Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER

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I really hope they do the Yun/Yang thing letting you play as Nadeshiko instead of Mika.
Me too.

Just give her a unique intro/ending and some win quotes, and have the announcer say her name. Other than that they can have her exactly like Mika. That would be a cool unlockable.
 
(Please Lord, don't let them ignore my stage speculation post again for the third time...I really feel I might be on to something...sigh...)

(Also, please don't let them ban me for this...)
 
I think a USA/New York stage is pretty likely if we agree that the character art shows different sides/elements of stages that will be in the game. I speculated about the how and why's of this "shared stage theory" quite a few pages ago but since nobody seemed to have picked up on it then, I'll post it again.

My "shared stage theory", in short, is that all stages will be shared by 2 characters (or more later) and that they will fit both (at least on one side of them). I come to this speculative conclusion based on the official character art and what is shown in the background of them. Ryu and Karin's art, for instance, both show different parts of the Japan stage, as we now can see (Ryu = left side, Karin = right side). Vega and Cammy's art show the London stage. Bison and Necalli might show the same unrevealed stage based on the temple visible in both of their art (hidden, in Bison's case). Alex is likely to inhabit the New York stage shown in Ken's art. Etc etc.

In other words: I deem it highly likely that all the character art shows (A) which stages we can expect and (B) who will (eventually) be in the game to share them.

Here's my list of stage elements/parts (as grouped by characters that might fit a stage and by what is found in shown stages so far) again to help us speculate which stages we can expect and who goes into them:

Possible proof 1 of shared stage theory
- Cammy -> shows clock at a train station -> is found in the middle/right side of the London stage.
- Vega -> shows some glass windows, a half-round one in particular -> this seems to be the roof + left side of the London stage.

Possible proof 2 of shared stage theory
- Ryu -> shows an old Japanese temple with statue, Mt. Fuji and the moon -> all are present on the left side of the new Japan stage.
- Karin -> shows Japanese style bridge with moon and a building - all are present on the left side of the new Japan stage as well.
- Ibuki (due to the ninja on the left)?

Possible proof 3 of shared stage theory
- Bison -> shows a Bison statue, a honeycomb-like structure and what appears to be an Asian temple of sorts in front of the moon -> not found in any stage so far but I have a feeling it will connect to Necalli's stage due to the temple.
- Necalli -> shows a cliff side and an Asian looking (?) temple in the background -> not found in any stage yet but it could be linked to Bison's stage.
- Juri (assuming she will be hunting down Bison still)?

Incomplete pairings that might come to fruition (if we include likely DLC characters)
- Ken -> shows a street lined with New York-ish/Colonial style (?) office buildings and cars -> not seen in any stage yet.
- Alex?

- Chun-li -> shows a Chinese restaurant with columns and some neon signs -> is found on left side of the Bustling Side Street stage (China).
- Fei Long (going by the signs on the busses)?
- Yun/Yang?

- Nash -> shows those Egyptian looking Illuminati-ish statues -> they are found to the right of the Forgotten Waterfall stage in an inaccessible(?) section.
- Urien (Illuminati connection)?

- R. Mika -> shows wrestling ring with Japanese text -> not seen in any stage yet.
- Zangief/Alex?

- Birdie -> shows a tube station with a Colombian Roast logo -> not found on the London Stage despite the toilet on the left side being similar to Birdie's Alpha stage and him being English; maybe it will be featured in a new stage?
- Oro/Sean?

- Rashid -> shows a desert and Dubai-like city -> not found in any stage yet unfortunately.
- Urien (going by his 2nd impact stage)?

- Laura -> no art yet -> assumedly connected to Brazil stage with the tram, favellas and soccer statue on the mountain.
- Blanka/Sean?

- Zen -> no art yet -> perhaps connected to a new India stage?
- Dhalsim?

Anyone willing to go along with this?

Fake edit: if anyone is able to add the character art I speak of, which I can't do on my device, that would be great. That way we can investigate them even more closely with this shared stage theory in mind to see who might go where.
EH did a post on this- Birdie's background is actually the London stage, its the far right hand portion of it, its just rarely visible on screen.
 
EH did a post on this- Birdie's background is actually the London stage, its the far right hand portion of it, its just rarely visible on screen.

Ok, noted. I must have missed that post due to this thread moving so fast. Could you perhaps quote it for me or give the post no.?

On topic: Birdie's art might make the shared stage theory stronger in a way, with 3 characters sharing the stage and all of them having art that shows a section or part of that stage.

At the same time it might also mean that we won't even get 8 stages for 16 characters. That, or that some of the 8 stages might only house one character for now (like the hopefully still to be unveiled other 3 stages for the 4 newcomers).
 
Inside info:

-There will be another character reveal before Brazil (So before October 10th)
-There will be around 10 characters in the 2nd Beta (So maybe Rashid, maybe not)
 
Inside info:

-There will be another character reveal before Brazil (So before October 10th)
-There will be around 10 characters in the 2nd Beta (So maybe Rashid, maybe not)

I was really hoping Karin and Rashid would be in. It's going to be very dull playing the Beta without them.
 
Inside info:

-There will be another character reveal before Brazil (So before October 10th)
-There will be around 10 characters in the 2nd Beta (So maybe Rashid, maybe not)

If this is true , it seems an SF2 vet is more likely.

There is no way they will reveal Alex or urien on a random Tuesday.

A reveal like that will definitely be at an event like Nycc.
 
Yea I wanted to try more Rashid too, but here is to hoping!

I'm more interested in Karin as I'm maining her for sure. Rashid looks like he'll end up a sub for me though. Regardless the more we get to try out the better.

There is no way they will reveal Alex or urien on a random Tuesday.

For SF3: 3rd strike vets, the day Capcom graces your game with Alex and Urien will be the most important day of the game's prerelease build up. But for Capcom, it's Tuesday.
 
Why in the world would it be banned here?



No. Only games that ever got banned here are GTA and God of War.
Pretty sure it's more than just GTA and GoW, though usually no one bother to enforce the ban which is why a lot of games get by unnoticed even when banned. According to wikipedia, the most recent one was The Order 1886 which was banned in UAE, Kuwait and KSA due to nudity(!!), but there's no mention of The Witcher 3 getting banned due to nudity!

Also, here's a funny one from UAE's list:
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Banned likely due to suggestive and revealing outfits on some characters.
Note that none of its sequels got banned!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games#United_Arab_Emirates

SFV wont get banned though because it has a local distributor who's adding Arabic language, if it didn't get past who ever handle the banning, it will get censored in order to do so.
 
If they ever censor our local version I'll just import a NA copy. In fact I might do that anyway. Our store is way over priced and I expect I'll buy a lot of DLC. Or maybe I'll just get it on PC if there's no cross save between the two versions as it will stay with me longer that way.

And I'm surprised by that list. Some of the banned games were just displayed in the open so I didn't think they were supposed to be banned. Dark Souls was the biggest surprise for me.
 
Inside info:

-There will be another character reveal before Brazil (So before October 10th)
-There will be around 10 characters in the 2nd Beta (So maybe Rashid, maybe not)
So either we are getting 3 reveals back to back or no character at NYCC? I wonder what else they have to show there if that's the case.
 
I hope Ono throws a curveball and reveals Yun with Genei Jin as his V-Trigger.

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Where is this info coming from?

Capcom representative at Call of Ragnarok this weekend. I have to point out that ofc he isreall vague answering, but he does use "I am pretty sure" about this info. And he said he knew everything about characters coming etc.
 
Thanks for the info SimSim. Really hope Rashid makes it to the next beta, otherwise I can't wait to face an army of flowchart Kens with my flowchart Ryu :P
Or I could give Vega a try, he looks fun in this game.
 
So either we are getting 3 reveals back to back or no character at NYCC? I wonder what else they have to show there if that's the case.

No, I think Laura will be announced maybe a day or two prior to BGS. Which probably confirms that we are getting a NYCC character and they want a couple of days between both announcements.
 
Rashid stuff:

He definitley seems like he is built to frame trap, and land crush counters.
His crush counters are his st.hp, which is a quick cancelable chop that causes massive hit stun, and his st.hk which is a backflip hop that goes over lows and causes the opponent to fly up in to the air, where you can follow up with uppercut or a sweep etc.

He does seem to struggle against characters with good normals, as he doesn't have an easy way to start momentum. His forward +mp is a forward moving 2 hitting slash, but it leaves him at slightly negative. On block you will get stuffed if you try to challenge the opponent's jab with our own. First of the 2 hits are cancelable. On hit, you can not combo or link out of the second hit, but now they have to respect your follow up.

His standing mk is a great spacing tool, but not cancelable.

his lp slash (qcf + lp) is a good poke that leaves you at slight disadvantage on block (If you mash it it will be very punishable) and positive on hit. If you mash throw after hitting with this, they will be thrown if they try to push a button. This means it is not more than +3 on hit.

st.mp is a great normal to cancel out of, but I think it is also a move that you can frame trap with on block. It moves him slightly forward, but most good buttons from other players will beat it, so it's hard to get in to range to use this.

His fireballs are terrible as a zoning tool sadly. The opponent can see the start up, dash forward, then jump over and still Rashid has not recovered. I think it is meant to be used in strings so that the opponent has to block it and you will have frame advantage, or get hit if they try to jump away. Hk tornado can be comboed out of with jabs, but this doesn't work mid screen. Ex tornado can be comboed out of with st.mp. Thus st.hp/c.hp xx ex tornado, st.mp works.

His vtrigger has a lot of potential, and even if you can combo in to it from st.mp (Or maybe you have to use a heavy move don't remember) I think it is meant to be done from far, to limit your opponent and to find a way to get in.

The vtrigger alters the momentum of every forward moving move that rashid has, and makes them safer in a lot of the cases. Examples:

If Rashid jumps through it, he will reach the opponent on the other sideof the screen in a flash, and the same goes for his vskill flip

If rashid does a slash through it, the movements gets bigger and he is safer, and it moves full screen fast.

If rashid vtrigger rolls through: full screen in a flash, but can be hit out of this easily.

if he does standing hk same thing: full screen crush counter baby!

forward+hp: full screen fast overhead, but punishable on blovk still I think?!

The best one though: his tatsu: flies full screen in a flash, beats lows, and because of the vtrigger Rashid gets sucked back to the other side of the screen again behind the tornado, so safe on block and in the position to do another one! He can do 3 or 4 of these before the tornado runs out.

forward + mp moves him forward further, but not full screen and not so fast.

I might be underestimating the frame advantage Rashid might get form the moves done thorugh vtrigger as it was hard to test.


All in all Rashid seems like an aggressive oriented character (Not zoning as I originally hoped for a little), but he does seem to lack the tools to get in safely. I might be bad though, but his moves seems to get him close but at disadvantage, and his vskills are mostly anti projectile (his flip is great against fireballers, where you flip and react with hk/2x kick) if they throw a fireball, or lk to cancel it if they don't throw anything).

Edit: Just saw some footage from Karin build, and his c.mk seems to have much more range, so that will help him a lot!!
-Other thing I just noticed: His roll goes through attacks now too, and in the build I had he barely made it through projectiles!
 
Oh wow. Hope it's true that we'll have an expanded roster for the next beta period. Not just to try other characters, but that also means that it would be an updated build with some balance changes implemented.

...but you know it's gonna be Kens everywhere.
 
Oh wow. Hope it's true that we'll have an expanded roster for the next beta period. Not just to try other characters, but that also means that it would be an updated build with some balance changes implemented.

...but you know it's gonna be Kens everywhere.
I know if i get in the beta and Mikas in it im gonna be playing nothing but Mika
maybe a few rounds of Roo
 
Oh wow. Hope it's true that we'll have an expanded roster for the next beta period. Not just to try other characters, but that also means that it would be an updated build with some balance changes implemented.

...but you know it's gonna be Kens everywhere.

Nope, it's gonna be Mikas everywhere!
 
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