President Obama Is Pissed (Oregon Shooting Press Conference)
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Dude, multiple people have explained this to you already. Did you really not read any of the replies on the last page?
Any Questions
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I shouldn't laugh but I did
Yep. Someone needs to update the thisisneogaf gif to read "America" at the very end instead.
evilromero
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Goddamn, the primitive gossip part of my brain always leads me to read the comments on the CNN and MSNBC shooting statistics they posted in response to the president's plea.
Why do I do that? They are a minority of the population that are THIS unreasonable, right? Or are we looking at a huge majority mob of people just itching for the right circumstance?
Why do I do that? They are a minority of the population that are THIS unreasonable, right? Or are we looking at a huge majority mob of people just itching for the right circumstance?
evilromero
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I would guess it's large, but is it really roughly 40% that are this outspoken? I guess that number is coming from those against additional gun control laws?
EatinOlives
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Just showed up in my facebook feed. These comments... damn..
Small sample:
And there are over 4,000 of them.
Look at how absolutely none of them provide any kind of compelling argument. It's all ad hominem and fear mongering. Every single one. Not a single post in that screenshot that isn't meaningless shit flinging.
No, here's the scary thing; these insane, unreasonable people? They have a LOT of power. They have a lot of lobbyists with money and power backing their agenda.
These are the people who SHUT DOWN talks and laws after Sandy Hook to address gun violence and simply introduce universal background checks. These are the people who elect leaders based only on how much they hate Obama and gun control.
And there are enough of them out there to keep the rest of us from making any progress whatsoever.
Well who the fuck knows. Like half the country doesn't even vote.
minor effort
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An extended tantrum against a changing world.
Woah fuck it. Who would say something like that?!
Transistor
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Saw this when I logged into Facebook:
Sigh....
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Saw this when I logged into Facebook:
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Is that a really bad drawing of a condom?
Smh. They care more about their guns than the innocent blood spilled, who are they kidding.Saw this when I logged into Facebook:
Sigh....
Veritigo_X
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Saw this when I logged into Facebook:
Sigh....
Which organization has a dick on their flag?
Actually, B-Dubs got it right. It even has the reservoir tip.
Saw this when I logged into Facebook:
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Is that a pepper mill?
I don't see any potential in your candidates to give a speech this eloquent and heartfelt at this level
I can only imagine what it is like to live in Obamas shoes, wanting to do something but having a large populace shitting on you personally even for saying something as balanced as this press conference.
evilromero
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I know it's outlandish to suggest as much, but does anyone else see there being such a dramatic political shift between groups that we could feasibly see a "silent" civil war? Meaning, a push to literally divide the country up due to such issues that the right are simply unwilling to compromise on? Or will the GOP simply need to see that things are getting worse and that they need to adjust their rhetoric and messaging to "ease" their fiery constituents to the center a bit more?
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Saw this when I logged into Facebook:
Sigh....
I want a president who never gets political when a tragedy happens.
A mass shooting? No politics, no discussion about how to prevent future ones. Just pray.
A terrorist attack? No politics, no discussion about how to prevent future ones. Just pray.
A natural disaster? No politics, no discussion about how to reduce loss during future ones. Just pray.
Transistor
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Ha! The flag has gotten so abused over the years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it#Texas_Revolution
Garrett 2U
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That portion when he talks about how 'routine' this has become is very powerful.
We need to do something to break that.
We need to do something to break that.
Original version still has the reservoir tip. Condom flag confirmed.
Transistor
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You could see it in his face that he's so tired of this shit, but he knows he's so powerless to do anything about it.
If the Republican base continues to lose presidential elections, it's basically a guarantee that one of their cult members will make an offhanded comment that will be "TELLIN' IT LIKE IT IZ!" while suggesting if the country is so split they should just secede and form a Republic of America and all the evil democrats can live in the People's Democracy of America.
Relentless 757
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We need gun legislation, Obama is right. But even he sees the sad reality, and that is that this out of his control.
In my opinion background checks aren't enough, there needs to be more, like a complete thorough psychological check or an outright ban. Fact of the matter is, the people who commit these mass shootings probably never broke the law prior to that incident, or at least were never caught doing so. Nothing is stopping those like that from essentially going into a store, buying an assault rifle, and then preceding into a murderous rampage.
Psych evaluations probably aren't enough to be honest, nothing is stopping a person from lying their way through one. An outright ban is what I believe would stop these shootings from happening. Unfortunately this is an impossibility it seems.
*Sigh* The 2nd amendment was a mistake.
In my opinion background checks aren't enough, there needs to be more, like a complete thorough psychological check or an outright ban. Fact of the matter is, the people who commit these mass shootings probably never broke the law prior to that incident, or at least were never caught doing so. Nothing is stopping those like that from essentially going into a store, buying an assault rifle, and then preceding into a murderous rampage.
Psych evaluations probably aren't enough to be honest, nothing is stopping a person from lying their way through one. An outright ban is what I believe would stop these shootings from happening. Unfortunately this is an impossibility it seems.
*Sigh* The 2nd amendment was a mistake.
Pai Pai Master
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It wasn't a mistake, it made perfect sense in those times.
What is a mistake, is pretending that the constitution and bill of rights are infallible and should not be updated to meet our changing times. A document created 200 gears ago is not fit to control every aspect of our lives today.
"The feeling around here is that everyone who drives a small car is a liberal"
Ugh.
Bingo but yet we have those ignorant people out there that calls him Dictator Obama, if he was a dictator everything he wanted would be done, no president has that kinda power
massivekettle
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There's one point I agree with, though, is the fact that it was quite despicable of Obama to politicize the issue (yet again). It's just going to make people that were on the fence even more annoyed at his attempt to bring forth gun control/revoking the second amendment.
The Artisan
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seen this posted on facebook.
also, i don't know how reliable this is but apparently isis is claiming responsibility in the shooting
http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris...s-pictures-photos-attack-influence-terrorism/
also, i don't know how reliable this is but apparently isis is claiming responsibility in the shooting
http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris...s-pictures-photos-attack-influence-terrorism/
peanutbutterlatte
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You're right. Should have kept his mouth shut until more kindergarteners get mowed down with assault rifles.
He's so despicable.
How dare he do what most people want him to do.
seen this posted on facebook.
also, i don't know how reliable this is but apparently isis is claiming responsibility in the shooting
http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris...s-pictures-photos-attack-influence-terrorism/
The world is filled with utter morons.
Then when is the right time to talk about solutions? We have one of these a month, some times once a week. It's never going to be the perfect time, we should have fixed these issues years ago but it wasn't the right time then either.
Transistor
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He even said it though, that he knows people are gonna call him out for that. He knows he's politicizing it, and it needs to happen, otherwise change is never going to come (even though I don't think it's ever coming anyways)
massivekettle
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx
As long as Americans are that divided on the issue, and given all the shenanigans in Washington, it will take a generation or two before anything will happen.
The only thing Obama is doing here is harming the Democrats' prospects for 2016.
peanutbutterlatte
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Also if you tamely hush your views in the name of being "appropriate" or "respectful" to the dead, then you're as pathetic as they come, sorry. I don't know how you're unable to process that this insane "grieiving period", not in terms of paying tribute to those lost, but in terms of doing absolutely fucking nothing about gun control literally means hundreds more will die.
The idea that calling for gun control after months of daily mass shootings can be considered politicizing a situation is absurd and sad.
DrForester
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When the hell should he talk about it?
And you're not really suggesting that Obama wants to revoke the Second Amendment, are you?
Bobby Roberts
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Wouldn't speaking or making decisions on public speech based primarily on reasoning such as that be a more pertinent, applicable example of "politicizing" a situation?
You seem to be arguing that he basically needed to not say the things he needed to say for Washington-insider political purposes, as opposed to whatever positive benefits they might promote outside that particular bubble.
Pai Pai Master
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I don't give a shit if it annoys some sensitive paranoid gun nuts. It is a political issue that we cannot make the necessary changes to make it harder for violent, angry people to obtain weapons to carry out their terrorist acts.
And he is not attempting to revoke the second amendment. Apparently you don't know wtf you're talking about, like most people who don't seem to want to do anything about this.
brochiller
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I feel like those who don't want restrictions on gun control just use this as an excuse not to talk about things.
The Technomancer
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I mean, I know everyone's jumping on you but
We're averaging more than one mass shooting a day
When could he talk about it that wouldn't be "politicizing"?
peanutbutterlatte
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If Obama and other Democratic politicians live in fear of ever saying anything sane and controversial simply because they won't get elected next time if they do wrong, literally nothing will ever change.
Mat-triX
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Reading that CNN article about how Obama had to address several shootings during his two terms makes me worried that people are going to associate Obama's presidency to the shootings:
"We've had all these shootings when Obama is president, so if he's gone, no more shootings; problem solved. Guns don't kill people...OBAMA kills people."
"We've had all these shootings when Obama is president, so if he's gone, no more shootings; problem solved. Guns don't kill people...OBAMA kills people."
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Honestly, that is such a defeatist suggestion. Don't speak out on the issue in even relatively measured tones so that you don't cause any harm to Democratic prospects in the next election?
If Democrats have to remain that muzzled, why even vote at all?
What you're suggesting is intentional political cowardice from Obama and the rest of the Democratic party.
Transistor
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So we should endure a generation or two of mass killings before anything gets done?
The Artisan
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is this in response to the meme or the article?
nope, now's the only time to talk about it. Whast are you gonna do? wait until there are no shootings? "he wants to take our guns for no reason" fuck em they were never going to be on board anyways.
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