Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and walk your lazy ass to another city if you want to drive.
Alabama to stop issuing drivers licenses in counties w/75% black registered voters
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foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
No seriously, guys am I reading this thread title in 2015
Banana Aeon
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Well I'm not going to go that far, but every republican that I met that wasn't openly racism, kinda struggled in explaining why their openly racism base, policies, and leaders weren't openly racism. I always would ask why they supported a collection of politicians who's main goal in life is fucking over women, minorities, and the poor, and they never could give me an answer.
I'm not going to say being a Republican makes you racist, but it means you support racism, and I don't think that's good.
The more things change...
TheLostBigBoss
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Yea a good portion of the US obesity epidemic
From last year:
Collier and those who undoubtedly support him in the Legislature have shifted resources AWAY from providing driver's licenses into additional law enforcement.
So not only do the majority black counties no longer get to apply for new licenses, but they will face increased law enforcement presence. I'm frankly shocked that they couldn't find it in the LEO budget somewhere to be able to continue to run these 31 offices.
Wait, no, I'm not shocked.
Collier and those who undoubtedly support him in the Legislature have shifted resources AWAY from providing driver's licenses into additional law enforcement.
So not only do the majority black counties no longer get to apply for new licenses, but they will face increased law enforcement presence. I'm frankly shocked that they couldn't find it in the LEO budget somewhere to be able to continue to run these 31 offices.
Wait, no, I'm not shocked.
fluffydelusions
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How is this even legal?
Jesus that's awful.
Jawmuncher
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This is all kinds of fucked up.
br0ken_shad0w
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I was in favor of Voter ID back when the Republicans were trying to introduce them. But it's their justification and implementation that fucking ruined it. Like what was mentioned in the earlier debates, Europe and Canada has no problems issuing Voter IDs, but Republicans added so many hurdles and restrictions in order to combat a 'certain' voting population that the courts had to step in.
What I said on another forum regarding the Voter ID laws they're trying to pass in Texas:
I mean, as depressing as it sounds, are you surprised? Alabama is in the thread title, after all.
According to the supreme court, racism is gone!
I honestly don't know what to say... except that the original article calling for a Justice Department Investigation is absolutely 100% correct.
I don't know why you're surprised. Didn't we have a thread about a secret prison site just for blacks somewhere in America earlier this year?
This is a good point. I'm just not sure you can directly correlate the two events (voter ID law/shuttering of offices) as a conspiratorial situation. As stated in the article in the OP, the end result is still the same and therefore unacceptable. I just wish we didn't (as a society) always jump to immediate conclusions with accusations attached to things. It weakens the message.
So the question is, how does society ensure people that want to vote have access to do so? Are state IDs unattainable now without major inconvenience?
*edit - a driver's license is not a state ID. It appears this only affects those needing a license. For the longest time I had both a state ID card and a license. I'm not seeing how this is prohibitive from a voting standpoint if these offices can still issue a state ID.
Banana Aeon
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Post racial society brehs.
Davey Cakes
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Okay, I have to ask...
Who said that the parties are the same?
Who said that the parties are the same?
I'd be in favor of Voter ID if the burden was 100% on the state to get you the ID. Fucking find you and get you the ID no matter the cost to the state. If you're going to require that to vote, then you can't require any sort of work or pay from the citizen, in my opinion.
Personally I think that's probably a waste of taxpayer money, since actual voter fraud isn't really a thing, but I'll spend it if it cut off an avenue of Republicans disenfranchising people.
Gordon Shumway
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The North shall rise again!!
Banana Aeon
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Folks with a smidge of guilt that they support racists, but not enough self respect to stop supporting racists.
Snkfanatic
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What the shit is this Alabama?? Disgusting
Don't worry to the people implementing this that's really only 3%
RoadHazard
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How the fuck does this happen in a first-world country in 2015? Guess the US simply isn't one, at least not all of it.
Banana Aeon
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Yes, they raised the price, and now say that the amount of budget loss now negates the earnings raised off of the raised prices, putting them back at about the same level.
Poor State is Poor, Politicians continue to do the same thing they've always done.
The States have very little federal oversight when it comes to budgetary concerns so a slow, measured implementation of Neo-Jim Crow laws would be easily missed until that implementation is complete.
The pieces were all there, we just didn't see the picture until now.
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People that support the Republican Party, but don't want to admit why.
Ziltoidia 9
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I'm guessing this is the region they are trying to hurt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Belt_(region_of_Alabama)
Looks like they are set to gain 1-2 congressional seats from it?
EDIT: Yup, there is one district with a Democrat in it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama's_congressional_districts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Belt_(region_of_Alabama)
Looks like they are set to gain 1-2 congressional seats from it?
EDIT: Yup, there is one district with a Democrat in it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama's_congressional_districts
Orbis Tabula
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lol
I chuckled and snorted.
I'm sure some Alabamans who aren't politicians are happy about this news.
br0ken_shad0w
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At the very least the federal level has to standardize what actually is considered an ID, otherwise we'll get bullshit from certain states as this topic shows.
gutter_trash
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Alabama was West Florida originally
Yup. The 'your state issued hunting license counts, but your state issued ID from a state-funded university doesnt' bullshit needs to end.
Stumpokapow
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RE: Canada
Canada had no compulsory ID historically*. Voters were asked to present an ID--including a free universal health care card--but if they couldn't do so, they could present a utility bill. If they couldn't do that, any other person presenting an ID could sign an affidavit to vouch for the ID-less person. Both felons and current prisoners can also vote.
Elections Canada also establishes mobile polling stations that, for example, visit nursing homes or rural communities.
* restrictions have been tightened recently by the Conservative government against the objections of our elections authorities. The stated reason was to crack down on vote fraud, of which there are unsurprisingly no documented cases.
So it is most definitely not enough to say "Canada has voter ID laws and their implementation isn't a partisan ploy or racist!"
Canada had no compulsory ID historically*. Voters were asked to present an ID--including a free universal health care card--but if they couldn't do so, they could present a utility bill. If they couldn't do that, any other person presenting an ID could sign an affidavit to vouch for the ID-less person. Both felons and current prisoners can also vote.
Elections Canada also establishes mobile polling stations that, for example, visit nursing homes or rural communities.
* restrictions have been tightened recently by the Conservative government against the objections of our elections authorities. The stated reason was to crack down on vote fraud, of which there are unsurprisingly no documented cases.
So it is most definitely not enough to say "Canada has voter ID laws and their implementation isn't a partisan ploy or racist!"
theusedversion
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I didn't have a driver's license facility in my County in Tennessee either. Is every County supposed to have one because that's definitely not the case in Tennessee as well?
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That people even have to ask this question is mind blowing to me.
HP_Wuvcraft
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What the fuck, world.
Obviously it's a state by state issue but if a state is forcing people to provide ID in order to vote then they need to make ID services MORE widely available instead of less so.
Where I grew up you'd have to drive 30 miles in order to get to a town with DMV services, for example, but you weren't required to have ID to vote and the DMV services were strategically shut down in racially or politically motivated ways.
I don't think they can prevent states from allowing certain state things and not others. But the federal system can issue a free national ID card type id that would bypass this issue altogether, much like having a passport (federal document) does. A federal ID could not entitle you to anything but vote, and have permanent identification regardless of driving status. Essentially a SSN card with a picture, name and DOB. Doesn't do anything per se, but verify who you are.
theusedversion
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Ah, I gotcha. Because an ID is required to vote in Alabama. Thanks.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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How is that even legal? Thats insane.
Khaos_Knight
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Nice, cut off the majority of potential Democratic votes and ensure a continued Republican dictatorship to protect that glorious Southern Heritage.
diffusionx
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Thanks SCOTUS.
Ray Wonder
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That's not good. That sounds like it should be against laws.
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