Messypandas
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The kids escaping alone should have been a cutscene.
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The kids escaping alone should have been a cutscene.
Seems like Kojima really dropped the ball with the story. I don't even know most of the lore well and I can easily see how it could have been way better.
I found that too. It scared the shit out of me considering how spooky that area is.
SandMan2233
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The only thing I can assume, considering his simultaneous acceptance and disillusionment with what he is, is he just accepts remote rockets to the face from Solid Snake to end the convoluted charade that is his life post-Ground Zeroes.
In that way, The Phantom Pain ends on a ridiculously sad note. Poor Venom Snake.
It was intentional? I thought the rat just kinda spawned in the world coincidentally under that box.
Only one character in the entire game "turns into a demon". Somewhat. And it's definitely NOT Snake. Venom Snake is a very chill, calm and rational dude throughout the entire game. He doesn't go evil, he barely gets angry (Or doesn't get angry at all).
So yeah, either Sins of the Father is about another character, or it doesn't fit this freaking game at all.
I find the idea of grandpa Ocelot going into Miller's cabin to kill a blind old man missing an arm and a leg really hilarious for some reason. Too bad Kojima Productions is gone, because this sounds like it would make a great Secret Theater clip in some future re-release.
Now THAT would be a scene worth seeing!
NinjamicWZ
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Too bad Kojima Productions is gone, because this sounds like it would make a great Secret Theater clip in some future re-release.
omg the true tragedy is no possibility of a secret theater
MarcoZombieCannon
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The Skull Face and Code Talker tape had this really cool sounding confrontation that I really wish was animated :/
90% of the tapes in this game should've been cutscenes. The other 10% are those fucking Wolbachia tapes by Code Talker, those shouldn't even exist.
Words and deeds.
NinjamicWZ
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Xpike
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no Big Boss had been awake for a period of time, enough to be able to fully use his body by the time XOF comes.
Yes they should. I know "dine wolbachia MALE TO FEMALE" is a new meme but I like the parasite lore.
ShockingAlberto
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Quiet escaping should have been, if not a cutscene, then at least something.
I just finished putting Huey out to sea, loaded in the ACC, and immediately Ocelot went "You probably already noticed, but Quiet's gone."
I turned the camera and no one was in the helicopter. Like, what the fuck, what a weird way to tell me.
Code Talkers tapes are the best part of the game.
PAX HAMBURGANA. Should be a fully featured cutscene.
Probably a bug, but based on where the box was placed and where the rat spawns it's probably not too difficult to reproduce.
So Kojima was being deliberately misleading with the marketing of the game? Even the launch trailer looked to me like it was implying Snake would go through hell of war or whatever and take on Skullface's ideals and this was going to be a tragic story.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
COPULATING. COPULATION.
ShockingAlberto
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This is how I beat her.
Though I kind of hate how it keeps working. Once you hold The End up once and let him get away, he starts looking behind him occasionally.
NinjamicWZ
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I like it too. You basically get the gist of how selective reproduction works as soon as you realize what they are, so the explanation's not needed, but why not? I knew as soon as I got through listening to some of Code Talkers tapes it would just be reduced to another "nanomachines" meme anyway, no matter how much they went out of their way to provide some thorough fantasy plausibility and grounding for the idea.
I chuckled at the part where it infers that music superstars with millions of hypnotized groupies are the apex of the vocal cord parasites amplifying courtship to serve their own needs.
I dunno about 90%, most of them are fine as codec-like tapes. What is a real crime though, is that Kaz's Hamburger subplot wasn't fleshed out enough! Imagine if we not only got cutscenes of those tapes, but that after each one, Kaz would give you silly side ops to gather new ingredients, or to hijack a materials container with "high quality beef", or to extract a "food specialist", etc. That alone would be better than 90% of the sideops in the game!
I like how ridiculous they got. Especially when it started becoming evolution fan fiction about the dawn of mankind, and the dinosaurs, and whatever. I just laughed and rolled with it. Fun times.
ThatArcher
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Now that you say that, I agree. VS got through a hell of a lot and should have been able to beat SS.
This is my first Metal Gear game but I have pretty much studied the plot of all the games before I started.
I mention this because I am enjoying trying to connect this game to all the other games while everyone else seems to hate it since they actually got through the previous games?
SandMan2233
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This I agree with. Hell, Skull Face's conversations with Zero and Code-Talker were the ENTIRE framing device for The Phantom Pain. I'd have much rather seen it played out in a cutscene.
Plus, I'd have more than "Whoooooooo?!" to visually remember him by.
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Xpike
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yup, and not in a good MGS2 way either. He simply showed every cutscene in the game but framing them as Big Boss going nuclear.
Probably the funniest thing in the entire series IMO. I like how they heavily insinuate that Kaz cares more about the burger shop that DDs and is skimming from the organisation and forcing the R&D team to work on it rather than snake's orders.
ShockingAlberto
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Things that absolutely should have been cutscenes and strung together better:
- Every interrogation of Huey and Eli
- Revelations about Skull Face, Mantis, and Man on Fire
- Ocelot's briefing
The rest was fine as just voice acting, but that stuff was all pretty important.
- Every interrogation of Huey and Eli
- Revelations about Skull Face, Mantis, and Man on Fire
- Ocelot's briefing
The rest was fine as just voice acting, but that stuff was all pretty important.
Messypandas
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The side ops should have been about Boss getting down.
SandMan2233
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I wanna play that game.
NinjamicWZ
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YES! This, so much.
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Xpike
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Ocelot's briefing should've been static images with the VA over it, ala Zero's briefing and Campbell's briefing in MGS3 and 1.
MarcoZombieCannon
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...the enemy dance floor
ShockingAlberto
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The enemy sniper...
American imperialistic burgers prevent the Diné from copulating.
EmCeeGramr
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"Father picked me but I got all the recessive genes!" - A fake Big Boss met him for a few weeks and nobody said anything about bad genes
"I'm gonna kill you Patriots [said in Natasha's book in MGS2, when Snake is knocked out after beating REX]" - The Patriots are just computers; in fact, now it's retroactively established that "The Patriots" was only the name of the computers and the people were called Cipher
I like to imagine Ocelot having to keep reminding himself whenever Liquid's around to keep pretending that Big Boss totally had a horn and a robot arm whenever it comes up.
EmCeeGramr
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I liked the part where Code Talker explains that the Navajo word for beauty calls to mind different mental images than the English word because of their differing cultural contexts, and my immediate thought was like "what, like, a beautiful landscape, because that's not that diff-" and then he instantly says it means like a beautiful landscape.
Haunted
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For a game with that much dialogue, it's puzzling how no one noticed how often some bits are repeated.
Yes, I just destroyed another fucking anti-air radar thing, stop being so incredulous about it.
edit: also, is it "he's coming, too?" or "he's coming to?"
I want a bonus scene showing Foxhound members from MGS1 sitting in a meeting room reminiscing about Big Boss, and Ocelot pulling shit out of his ass to try and cover up the inconsistencies.
So you're not really playing as Big Boss, you're the medic from GZ.
Well, I'm a bit surprised. TPP didn't really have that overly top ending like say, 4 or 2 did, but it didn't really have an awesome pay off like 3. Snake went full Kurt Russell again for the ending shots on the bike, which I loved.
It's sad, in a lot of ways, that this is the final MGS by Kojima. I actually still have the Quiet mission to do but I don't want to let go of her as a buddy.
So there's a deleted cutscene right? Anyone got the yt link for it?
Well, I'm a bit surprised. TPP didn't really have that overly top ending like say, 4 or 2 did, but it didn't really have an awesome pay off like 3. Snake went full Kurt Russell again for the ending shots on the bike, which I loved.
It's sad, in a lot of ways, that this is the final MGS by Kojima. I actually still have the Quiet mission to do but I don't want to let go of her as a buddy.
So there's a deleted cutscene right? Anyone got the yt link for it?
Mr. Smiley
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Subtitles say it's the former.
The Quiet mission is absolutely essential to capping off the character arc in the game. The conclusion is better and more satisfying than 46.
Episode 51 can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3e0LoFh8ew
Muchas gracias mate.
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