarding MGSV - as in the 3rd chapter "PEACE" is added back as a patch, DLC or included in an expanded edition in the near future.
[LINK to the full Snatcher article]
akidnamededdy
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Then why the fuck were his headphones plugged into it? Lol I mean if it's just an open wound why didn't he pull the headphone plug out the second he could? He's got it in there the whole time until Skullface gives him the tape and then he pulls it out and plugs it straight into the Walkman.
His headphones were plugged into it
Love Deterrence
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Beats by Quiet
Hellwarden
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I'm not even sure if I want story DLC at this point.
Like the cut content seems like it could have really helped the game's story in some regards, but it doesn't patch up the bullshit.
Like the cut content seems like it could have really helped the game's story in some regards, but it doesn't patch up the bullshit.
EmCeeGramr
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So... who made Venom Snake's arm? The tapes hint that it was possibly Madnar?
Don't you extract the guy who did it for a mission or sideop or something so you can develop arm equipment?
Not Spaceghost
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He was just sticking the headphones in the hole he had, he wasn't hearing anything he was just totally traumatized since they took away his walkman so he plugged it into the hole he had left from torture.
He was broken mentally.
It's never really explained but you do extract a bionics dude who worked on it, I assume it was just reverse engineered from the bionic arm that Zadornov had in peace walker since they say the russians are pros at bionics.
EmCeeGramr
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Yes, as a torture. Remember Skull Face tells him he's "earned it" when he gives him the tape. Likely he wasn't allowed to take it out.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
You extract some random guy in some random mission who worked on the arm. Forget his name. It's actually one of the first set of Afghanistan missions (not a side op).
Once that mission is complete you can modify the arm.
Yeah I have no idea what Metal Gear is without Snake, Big Boss or even Raiden. V has such good gameplay, but it's so intimately tied to base building and such. Would a sequel to V still have Mother base? Open world with outposts? Or more like classic MGS?
Making the next MG game isn't just incredibly difficult from a story perspective, the gameplay is totally up in the air as well.
They should just do more MGR!!
Love Deterrence
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It was a scientist you rescue early on in the game! Can't seem to recall his name, but he's found in one of the bigger Afghanistan compounds in a room you have to lockpick your way into...
EmCeeGramr
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Yeah, I remember now. I was just going back and listening to the earliest tapes and Ocelot makes a big deal out of how Snake's arm was a super special thing made by some genius on the other side of the Iron Curtain and I got so caught up in thinking "huh, that sounds kinda like Madnar, maybe that's why they were sure to grab him for the first game after they lost Huey," that I totally forgot that no it was a just an extractable guy.
Yeah a "genius" with B-level engineering skills.
I had assumed that it was some kind of mental breakdown on Chico's part, possibly even a form of self-punishment for getting caught and giving into torture. But this makes more sense.
razzmahtazz
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Conceptualized 3 other games while working on this one, was probably heavily consulted for those to. Rising, PT and Silent Hills. Dude was probably beat.
Love Deterrence
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God dude, what a waste! How they manage to miss out on his inclusion - in a game where people are becoming cyborgs and Walker Gears are being passed out like turkeys from Nino Brown - is baffling. Especially after it was mentioned in the localized version of MG2 that parts of Big Boss' body had been replaced with bionics. Really a missed opportunity.
He was also working on ZOE3, but it's not clear how far that game ever got into development... But yeah, he said long ago that he wanted to work on other projects while developing MGSV - by game's end, it really shows.
He's higher when you redo the mission later.
a very cute dog
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Any way to mod the bona-fide BIG BOSS model into the game? Kind of tired of the horn and the arm and the scars.
CambriaRising
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Does the new one replace the old one? I'd love to kick him off my engineering team.
I also hate how you have to keep C level dudes in the support unit because they are translators. Smh.
I've been using the avatar I created now.
akidnamededdy
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I will accept this only if the rocket arm has blood spray and bone sticking out the back and instead of his usual yell he just screams in pain when you launch it.
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Xpike
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considering mgs2 and 3 both took about 3 years to make i dont know how kojima or konami expected to create a full MGS game on the scale of MGSV in just that time. now whenever the blame is on kojima or konami is up to you.
akidnamededdy
Banned
I didn't bother getting all the tapes in GZ so unless one of them specifically says this is what happened I'm going to stick with the much simpler idea that it's some random bullshit Kojima put in because he thought it was cool and never bothered to explain. It fits the modus operandi for much of TPP's plot too.
What i was thinking.
Even the budget of 80 millions sounds pretty low for an open world with this production values.
I don't remember, i'd have to check.
I would assume as much.
Have you tried doing the knock/lure command when not playing as Snake?
Love Deterrence
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Fanboy in me says Konami, but being realistic, Kojima's name appears on screen well over a hundred times - he's gotta take a chunk of the blame too. It kills me to say it, because I idolize the man. But after waiting for more than five years - coming off of Peace Walker, my second-favorite game of all time, following this game's story towards the end was slightly less torturous than getting a headphone jack put in my chest.
Love Deterrence
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I'm not going to don myself the next Yoji Shinkawa or anything but if you guys want to call me that, I certainly won't dispute it.
Here's to you.
Here's to you.
Yup, it was this one hands down.
The elimination of the 6 targets. I don't quite know why- it just had this sense of urgency once you find the children.
Marty-esque
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Lufwa Valley.
onepiecefan
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Think I agree, I thought Africa would be pretty good after that but that was its peak.
Hmm... there are a few i guess. I thought the infiltration to meet with Skull Face on Mission 30? that was pretty awesome.
The oil field is a good one too, wish it was bigger and more intricate tho.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Code Talker mansion? Yeah. Africa in general > Afghanistan.
Best Afghan level is where these buildings are situated on a hill. Vague but its in Occupation Forces.
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