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SPOILER: Metal Gear Solid V Spoiler Thread | Such a lust for conclusion, T-WHHOOOO
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This would be funnier than the jeep ride if it was in the game
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FantasticMrFoxdie
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Dick Justice
Banned
Shorthair Snake is still the best looking.
He was also the coolest as a character. He was kind of an abrasive dick and it worked.
He was still a dick towards Raiden in MGS2, which was pretty funny (e.g. telling him to get over it after letting him get captured and tortured).
only a minute long. did you rike it?
Woa... i didn't recall this. But its right. Kojima giving all the answers beforehand.
El Phenicks
Neo Member
It bothers me that Portable Ops had a better story than this. Am I alone thinking this?! It's like Kojima and Konami deliberately shit on non Cyborg Ninja Gray Fox on purpose.
I'm waiting for some sort of free True Ending DLC as we got for Mass Effect 3, which btw for me is a mirror of disappointment, even the end mission ( 45 ) were the same, they just threw you everything and expected you to die a ton, it was such a cheap artificial difficulty bs...
The truly interesting moments were the revelation and the possible aftermath, the possibility that Ocelot or Kaz were secret traitors, and the finality of watching Solid Snake as a child\teen.
I feel robbed of the true ending I was promised...
Also fuck parasites ...
I'm waiting for some sort of free True Ending DLC as we got for Mass Effect 3, which btw for me is a mirror of disappointment, even the end mission ( 45 ) were the same, they just threw you everything and expected you to die a ton, it was such a cheap artificial difficulty bs...
The truly interesting moments were the revelation and the possible aftermath, the possibility that Ocelot or Kaz were secret traitors, and the finality of watching Solid Snake as a child\teen.
I feel robbed of the true ending I was promised...
Also fuck parasites ...
Mr. Smiley
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fuckin ocelot hit me with that hypnosis and made me forget
Shorthair Snake is still the best looking.
He was also the coolest as a character. He was kind of an abrasive dick and it worked.
Goddamn man, I really want a Fox Engine version of Solid Snake in MGSV. Just look at this handsome bastard!
DLC please
Portable Ops wasn't written by Kojima, so it makes sense that it would have a better story. There are things in Portable Ops I dislike, like the revival of Sokolov, but it it's coherent and has interesting characters (Python, Cunningham, Elisa). It feels like a Metal Gear Solid game, and its events are there to develop its characters.
It also has a neat way of revealing Zero having become 'evil' - the whole reason Big Boss is imprisoned is that Zero, and by association him, are suspected of treason. You go through the game with the intention of clearing your and Zero's name, but it turns out that he was actually caught doing some shit to create the Patriots and you unwittingly protect him.
el_colibri
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FantasticMrFoxdie
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The Giant Bomb spoilercast is pretty great. Good discussion on both sides of Hayters and Strangelovers
I guess you can call it a Phantom 'Pain'
The Silver
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Goddamn man, I really want a Fox Engine version of Solid Snake in MGSV. Just look at this handsome bastard!
DLC please
the dude is massive in that render, must've been on the juice to quickly get back in shape after drinking in Alaska for so long
El Phenicks
Neo Member
Exactly, it had a full arc, with twists and secrets motivations, a final boss with relatable motivations, a mech for you to destroy and after credits came a cliffhanger revelation, in other words, a proper Metal Gear...
The joke was on me for thinking at the time it was an inferior game as it wasn't written by Kojima. After MGS 4 being the fiasco it was for me, I lost all hope for a MGS surpassing the first 3.
The joke was on me for thinking at the time it was an inferior game as it wasn't written by Kojima. After MGS 4 being the fiasco it was for me, I lost all hope for a MGS surpassing the first 3.
Yeah, I never forgot about this. Kojima shows entirely too much of his games in his trailers.
RSB
Banned
I don't care if it makes sense or not, removing such a big gameplay element from the game is just incredibly dumb.
Unknown One
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Wasn't he kidnapped and forced into going into Shadow Moses shortly after the revolt?
Unknown One
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How did Miller not know? He was there when they were trying to revive Big Boss. He would know if Big Boss have a shrapnel on his head or not. It's a big event. It's not something you would forget.
crazyrabbits
Banned
Fridge logic. The more you think about the plot, the dumber it gets.
Sahelanthropus still fits into the canon. It was a failed piece of tech that had to be dramatically scaled down to even work in deployment, after it's destruction at Kingdom of Flies. I feel it's implied it's remains became Metal Gear Rex, with Hal following in his father's footsteps, not realizing how much of a horrible person his dad was. With how much of a shitty scientist he's revealed to be in later games, it's interesting that all of Hal's accomplishments (Rex, Stealth Camo, and possibly Mark 2) were all based on his dad's ideas and research. I like that Sahelanthropus had to be scaled down more to be properly functional. I find it amusing that Big Boss and Venom ended up not able to reproduce Huey's inovations in metal gear technology. (Even though Granin created the concept in the first place)
Kevin Shields
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Man, reading 1984 again, Kojima had a boner for this book. Newspeak, doublethink, rewriting the past and building a legend are themes he was definitely referencing. Doublethink- believing two contradictory things at the same time is all over phantom pain.
SnakeLinkSonic
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Goddamn man, I really want a Fox Engine version of Solid Snake in MGSV. Just look at this handsome bastard!
DLC please
Someone should get pro with the character creator then upload their settings. Would solve the "no gray fox!" problem and the "no solid snake!" problem.
Young Snake facecamo from MGS4 was great.
Except the parts where he still acts like an old man and rubs his sore back. But at least his face looks young!
MAX PAYMENT
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Goddamn man, I really want a Fox Engine version of Solid Snake in MGSV. Just look at this handsome bastard!
DLC please
If there was a modern version of MGS1 solid snake it would be all I use.
Why is there not models of old snake, mgs3 snake, raiden, etc?
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I can kind of see where he is coming from. Ocelot doesn't have to hide under a ruse this time around. He didn't have to be someone he's not which is why he's awfully relatively friendly. The one time you see OG Ocelot come back is in the Huey Interrogation tapes.
This is true until of course its revealed in the Truth Tapes he wasn't rusing everyone else because he already rused himself previously by brainwashing himself.
The First Law of MGS Physics Is: An Ocelot can only ruse itself.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
You might have a point. Venom Snake creates war victims by participating in the mercenary business while he also saves war orphans and tries to give them back something resembling a shot at life. He has to solve problems he keeps creating.
Ocelot talks about the war economy like its going to be some big awful thing in the future (which it is as MGS4 shows) but its like hello you're contributing to that business for the entire duration of the story.
Unfortunately I'm not sure Kojima wanted to actually leave the player with any ambiguity with regards to Diamond Dogs. He really was portraying them as some sort of ridiculous objective good guys. They never do anything particularly bad.
SnakeLinkSonic
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The one person who does do bad things get kicked off the oil platform like a diseased mutant.
Forget Big Boss's downfall.
We have Huge Huey's heel-turn.
Kevin Shields
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Yea besides being mercenaries that have no allegiance to anyone except war is kinda messed up. They aregood and evil like the original Godfather was good and evil.
Razgriz-Specter
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At the very least the theme from 3/4 should have been included.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhRw3nE67aw
Soundtrack was really forgettable besides "The Man Who Sold The World"
Unknown One
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Thanks for the reply, but I dislike everything about it.
Nope, not going to accept this explanation or any explanation on this game. A game set in the past with tech more advanced than anything in MGS1-2 barring Soliton Radar.
The stupid shit has a sword that causes spikes to pop out of the ground.
Fuck this Metal Gear Retconlanthropus.
Excuse moi? "Take on Me?" "Maneater?" "Spin Me Around Like A Record Baby?"
akidnamededdy
Banned
I mean...the thing didn't work, though. Any time it even moved in this game, Mantis was literally puppeteering it with mind powers. So there's that at least.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Those are good but licensed and optional,
Man Who Sold The World while licensed was used in a major way and immediately stuck in my head.
But then we tumble down the rabbit hole of Mantis retcons.
Unknown One
Member
It functioned, just wasn't controllable. The tech worked or there wouldn't be a shitty boss battle.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Yeah I think the only character that gives Kojima a solid snake close to the one he has for Big Boss would be Mantis.
I don't really get what you're saying with this. If it's not controllable, then it doesn't work, right? The sword whip thing is pretty ridiculous though but I mean, the Skulls pull machine guns out of thin air and make their own body armor, we're way past ridiculous already.
The last part is kinda fuzzy. Everything we see about Diamond Dogs does make seem like good guys, for as much as group hired mercenaries can be but there's also the scene where Huey gets thrown out. He's hardly any moral authority considering what's he's done, but it's not completely wrong either.
The thing is I'm not sure if that's Kojima being self aware or if it's yet another piece about propaganda shaping perception. Though the latter as a way to absolve BB and Outer Haven in MG1/MG2 falls apart when characters in the universe are disgusted by BB by seeing it first hand instead of what I guess is Huey's warped portrayal. I'm still leaning more to the latter just because Kojima really loves BB.
The game's actual theme A Phantom Pain is phenomenal, but criminally underused. Listen to this shit turned up, it's incredible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYu0xndc0m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYu0xndc0m8
It was shadow tech that was destroyed and all traces erased. The rest of the world had to start over from square one, or what could be recovered. That makes total sense to me. (GOP and Solid Eye are pretty advanced tech, as are nanomachines and metal gear ray. Codec, Soliton Radar, VR Simulations, AI Technology, geckos, and cybernetics are all very advanced in the future timeline)
You could probably explain the spikes with vibrations causing the earth to hollow out and burst out or whatever. (At least we got an explanation of "y'know maybe magic is real" for psycho mantis and the cobra unit. I appreciate that)
loki 16
Member
I really like the ost. Some people complain its not good. But i disagree. Its very good. Goes well with the themes of the game, and its kinda retro and fitting to the stage of 1985.
Unlocking some of this tapes and listening to them while infiltrating really sets it up well.
The one thing that guts me besides Kojima ruining Big Boss, is that Solid Snake had been ultimately screwed out of starring in another game. There was never a *true* sequel to Metal Gear Solid. MGS 2's Snake was a guest character and in MGS4, we had Old Snake.Shorthair Snake is still the best looking.
He was also the coolest as a character. He was kind of an abrasive dick and it worked.
Besides Ghost Babel and AC!D, I hate how this iteration of Snake never made another appearance.
This. I also wanted to go Nuclear the entire game, but it never happened (really loved that 2014 E3 trailer).
Unknown One
Member
All traces were not erased. Major players still lived prior to MGS1 including Huey. Ocelot, Miller, Huey, Psycho Mantis, and Liquid Snake knew about it as well. It not being explained is a weak excuse trying to make sense of the plot because past games did not mention anything about it. It makes for a convenient excuse despite witnesses seeing it in the past and the napalming of an island. Kojima writes a game at a time and have no grievances in retconning.
MGS5 in a nutshell, it doesn't need to exist.
MGS5 in a nutshell, it doesn't need to exist.
onepiecefan
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The GDC 2013 trailer song would have been cool aswell.
Stealth?
Haunted
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