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[B-Dubs]

I don't know much about guns, but is there technology being developed so that each gun can be associated with it's owner?

some kind of finger print safety switch, or anything like it?

Yes but gun rights groups are fighting against said technology.

 

[The Artisan]

so this year, there was a shooting at a church, 2 shootings at a theater, a shooting during a news reel, and now this.

 

[Opto]

I'm going to hold off on trusting internet detectives since that doesn't usually end up being right in these kinds of cases

 

[Morts]

I don't know much about guns, but is there technology being developed so that each gun can be associated with it's owner?

some kind of finger print safety switch, or anything like it?

The NRA is severely against this technology.

Gun store owners have even received threats for thinking about carrying guns with such safety mechanisms.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

I don't know much about guns, but is there technology being developed so that each gun can be associated with it's owner?

some kind of finger print safety switch, or anything like it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_gun

 

[mackattk]

I don't know much about guns, but is there technology being developed so that each gun can be associated with it's owner?

some kind of finger print safety switch, or anything like it?

Gun supporters would say that is a clear violation of an individual's freedom.

 

[neurosyphilis]

I don't know much about guns, but is there technology being developed so that each gun can be associated with it's owner?

some kind of finger print safety switch, or anything like it?

I don't know about handguns because I'm not old enough to own them yet (Must be 21), but for rifles/shotguns I can walk in and just buy it.

 

[Tom Nook]

What the fuck.

Seriously! What's going on?

 

[Stet]

I want to be able to own a gun for a few important reasons:

- When shit gets bad and we have riots because there is not enough food or water, I want a way to protect my family. When you have pissed off looters at the door, a baseball bat isn't going to be enough. Prowlers in the night don't concern me as much as a state of emergency where the general public is rattled and partially out of control. Things like the drought in California this year have me a little scared to be honest. Imagine if that's just the tip of the iceberg, how bad can things get?

- The government may need to be challenged one day. I don't see me owning a handgun being the thing that turns the tide and "wins us our freedoms back!" but I don't want to be helpless if things ever take an ugly turn. I realize I'm vastly underpowered but I don't want to be completely helpless.

It's scary that people believe this.

 

[Rush_Khan]

My deepest condolences to all of those families. Such needless deaths.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I don't know much about guns, but is there technology being developed so that each gun can be associated with it's owner?

some kind of finger print safety switch, or anything like it?

Even if that tech comes what is it gonna do for the millions of guns already in circulation?

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I want to be able to own a gun for a few important reasons:

- When shit gets bad and we have riots because there is not enough food or water, I want a way to protect my family. When you have pissed off looters at the door, a baseball bat isn't going to be enough. Prowlers in the night don't concern me as much as a state of emergency where the general public is rattled and partially out of control. Things like the drought in California this year have me a little scared to be honest. Imagine if that's just the tip of the iceberg, how bad can things get?

- The government may need to be challenged one day. I don't see me owning a handgun being the thing that turns the tide and "wins us our freedoms back!" but I don't want to be helpless if things ever take an ugly turn. I realize I'm vastly underpowered but I don't want to be completely helpless.

- I want to be able to hunt for food someday. I think its a valuable life skill and its something I would like to be able to get some experience with. So far I don't, but I'm looking to change that.

Shootings are awful, awful business. I don't know what to do other than tighten up security in public places somehow or at least pass some laws to make the acquisition of a gun a more carefully examined process, but I sure as hell don't want them banned altogether. I believe that genie is out of the bottle and there's no way to collect all the guns out there.



Thank you. There are so many decent people out there who own guns and that is never talked about. Gun owners just get stereotyped as loud-mouthed republican a-holes who drive trucks and have a beef with homosexuals. Its like saying all videogamers are overweight, cheeto-scarfing, mtn dew chugging, zit-faced introverts. If that image can change, I think the image of a gun owner should as well.

and this is all based on paranoia of the end of the world or some uprising against the government which are very unlikely to happen in the next fifty years.

 

[partyphone]

this isn't an either/or situation. we need to fix both gun laws and mental healthcare.

 

[TheJLC]

I don't know much about guns, but is there technology being developed so that each gun can be associated with it's owner?

some kind of finger print safety switch, or anything like it?

Yup, but I think it died it in the water because if you get injured nobody else can use it. And supposedly one of the creators made a type of fail safe where a code or signal could corrupt/disable every one of those guns. But otherwise, the technology exists.

 

[Suikoguy]

The mental health systems in other Western countries aren't better. It's just a lot harder for violent people to get a hold of guns.

Yep.

Supply, Demand, and Risk

Reduced Supply increases Black Market Prices.
Increased Risk increases Black Market Prices.

Australia's black market gun prices skyrocketed.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

A lot of laws allow for a certain amount of risk. It's always tragic, but you're not going to get anywhere with an argument like that. What I want to see is proposed laws that would actually have an impact while acknowledging people's existing rights. Crap like "ban teh assault weapons!" is purely political. What about our mental health system? What about the ease of access to guns? That's what we need to be talking about, not some pipe dream about stripping 150,000,000 people of their legally owned property.

Rights can be and should be redefined (even though said right is so old it's 7 years old).

 

[Herbs]

It's scary that people believe this.

Gotta kind of feel sorry for people that afraid.

 

[Damerman]

Looks like it was someone from /r9k

i can't even begin to process this... understanding what that community is about and how it lead to this... this is all so fucked.

 

[dave is ok]

KATU stated OSP has reduced the number to 7-10.

 

[anaron]

It is insane. Things are starting to feel like they are reaching a boiling point in this country. I have no idea why the number of mass shootings is so high in the last handful of years, but its scary.

That said, I want to be able to own a gun for a few important reasons:

- When shit gets bad and we have riots because there is not enough food or water, I want a way to protect my family. When you have pissed off looters at the door, a baseball bat isn't going to be enough. Prowlers in the night don't concern me as much as a state of emergency where the general public is rattled and partially out of control. Things like the drought in California this year have me a little scared to be honest. Imagine if that's just the tip of the iceberg, how bad can things get?

- The government may need to be challenged one day. I don't see me owning a handgun being the thing that turns the tide and "wins us our freedoms back!" but I don't want to be helpless if things ever take an ugly turn. I realize I'm vastly underpowered but I don't want to be completely helpless.

- I want to be able to hunt for food someday. I think its a valuable life skill and its something I would like to be able to get some experience with. So far I don't, but I'm looking to change that.

Shootings are awful, awful business. I don't know what to do other than tighten up security in public places somehow or at least pass some laws to make the acquisition of a gun a more carefully examined process, but I sure as hell don't want them banned altogether. I believe that genie is out of the bottle and there's no way to collect all the guns out there.



Thank you. There are so many decent people out there who own guns and that is never talked about. Gun owners just get stereotyped as loud-mouthed republican a-holes who drive trucks and have a beef with homosexuals. Its like saying all videogamers are overweight, cheeto-scarfing, mtn dew chugging, zit-faced introverts. If that image can change, I think the image of a gun owner should as well.

you seem like a very adjusted person.

 

[CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls]

I don't know much about guns, but is there technology being developed so that each gun can be associated with it's owner?

some kind of finger print safety switch, or anything like it?

Highly doubtful and far too costly in the long run. No way gun companies implement that as standard.

There's really two things that can reduce the frequency of events like these:

1. More stringent laws for gun ownership and tighter procedures for procuring a permit. It takes me two documents and one week to go from no permit to owning a handgun. That needs to change. Ban gun and knife shows as well. Major loophole when it comes to attaining a firearm.

2. Stringent background checks and health/mental evaluations for every potential gun owner. If I have to piss in a cup to get a job, the least someone can do is sit through a mental status exam to obtain a gun permit.

 

[GovtPlates]

I'm mostly taking online classes for my degree partly out of fear of shootings, and I wish that decision still seemed paranoid.

Don't conservatives usually put the blame on mental illness? Why don't they actually try to do something dealing with that rather than nothing at all?

 

[De-mon]

:/

 

[Perfect Blue]

- When shit gets bad and we have riots because there is not enough food or water, I want a way to protect my family. When you have pissed off looters at the door, a baseball bat isn't going to be enough. Prowlers in the night don't concern me as much as a state of emergency where the general public is rattled and partially out of control. Things like the drought in California this year have me a little scared to be honest. Imagine if that's just the tip of the iceberg, how bad can things get?

- The government may need to be challenged one day. I don't see me owning a handgun being the thing that turns the tide and "wins us our freedoms back!" but I don't want to be helpless if things ever take an ugly turn. I realize I'm vastly underpowered but I don't want to be completely helpless.

Poe's Law?

 

[RumblingRosco]

It is insane. Things are starting to feel like they are reaching a boiling point in this country. I have no idea why the number of mass shootings is so high in the last handful of years, but its scary.

That said, I want to be able to own a gun for a few important reasons:

- When shit gets bad and we have riots because there is not enough food or water, I want a way to protect my family. When you have pissed off looters at the door, a baseball bat isn't going to be enough. Prowlers in the night don't concern me as much as a state of emergency where the general public is rattled and partially out of control. Things like the drought in California this year have me a little scared to be honest. Imagine if that's just the tip of the iceberg, how bad can things get?

- The government may need to be challenged one day. I don't see me owning a handgun being the thing that turns the tide and "wins us our freedoms back!" but I don't want to be helpless if things ever take an ugly turn. I realize I'm vastly underpowered but I don't want to be completely helpless.

- I want to be able to hunt for food someday. I think its a valuable life skill and its something I would like to be able to get some experience with. So far I don't, but I'm looking to change that.

Shootings are awful, awful business. I don't know what to do other than tighten up security in public places somehow or at least pass some laws to make the acquisition of a gun a more carefully examined process, but I sure as hell don't want them banned altogether. I believe that genie is out of the bottle and there's no way to collect all the guns out there.



Thank you. There are so many decent people out there who own guns and that is never talked about. Gun owners just get stereotyped as loud-mouthed republican a-holes who drive trucks and have a beef with homosexuals. Its like saying all videogamers are overweight, cheeto-scarfing, mtn dew chugging, zit-faced introverts. If that image can change, I think the image of a gun owner should as well.

So basically you're OK with allowing easy access to guns, which sacrifices many lives in the present, on the off-chance that your gun might help you survive in an essentially fictional future? Seems legit.

 

[BBboy20]

I think I'm going to be sick.

How the fuck can we keep letting this happen?

Because we are expendable and don't give a fuck about each other unless we get killed by bombs.

 

[Veritigo_X]

- The government may need to be challenged one day. I don't see me owning a handgun being the thing that turns the tide and "wins us our freedoms back!" but I don't want to be helpless if things ever take an ugly turn. I realize I'm vastly underpowered but I don't want to be completely helpless.

The fact that there's a good portion of the country that is thinking this as well is literally insane.

 

[moggio]

It is insane. Things are starting to feel like they are reaching a boiling point in this country. I have no idea why the number of mass shootings is so high in the last handful of years, but its scary.

That said, I want to be able to own a gun for a few important reasons:

- When shit gets bad and we have riots because there is not enough food or water, I want a way to protect my family. When you have pissed off looters at the door, a baseball bat isn't going to be enough. Prowlers in the night don't concern me as much as a state of emergency where the general public is rattled and partially out of control. Things like the drought in California this year have me a little scared to be honest. Imagine if that's just the tip of the iceberg, how bad can things get?

- The government may need to be challenged one day. I don't see me owning a handgun being the thing that turns the tide and "wins us our freedoms back!" but I don't want to be helpless if things ever take an ugly turn. I realize I'm vastly underpowered but I don't want to be completely helpless.

- I want to be able to hunt for food someday. I think its a valuable life skill and its something I would like to be able to get some experience with. So far I don't, but I'm looking to change that.

Shootings are awful, awful business. I don't know what to do other than tighten up security in public places somehow or at least pass some laws to make the acquisition of a gun a more carefully examined process, but I sure as hell don't want them banned altogether. I believe that genie is out of the bottle and there's no way to collect all the guns out there.

It's so great that a well-adjusted person like yourself can own as many guns as he wants.

*slowly backs away*

 

[Damerman]

Yup, but I think it died it in the water because if you get injured nobody else can use it. And supposedly one of the creators made a type of fail safe where a code or signal could corrupt/disable every one of those guns. But otherwise, the technology exists.

this is the best avenue for compromise i think... how has it not gone further?

do you have a name for the technology or a source where i can read about it?

EDIT: nvm, someone posted something.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

It is insane. Things are starting to feel like they are reaching a boiling point in this country. I have no idea why the number of mass shootings is so high in the last handful of years, but its scary.

That said, I want to be able to own a gun for a few important reasons:

- When shit gets bad and we have riots because there is not enough food or water, I want a way to protect my family. When you have pissed off looters at the door, a baseball bat isn't going to be enough. Prowlers in the night don't concern me as much as a state of emergency where the general public is rattled and partially out of control. Things like the drought in California this year have me a little scared to be honest. Imagine if that's just the tip of the iceberg, how bad can things get?

- The government may need to be challenged one day. I don't see me owning a handgun being the thing that turns the tide and "wins us our freedoms back!" but I don't want to be helpless if things ever take an ugly turn. I realize I'm vastly underpowered but I don't want to be completely helpless.

- I want to be able to hunt for food someday. I think its a valuable life skill and its something I would like to be able to get some experience with. So far I don't, but I'm looking to change that.

Shootings are awful, awful business. I don't know what to do other than tighten up security in public places somehow or at least pass some laws to make the acquisition of a gun a more carefully examined process, but I sure as hell don't want them banned altogether. I believe that genie is out of the bottle and there's no way to collect all the guns out there.



Thank you. There are so many decent people out there who own guns and that is never talked about. Gun owners just get stereotyped as loud-mouthed republican a-holes who drive trucks and have a beef with homosexuals. Its like saying all videogamers are overweight, cheeto-scarfing, mtn dew chugging, zit-faced introverts. If that image can change, I think the image of a gun owner should as well.

So we need to keep having people die because of your fears of a riot and government suppression.

 

[DECK'ARD]

It is insane. Things are starting to feel like they are reaching a boiling point in this country. I have no idea why the number of mass shootings is so high in the last handful of years, but its scary.

That said, I want to be able to own a gun for a few important reasons:

- When shit gets bad and we have riots because there is not enough food or water, I want a way to protect my family. When you have pissed off looters at the door, a baseball bat isn't going to be enough. Prowlers in the night don't concern me as much as a state of emergency where the general public is rattled and partially out of control. Things like the drought in California this year have me a little scared to be honest. Imagine if that's just the tip of the iceberg, how bad can things get?

- The government may need to be challenged one day. I don't see me owning a handgun being the thing that turns the tide and "wins us our freedoms back!" but I don't want to be helpless if things ever take an ugly turn. I realize I'm vastly underpowered but I don't want to be completely helpless.

- I want to be able to hunt for food someday. I think its a valuable life skill and its something I would like to be able to get some experience with. So far I don't, but I'm looking to change that.

Shootings are awful, awful business. I don't know what to do other than tighten up security in public places somehow or at least pass some laws to make the acquisition of a gun a more carefully examined process, but I sure as hell don't want them banned altogether. I believe that genie is out of the bottle and there's no way to collect all the guns out there.



Thank you. There are so many decent people out there who own guns and that is never talked about. Gun owners just get stereotyped as loud-mouthed republican a-holes who drive trucks and have a beef with homosexuals. Its like saying all videogamers are overweight, cheeto-scarfing, mtn dew chugging, zit-faced introverts. If that image can change, I think the image of a gun owner should as well.

You sound like a lunatic.

 

[Gorger]

To be fair there's really nothing the police could do, and besides which police department would you report it to? He just says the northwest are you really gonna contact every police department from SF to Seattle to tell them that some guy on 4chan made a threat?

Well I understand, but I would have forwarded it to the authorities or tried to do something, maybe they could have tracked the IP and found a better location of the threat. I don't dwell on 4chan so I don't fully understand the depravity of the site, but it can't be good if threats of school shootings is considered the norm. The replies he got was absolutely disgusting.

 

[Ovid]

Looks like it was someone from /r9k

Can someone explain to me why this wasn't reported?

 

[dankir]

And of course nothing will change, why would it blame it on mental illness but never do anything about gun violence...comical at this point to be honest. Fuck your 2nd amendment Americans!

 

[Herbs]

you seem like a very adjusted person.

I guess maybe it is more of a mental issue with some owners...

 

[Ensirius]

i can't even begin to process this... understanding what that community is about and how it lead to this... this is all so fucked.

4Chan is disgusting, full of hateful, depressed loosers.

That said, thousands of threads like that come up like that, so it is impossible to report on every single post on the site.

 

[Arkeband]

Thank you. There are so many decent people out there who own guns and that is never talked about. Gun owners just get stereotyped as loud-mouthed republican a-holes who drive trucks and have a beef with homosexuals. Its like saying all videogamers are overweight, cheeto-scarfing, mtn dew chugging, zit-faced introverts. If that image can change, I think the image of a gun owner should as well.

It's a good thing video gamers can't mow down people at a ratio of 15 to 1 using their wii-motes, then.

Look, you can have as many "good" gun owners as you can dream up, but it only takes a small handful to kill all of you and the rest of us, so unless you're willing to self-examine how your freedoms make everyone else less safe, this argument is silly.

Also, you are helpless when it comes to the government, they don't even have to be physically present to wipe you out, your gun is nothing but a comfort object.

 

[BioHazard]

Looks like it was at 1 am.

oh whoops, my mistake

 

[Future PhaZe]

curious as to what peoples solution for gun control is--most shooters have no priors that would prevent them from obtaining a firearm

not against gun control at all, just wondering what the solution is

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

:/

"Hey when you're not too busy running from gunfire, can you give us a quick call? Thx "

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

fucking hell.


i feel sick.

 

[CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls]

:/

Fucking vultures.

 

[mackattk]

:/

Fucking hell.

Hey, I know you are in the middle of getting shot at and all, but can you follow me on Twitter so I can get a scoop on a story while sitting safely behind my desk? I could use an extra few bucks. Thanks!!!

 

[Sephzilla]

Can someone explain to me why this wasn't reported?

Police: "What's the emergency"

You: "Someone on 4chan said to not go to school in the Northewest tomorrow"

Police: "..."

 

[Opto]

It's scary that people believe this.

Handgun or assault rifle, that's not going to stop a roaming band of raiders.
Fight against the government? They have predator drones, artillery, and armored vehicles.

 

[Tenebrous]

Can someone explain to me why this wasn't reported?

Some people just want to watch the world burn, I guess.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

- The government may need to be challenged one day. I don't see me owning a handgun being the thing that turns the tide and "wins us our freedoms back!" but I don't want to be helpless if things ever take an ugly turn. I realize I'm vastly underpowered but I don't want to be completely helpless.

lol if the army doesn't side with whatever armed uprising you're imagining you're fucked and no handgun or rifle or shotgun is going to help you.

 

[Damerman]

Even if that tech comes what is it gonna do for the millions of guns already in circulation?

any gun without the technology is banned and considered contraband, if you are caught with one, serious repercussions.

Times have changed, laws need to reflect that.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Can someone explain to me why this wasn't reported?

From the information given who exactly would you report it to?

 

[Piggus]

Rights can be and should be redefined (even though said right is so old it's 7 years old).

Easier said than done when you're talking about the first ten amendments.