• Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!

Street Fighter V Roster Discussion |Thread 2| Deal with it & place your hope for DLC

It'd probably be like Jill & Shuna to where they're available the month after launch.

Which is totally cool. No doubt people are gonna play the hell out of the game when it launches and will be sitting on stacks of fight money to spend on DLC characters. But including day one DLC exclusively with collector's editions? That's some bull.
 
You know it's high time we saw the extra areas in the stages already-
featured-nash.jpg


Exactly. I can make guesses as to what popular characters will be in the game eventually too, doesn't mean I'm in the know. Siliconera's leak had 4 popular characters in it and only 2 were right. Pretty much every fake leak list out there had Karin Mika Urien and Alex in it, hell people were straight up calling out Siliconera's info as being bullshit specially because of that.

Reading into what Siliconera hasn't said is giving them credibility they didn't earn. It's just like the people trying to convince themselves that the game will have more than 16 characters at launch and that one list with 19 characters in it was right all along.

Alright fine they were half right.
 
Exactly. I can make guesses as to what popular characters will be in the game eventually too, doesn't mean I'm in the know. Siliconera's leak had 4 popular characters in it and only 2 were right. Pretty much every fake leak list out there had Karin Mika Urien and Alex in it, hell people were straight up calling out Siliconera's info as being bullshit specially because of that.

Reading into what Siliconera hasn't said is giving them credibility they didn't earn. It's just like the people trying to convince themselves that the game will have more than 16 characters at launch and that one list with 19 characters in it was right all along.

Except that Siliconera has been pretty on point with leaks before anything involving Street Fighter 5. The entire point is that they HAVE earned credibility, and Alex and Urien being very early DLC characters would be perfectly in line with their leak. It could very well be that their information is wrong, but them not being in the exact starting 16 isn't a death knell to their credibility.
 
I'm putting stock into Siliconera sources because they are one of the few journalististic websites that we have that put themselves out there with this info. The Alex/Urien and R.Mika/Karin articles all came around E3, a time where Capcom was likely finalizing their plans for what the intinal roster and early DLC plans are.

But If they are wrong, then they are wrong and they will suffer the price in reputation and in their integrity.
 
Except that Siliconera has been pretty on point with leaks before anything involving Street Fighter 5. The entire point is that they HAVE earned credibility, and Alex and Urien being very early DLC characters would be perfectly in line with their leak. It could very well be that their information is wrong, but them not being in the exact starting 16 isn't a death knell to their credibility.
I'm not discrediting their credibility as a whole, just about this specific bit. I don't doubt that they got info from someone, just that said info was actually accurate.

We have no reason to shun them, but we have no reason to think that their SF info is good either.
 
I'm putting stock into Siliconera sources because they are one of the few journalististic websites that we have that put themselves out there with this info. The Alex/Urien and R.Mika/Karin articles all came around E3, a time where Capcom was likely finalizing their plans for what the intinal roster and early DLC plans are.

But If they are wrong, then they are wrong and they will suffer the price in reputation and in their integrity.

Both Mika/Karin and Urien/Alex leaks happened almost at the same time (a couple of hours of difference), and back then people were believing way more in the 3S leak, so I still trust this leak. They'll be early DLC, not sure if day one tho, but early
 
Agreed.

If they could limit themselves to six Street Fighter 2 characters in any initial roster from this point on that would be a nice compromise.
This. I get the appeal of familiarity, but you gotta have some fresh faces (both newcomers & characters we haven't seen in a while, mostly the former). Having just 6 World Warriors would allow for some of that familiarity to aid the game's appeal, but also for more variety to get their time in the sun.
 
Alright fine they were half right.

A lot of other "sources" were more than half right and put out more info than Siliconera did.

Except that Siliconera has been pretty on point with leaks before anything involving Street Fighter 5. The entire point is that they HAVE earned credibility, and Alex and Urien being very early DLC characters would be perfectly in line with their leak. It could very well be that their information is wrong, but them not being in the exact starting 16 isn't a death knell to their credibility.

It wouldn't be completely in line with thier leak, they said they would be included and playable and they claimed they had a source that confirmed it. If they are DLC then they are wrong.

However, I will throw out the possibility that Capcom might have changed plans.

I'm putting stock into Siliconera sources because they are one of the few journalististic websites that we have that put themselves out there with this info. The Alex/Urien and R.Mika/Karin articles all came around E3, a time where Capcom was likely finalizing their plans for what the intinal roster and early DLC plans are.

But If they are wrong, then they are wrong and they will suffer the price in reputation and in their integrity.

Unless Cacpcom put out false info the leak is wrong. There is no way what they said is completely accurate otherwise.
 
I'm not discrediting their credibility as a whole, just about this specific bit. I don't doubt that they got info from someone, just that said info was actually accurate.

We have no reason to shun them, but we have no reason to think that their SF info is good either.

But you can say that about every leak ever before the actual information comes out. Of course you don't know if something is true until it is true. All I'm saying is that given Siliconera's previous successes, it is reasonable for people to suggest that the leak could still be accurate with Alex and Urien being DLC, even if they aren't on the starting roster.

It wouldn't be completely in line with thier leak, they said they would be included and playable and they claimed they had a source that confirmed it. If they are DLC then they are wrong.

This isn't even a remotely valid argument. Your random ruleset means nothing in the face of whether or not the information they were given was accurate. The entire game of SFV is being built around a steady stream of DLC characters, the starting roster doesn't mean much at all. A DLC character is still a playable character in Street Fighter 5.
 
But you can say that about every leak ever before the actual information comes out. Of course you don't know if something is true until it is true. All I'm saying is that given Siliconera's previous successes, it is reasonable for people to suggest that the leak could still be accurate with Alex and Urien being DLC, even if they aren't on the starting roster.
I just find that way too convenient. Leaks are only leaks if they are accurate, when Siliconera leaked FF7 they were very clear that not only would the game be announced but it would be shown at e3. It's not reasonable, it's blind faith. If they were claiming Alex and Urien to be DLC they would have said so because fighting game rosters are finalized way before the characters are actually done so if Alex and Urien were DLC whoever got them the info would have known.

When I see you guys putting words on Siliconera's mouth - err fingers - to justify their info this is what I see:
200_sm5jfz.gif
 
I just find that way too convenient. Leaks are only leaks if they are accurate, when Siliconera leaked FF7 they were very clear that not only would the game be announced but it would be shown at e3. It's not reasonable, it's blind faith. If they were claiming Alex and Urien to be DLC they would have said so because fighting game rosters are finalized way before the characters are actually done so if Alex and Urien were DLC whoever got them the info would have known.

When I see you guys putting words on Siliconera's mouth - err fingers - to justify their info this is what I see:
200_sm5jfz.gif

People tend to still misinterpt Ken Bogard's leak, what'd you expect :V
 
I just find that way too convenient. Leaks are only leaks if they are accurate, when Siliconera leaked FF7 they were very clear that not only would the game be announced but it would be shown at e3. It's not reasonable, it's blind faith.

When I see you guys putting words on Siliconera's mouth - err fingers - to justify their info this is what I see:
200_sm5jfz.gif

But that argument requires Siliconera to have more information than they may have had, more information than the leakers had. You setting up rules that for the leak to be accurate it HAS to be the starting roster and not DLC doesn't actually mean anything. It is arbitrary.

The only thing that actually matters is that someone really got true information about the game and passed it along to Siliconera or not. If for example Alex is announced as the first DLC character and Urien is the unplayable boss of the game who is going to be eventual DLC, it would be completely unreasonable to say the Siliconera leak was false just because they weren't in the starting roster.

For the record, I actually don't care about either of the characters being in the game, I especially don't expect Alex to be the last old character in the starting roster, and I don't care about the Siliconera leak panning out or not. I'm just saying that the argument of "if they aren't in the starting roster the leak was wrong" is simply nonsense.
 
But that argument requires Siliconera to have more information than they may have had, more information than the leakers had. You setting up rules that for the leak to be accurate it HAS to be the starting roster and not DLC doesn't actually mean anything. It is arbitrary.

The only thing that actually matters is that someone really got true information about the game and passed it along to Siliconera or not. If for example Alex is announced as the first DLC character and Urien is the unplayable boss of the game who is going to be eventual DLC, it would be completely unreasonable to say the Siliconera leak was false just because they weren't in the starting roster.

For the record, I actually don't care about either of the characters being in the game, I especially don't expect Alex to be the last old character in the starting roster, and I don't care about the Siliconera leak panning out or not. I'm just saying that the argument of "if they aren't in the starting roster the leak was wrong" is simply nonsense.

They said they were included in the game, since when do people consider DLC to be included?

Even if they were given accurate info they relayed it in an inaccurate way.
 
This is what Siliconera had to say about Alex and Urien:
Sources have confirmed to Siliconera that Alex and Urien from Street Fighter III will be playable characters in Street Fighter V as well. Look out for the two to be announced at some point in the future.
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2015/07/0...-from-street-fighter-iii/#F0w3X8APEhY7RVOv.99
"Look out for the two to be announced at some point in the future". That does not imply DLC at all.

Sure it would be unreasonable to say the Siliconera leak was wrong if they eventually make it in the game, but at this moment you guys have zero reason other than wishful thinking to twist their words just to fit your hopes.
 
This is what Siliconera had to say about Alex and Urien:

"Look out for the two to be announced at some point in the future". That does not imply DLC at all.

Sure it would be unreasonable to say the Siliconera leak was wrong if they eventually make it in the game, but at this moment you guys have zero reason other than wishful thinking to twist their words just to fit your hopes.

doesn't say starting roster either tbf
 
This is what Siliconera had to say about Alex and Urien:

"Look out for the two to be announced at some point in the future". That does not imply DLC at all.

Sure it would be unreasonable to say the Siliconera leak was wrong if they eventually make it in the game, but at this moment you guys have zero reason other than wishful thinking to twist their words just to fit your hopes.
It implies either launch or DLC.
 
This is what Siliconera had to say about Alex and Urien:

"Look out for the two to be announced at some point in the future". That does not imply DLC at all.

It can imply them as being DLC, based on-
1- The game has 16 characters for its initial roster
2- If they're not among the initial roster, they'd be DLC
3- They can be announced for being DLC in coming weeks and months
 
This is what Siliconera had to say about Alex and Urien:

"Look out for the two to be announced at some point in the future". That does not imply DLC at all.

You are right, it doesn't imply anything at all. It is one of the most vague sentences they could have possibly written. It also does absolutely nothing to exclude them being DLC. Is your argument that DLC characters aren't going to be announced?

And that isn't even my point, my point is that they may not have even known anything about them being DLC or not. The leaker might not have either. They might have just found out that those characters were being worked on as playable characters. Do you honestly believe that Capcom is literally only working on 16 characters at the moment? And once they are done and have released the game they are then going to start getting to work on new characters?

They said they were included in the game, since when do people consider DLC to be included?

No, they didn't say that, they said that they will be playable characters. DLC characters are playable characters.

Again, and for the final time: I'm not arguing that their leak is correct, I'm only saying you people making the "if they are DLC then the leak was wrong" argument are simply not making sense
 
Ken has never trained Sean- that's a common misconception http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Sean

I see the liberal mention of Laura as his sister... was this put out officially somewhere? Or is it guesswork (likely or not) because of the last name?

I've said this before
6WW
6Returning from other games
4new ones


Perfection

But don't we have 7 WW already? [Ken, Ryu, Chun, Claw, Dictator, Cammy, Gief]
Or was this just wishful thinking by you?

It's funny because he's right there to the left I can the "F" in Zangief over there

That's what I was going to say.
The missing Gief info is because "Gief. Who cares." :lol
 
I have a leak confirming that Dhalsim and Guile will be playable in SFV at some point in the future.

Can I be Siliconera nao pls.

Also, Urien and Alex will be playable in some game at some point in the future. Or maybe not. The leak was very vague on this.
 
It can imply them as being DLC, based on-
1- The game has 16 characters for its initial roster
2- If they're not among the initial roster, they'd be DLC
3- They can be announced for being DLC in coming weeks and months
It can imply anything. Hell it could even imply they were planned for the roster but scrapped like some Vanilla SF4 characters. They might be DLC, they might never make into the roster, I don't fucking know, but until Siliconera rectifies their info it means nothing and even if Alex/Urien make it into the game eventually that won't immediatly confirm Siliconera was right all along.
 
Top Bottom