Dash_Riprock
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According to an early draft of RotJ, his name was supposed to be Cos Dashit.
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According to an early draft of RotJ, his name was supposed to be Cos Dashit.
Dash_Riprock
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...I'm done.
Yeah my girl let me jatz on her chest the other day. Love me some jatzing.
They're free to do that as they please, no issues with it - but the moment it's brought up in discussion of the films as if filmmakers should care about the generally overexplaining EU content, which ruins the mystery and wonder of the universe with childishly detailed backstory, it's gone too far.
googleplex
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Was actually pretty good and a little ahead of its time for being an 80's cartoon.
Come to my room for Netflix and Jizz?
They should do that in star wars rebels season 2
Does Darth Maul have a canon ending to his story at this point? Last I recall he was getting shocked by Sidious who said he had plans for him, but they never came back to that during Clone Wars.
donkey show
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"Oops I zapped my mind into a clone" is not in any way an interesting story or good end to Palpatine, especially not in comparison to his long and careful plan being upended by the redemption of his own apprentice, breaking the cycle of the Sith by his betrayal being rooted in love rather than selfishness. The Dark Empire story has nothing like that. The end of the Emperor in RotJ has five movies of buildup behind it. The Dark Empire finale is just a rehash of the "Skywalkers really love their family" thing that was already used to defeat Palpatine in the film.
Okay, are you trolling now? You can't possibly believe this is a valid justification for undermining the climax of the entire Star Wars Saga.
Shit like this is why I'm glad the EU is gone.
This is from an early outline of the original movie, not RotJ, but he was indeed named that because he "caused all the shit to happen."
Darth Maul Son of Dathomir has him escaping a separatist prison and seeking help from Mother Talzin, it ends with the following revelations
Maul is the son of Talzin, Sidious kidnapped him while working with her
Grievous slaughters most of Mauls troops on Sidious' command
Sidious And Dooku corner Talzin in a force lightning/magick fight, Grievous arrives and walks through the lightning and magic gets to her, and stabs her with his sabers
Maul escapes wounded, and Sidious says he's no longer a concern to him, as he has been broken to the core
Grievous slaughters most of Mauls troops on Sidious' command
Sidious And Dooku corner Talzin in a force lightning/magick fight, Grievous arrives and walks through the lightning and magic gets to her, and stabs her with his sabers
Maul escapes wounded, and Sidious says he's no longer a concern to him, as he has been broken to the core
this is all canon, but the rest of his life hasn't been explored.
Hell probably be offed by Vader in a later rebels season
Hey you, you leave Corran Horn alone!
Tritroid
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Honestly, with all the shit that came out of the EU (mostly from Kevin J. Anderson), I feel the single-best character introduction was Mara Jade.
Timothy Zahn is a master at sci-fi, and he handled the Thrawn trilogy AND Mara's characterization beautifully. Who can forget Mara's climactic scene where she kneels before C'baoth, just as he prophesized the entire trilogy, and then stabs him in the gut with her saber. Amazing stuff.
She's truly the best character in the EU, and I'd be a little more pissed with the canonical-wipe, if the retarded LotF series didn't SENSELESSLY kill her off.
Timothy Zahn is a master at sci-fi, and he handled the Thrawn trilogy AND Mara's characterization beautifully. Who can forget Mara's climactic scene where she kneels before C'baoth, just as he prophesized the entire trilogy, and then stabs him in the gut with her saber. Amazing stuff.
She's truly the best character in the EU, and I'd be a little more pissed with the canonical-wipe, if the retarded LotF series didn't SENSELESSLY kill her off.
Liamario
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Which weren't really considered canon due to massive plot inconsistencies ;-p
Ah yes, the canon tier stuff.
I remember going to theforce.net to discuss the Clone Wars Maul saga and fans were losing their shit with that.
When I saw something along the lines of "Don't worry guys, this is probably is like...G tier canon, we can easily ignore it, but can you imagine if this was C tier? Man that would totally contradict this B tier stuff"
That was it, too much just to much stupid, I was grateful when Lucasfilm destroyed that Crap from orbit
I remember going to theforce.net to discuss the Clone Wars Maul saga and fans were losing their shit with that.
When I saw something along the lines of "Don't worry guys, this is probably is like...G tier canon, we can easily ignore it, but can you imagine if this was C tier? Man that would totally contradict this B tier stuff"
That was it, too much just to much stupid, I was grateful when Lucasfilm destroyed that Crap from orbit
DeaconKnowledge
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DeaconKnowledge
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It's a character called Jaxxon from Marvel's original comic run:
Boo. Oh well.
Jack Random
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Skippy was from Tales, which was meant to be fairly silly/non-canonical fun
L.B. Jeffries
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Because one day the folks over at Sienar Fleet Systems just said fuck it, we're doing everything. Shields, missiles, 6 lasers, a tractor beam that can tug a Star Destroyer, hyperdrive, and engines that are faster than anything else in the universe.
The biggest absurdity isn't even the ship itself, it's the pages and pages devoted to explaining why the Empire didn't build millions of them and conquer the galaxy.
Because one day the folks over at Sienar Fleet Systems just said fuck it, we're doing everything. Shields, missiles, 6 lasers, a tractor beam that can tug a Star Destroyer, hyperdrive, and engines that are faster than anything else in the universe.
The biggest absurdity isn't even the ship itself, it's the pages and pages devoted to explaining why the Empire didn't build millions of them and conquer the galaxy.
This ship design is like the issue I have with light sabers. Less is more.
Double light sabers! Rotating light sabers! Everyone gets to dual-wield light sabers!
It just cheapens everything when you overdo it.
AbsolutBro
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Massive spoilers for SW EU stuff, obviously:
The Vong are introduced, like I said, to be the ultimate foil to the Jedi. When you have a protagonist that can choke you with his brain, make you do what he wants or just generally fuck your shit up without picking up a finger, how do you combat that?
The Yuuzhan Vong are introduced as completely dead in the Force, which is not unheard of entirely. Ysalamir can hide themselves, but are still actually present in the Force. The Vong, supposedly, are not. Why? We are led to believe it's because their Force Sensitive home planet burned it out of them following a protracted war.
One thing to keep in mind: Every thing that the Vong uses is living. Their armor? A species of crab that grows like a symbiote over their body. Their staff weapons? Actually snakes that go completely rigid, are immune to light sabers, and spit poison. Their cybernetic prosthesis? Actually living grafts from other organisms. Their SHIPS? Living creatures. They even have giant lizard war mounts. All of these things are also immune to the Force. Immune. They can't be sensed, they can't be picked up, they can't be mind controlled. So apparently, their Force Sensitive planet also burned the force out of everything that they create, conquer or do.
Only as we come to find out in the final confrontation, they aren't actually dead in the Force. They can't touch it anymore, the same way that non Force Sensitives can't touch it, but they should be showing up at least right? In fact, there is one guy who still has a connection to the Force: the Supreme Warlord's jester. The entire 4 years of the Yuzzhan Vong war, this one guy has been cloaking every single living thing in the Vong's empire from the Jedi. This one guy has been shielding them from mind control, from being lifted or moved, from Force Lightning, from everything. This one guy has been able to hide every Vong, every ship, every mount, every weapon, every prosthetic, every crab armor, every everything, everywhere.
Essentially, the entire "foil" aspect of the Vong was all a lie perpetrated by the crazy jester of a supreme warlord that he was mind controlling (proving that Vong can be touched by the Force). Only after the jester's death, the Vong remain immune to the Force. Either because writers can't get their shit together, or because the jester's power carries on after death.
The Yuuzhan Vong are introduced as completely dead in the Force, which is not unheard of entirely. Ysalamir can hide themselves, but are still actually present in the Force. The Vong, supposedly, are not. Why? We are led to believe it's because their Force Sensitive home planet burned it out of them following a protracted war.
One thing to keep in mind: Every thing that the Vong uses is living. Their armor? A species of crab that grows like a symbiote over their body. Their staff weapons? Actually snakes that go completely rigid, are immune to light sabers, and spit poison. Their cybernetic prosthesis? Actually living grafts from other organisms. Their SHIPS? Living creatures. They even have giant lizard war mounts. All of these things are also immune to the Force. Immune. They can't be sensed, they can't be picked up, they can't be mind controlled. So apparently, their Force Sensitive planet also burned the force out of everything that they create, conquer or do.
Only as we come to find out in the final confrontation, they aren't actually dead in the Force. They can't touch it anymore, the same way that non Force Sensitives can't touch it, but they should be showing up at least right? In fact, there is one guy who still has a connection to the Force: the Supreme Warlord's jester. The entire 4 years of the Yuzzhan Vong war, this one guy has been cloaking every single living thing in the Vong's empire from the Jedi. This one guy has been shielding them from mind control, from being lifted or moved, from Force Lightning, from everything. This one guy has been able to hide every Vong, every ship, every mount, every weapon, every prosthetic, every crab armor, every everything, everywhere.
Essentially, the entire "foil" aspect of the Vong was all a lie perpetrated by the crazy jester of a supreme warlord that he was mind controlling (proving that Vong can be touched by the Force). Only after the jester's death, the Vong remain immune to the Force. Either because writers can't get their shit together, or because the jester's power carries on after death.
So there you go. Vong in a
AbsolutBro
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Given the events at the end of The Clone Wars, it's not entirely out there. I look forward to seeing a few old friends in Rebels...
Platinum, please make a Star Wars game.
Oh god, it would be like Force Unleashed but actually good
Its not that the idea is bad, I love the rebels angle where only a handful of Clones were spared.
but the EU has them refusing en masse, just a flat out "Nah, Jedis are Cool, Fuck you", no reason beyond that
The new canon has 5555 going through that whole ordeal just to give information to save maybe the 3 or 4 Clones who were willing to believe him, not hundreds
PeskyToaster
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You guys sent me down a dark path reading Wookiepedia. Anyone remember the Galactic Battlegrounds game? I loved that as a kid. Played it a ton
There's a lot of amazing posts in this thread, but this may be the best.
I remember reading a Star Wars novel back in the 90s and the main villain was a gelatinous blob that could use the force and would absorb other creatures. This creature couldn't move, however it was kept in some public fountain and folks would willingly dive right in.
What the shit was that? I think the book was called The Crystal Star, but I could be misremembering.
What the shit was that? I think the book was called The Crystal Star, but I could be misremembering.
Hexa
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That show was amazing.
Tal Shiar Agent
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This thread reminds me how happy I am that the EU is dead.
Jizz-box
"You sound like a festerin' jizz-box. I got a festerin' jizz-box right over there in that corner."
―The assistant manager of the Wookiee's Codpiece
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz-box
"You sound like a festerin' jizz-box. I got a festerin' jizz-box right over there in that corner."
―The assistant manager of the Wookiee's Codpiece
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz-box
Darth Maul came back to life with robot legs... And got killed by Uncle Owen with a shotgun.
Fucking what? Fucking hell. What is this shit? Back then I always saw these Star Wars books... are they expanded universe? Holy shit this is way worse than some Anime.
spookyfish
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Right.
They just happened to put a ship that looks just like the Outrider from Shadows of the Empire -- which enjoyed a huge, multimedia push from Lucasfilm, Lucasarts, Lucaspizza, Lucastoiletpaper and everything else -- in the special edition of Star Wars, which came out right after Shadows of the Empire.
Okay. Sure.
Seductivpancakes
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I seriously doubt any new canon material Disney produces will be any better, but time will tell.
Well aside from the new movie and that rogue squadron spin off, I think those two have great potential.
Well aside from the new movie and that rogue squadron spin off, I think those two have great potential.
Except he's right.
Lucas adopted the name Coruscant from the EU, that doesn't make anything in a book mentioning the planet by name canon, just the planet
Clone Wars have a clone with an armor from the Old Republic Commando games, that makes the armor canon, not the story in those games
Maul with robot legs is canon as seen in the clone Wars, him being killed by uncle Owen with a shotgun is not
Plagueis is mentioned in RotS, that makes a character named Plagueis canon, but not the entire story in the Book.
We can be here all night.
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